McCheese
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No, he is a well established rabble-rouser.You just want to be a rabble-rouser, don't you?
No, he is a well established rabble-rouser.You just want to be a rabble-rouser, don't you?
It's not what Brubaker wants, it's what Marvel wants
Marvel is not DC.They'll go with what Brubaker wants, I bet... They'll do WWII one-shots or a story within the comic that flashes back to when Steve was around.
Keep in mind when The Dark Knight came out, Batman was crazy and running around Gotham in a purple and yellow costume.
Considering the first movie is set in WWII, what should be in it?
Should Bucky have a costume or should he just be a normal soldier?
Should they do Cap's origin? What kind of costume should he wear?
I assume almost everyone would agree the Red Skull should be the villain, over say Kleiser. How should they explain his skull face? Is he wearing a mask or just deformed?
Also should Cap's personality be closer to the 616 or Ultimate version?
I assume that everyone here would want the final scene to be the castle seige from Ultimates 1.
Let me start by applauding the restraint you showed by not starting a thread for each one of these questions.
You just want to be a rabble-rouser, don't you?
No, he is a well established rabble-rouser.
They'll go with what Brubaker wants, I bet... They'll do WWII one-shots or a story within the comic that flashes back to when Steve was around.
Keep in mind when The Dark Knight came out, Batman was crazy and running around Gotham in a purple and yellow costume.
Marvel is not DC.
I'm not saying that something won't happen in the Cap comic, but that what Marvel wants is usually what the final say will be.
Let me start by applauding the restraint you showed by not starting a thread for each one of these questions.
In order:
Nazis.
No costume.
Yes. The Ultimates version of his WW2 costume.
Deformed by evil Nazi experiments.
And you tried to be sneaky by not ending the last one with a question mark, but yes I would like a scene similar to that siege to be the end of the movie.
It's not what Brubaker wants, it's what Marvel wants.
And it doesn't have to be in a main series. That's why they have reprints, minis, and trades coming out. Marvel specifically waited for the Hulk movie to release the WWH trades/HCs.
Straight up war epic with a slight mix of science fiction. I think everyone agrees that Millar did right. Just replace the aliens with a hard hitting arms race and Red Skull as they're answer to the supersoldier. Skull doesn't even have to come off as the leader type if they want to use him later because if they show the parallels of Steve Rogers and Johann Schmidt rising up the ranks, along with America vs. The Soviets in an arms race, you'd have a pretty decent theme running.Considering the first movie is set in WWII, what should be in it?
They should both have uncomfortable, tacky costumes that they do wear into battle for part of the film. The whole idea's just for show anyway, isn't it? Even if they are jacked for battle in any way, they should still look extremely over the top. Probably wouldn't work for General Audience but I think that's how it should go.Should Bucky have a costume or should he just be a normal soldier?
What kind of costume should Cap wear?
Yes.Should they do Cap's origin?
Mask most likely. If not there should be a slight reference of simply just give him the name. He should be the Nazis answer to Cap both in battle and in the eyes of their forces supporters.I assume almost everyone would agree the Red Skull should be the villain, over say Kleiser. How should they explain his skull face? Is he wearing a mask or just deformed?
Was Captain America anything like Ultimate Cap when he was unfrozen. I think when I started reading 616 Cap, he had a pretty decent grasp on the century he was in.Also should Cap's personality be closer to the 616 or Ultimate version?
That's because Marvel asks writers if they want to have a tie-in arc in their series. If they don't, then they-Granted so far they've left Brubaker alone.
...do that. Make a mini. You got it.Besides, they could just as easily do a mini retelling Steve's origin.
''Was Captain America anything like Ultimate Cap when he was unfrozen. I think when I started reading 616 Cap, he had a pretty decent grasp on the century he was in.''
Granted going from the 40's to the 60's isn't as big of a leap as from the 40's to the 2,000's.
All thing considered i'd have him more like the 616 Steve Rogers since he's the actual Steve Rogers.
Not that i don't like Ultimate Cap.
I already see Ult Cap as Movie version Cap. What the would do with 616 to make him more movie accessible
What do you mean by that?
I already see Ult Cap as Movie version Cap. What the would do with 616 to make him more movie accessible
Anyway I think Red Skull would look very scary in an SS uniform with a skull for a face
Little bit of bothYou mean Personality or Origin?
I mean they could easily have him have Ult Cap's orgin with 616's Cap's personality.
Movie versions are generally modern interuptations of characters, things are changed to work with the audience of the time. Ultimate Captian is a damn close result of the same principle
Back then it would be a mask.
Then again currently it's a Mask too but that was because he was in Lukin's body.
616 Cap is more likable though and liakable characters are important, compare their attitudes towards the French for example. Audiences like it when the mian character is somewhat likable.
You're telling me that an American audience, which is Marvel's prime national demographic, would be turned off at "This A stands for France"? And Ultimate Cap is likable but he's also a much tougher character, he feels like someone whose been through a war and have seen some horrible ****. That is much more realistic and can give a real character for the audience empathize with. He is just like 616 cap, just a modern take on the character. Or else will end up with something very campy like how cap usually has been portrayed in other medias
Nope but he's more like Ult Cap than how 616 Cap was generally portrayed Also I said in "other medias" meaning in things like TV, movie, etc. It wasn't until after Ult Cap made his appearance did Cap in both 616 and other medias became far less campyWas Brubaker's Captain America campy?
I'm willing to bet if people saw that on scree3n tomorrow they would both understand the WWII mindset as well as cheer for the sheer awesomeness and hilarityof that momentI think an American audeince would have found it cool in 2003, I think a lot of people would think that comment is stupid and jingoistic nowadays.
Plus there are key differences between 616 Cap and Ultimate Cap, Ultimate Cap is merely a follower and would do almost anything the government tells him to, 616 cap is a leader, he has values and will not compronise and he doesn't mindlessly follow anyone, he fought against the government like 3 times, because he felt they were compromising America's values. That's the difference, 616 Cap is an icon and symbol, Ultimate Cap is just another soldier.