X-Men Series Discussion (Spoilers)

That's Sinister, all right. There's no blue mouth thing.

Their designs were always way too similar. :/

Will there be another Annual? They had an Uncanny Annual too a while back and I don't know if there are any plans for a continuation. There was also that New X-Men Annual from '01... Sigh, they should just call these Specials if they don't plan on actually continuing them.
 
There will be more. Quesada has stated before that he had them stopped before and is now continuing them again because they had lost their importance before or something like that.

But yes, there will be more annuals to come.
 
As soon as I found out it was Sinister, one thought came straight to my mind:

Sinister will try to repopulate the mutant world.

And if he does, it won't be pretty.
 
Some little things from Carey's site:

1) I know you have a truckload of stories on the way, but any plans to use the Hellfire Club if even in a minor role? I'd like to see where you take that concept given your Vertigo stuff.


3) Any truth that Stryfe is secretly holed up in Providence, in the midst of, harshing rebelling against or possibly already taking a chance at redemption? (You can plead the fifth)

Keep up the good work.

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1. They're among my favourite X-Men villains, but there'll need to be a lull after Torn, even given that things weren't exactly how they seemed there. If I stay on the book past #210, I'd really like to bring the Hellfire Club in.


3. Nobody knows, obviously, but events coming up soon may answer that question in an unexpected way.

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#196

Issue starts with Rogue strapped to a machine with her outfit torn and shredded conveniently in just the right places to not make this a MAX book. She unconvincingly threatens the Indian broad at the computer in front of her. The Indian chick is less than impressed and starts to call her white trash as Pan enters and tells her to get lost, by way of sending her off to dissect the rest of the team. As she walks down the hall Mystique appears hanging from the ceiling behind her. Pan and Rogue talk. He says copying superpowers aren't the part of her powers he wants, but he knows how to get what he wants and he turns the machine on as needles move towards Rogue.

Elsewhere Sabertooth crashes into the building. The scientists freak out as he climbs out of the rubble and demands to know where he is. After he finds out he plans on leaving, but is attacked by the blood monster thingies from a few issues back. They call themselves the Plague Dogs and claim to be unhurtable since they are some kind of weird living liquid things. Sabertooth intends to test that theory.

The conquistador rockets into space. Cable punches the retro rockets in hopes that Pan can't hold up his teleportation forcefield while using all his power to push the Conquistador. He teleports out and Cannonball leaves the ship and rockets back towards Earth.

The Indian woman enters the dissection room and after some awkward dialogue from Carey about sterilized cutlery, she chops the docs up. Surprise, surprise: it's Mystique (if you didn't see that coming, then I hope you enjoy riding the short bus tomorrow). She wakes up Mastermind, saying "Grotesque as it sounds -- the X-Men need us."

Elsewhere Pan uses his stolen mindreading ablities to tell Rogue that her friends are coming for her. She seems more concerned with all the needles he's stuck in her. Pan's true objective seems to be jacking people's memories, not their powers. He gives a speech, something about being everyone that made me think the words The Collective. He thinks he's discovered a way to do it, but he wants to test it on Rogue first. So he injects her with this stuff.

Downstairs Cable is using his amazing mutant ability to shoot guns to kill a bunch of people. Sam flies in and they chatter until Sabes starts throwing corpses their way. Sam says Creed looks like crap. Sabertooth blames it on getting shot out of a torpedo tube and eating too much. That's right folks, Sabertooth ate the Plague Dogs. Mmmm, tasty blood monsters. The humans won't give up and Cable asks why that is. Some dude says Pandemic offered them immortality. I wonder if he left out the part where they don't actually live forever, they just steal people's awkward high school memories. Seriously, WORST. IMMORTALITY. EVER. I'd feel jipped.

Soldiers bust in on Pan's experiment and tell him the muties are close. He tells them to drop the charade. Mastermind does and Pan blasts them. Karima blasts back. They bicker about wanting to be more or less human. Guthrie interrupts by flying into Pan. Pan counters while Cable lets Rogue loose. Pan attacks Cable and dares to mock Cable's amazing mutant ability to shoot guns. He's about to hand Nate his *** when Nate calls for Sabertooth's help. Sabes drops from the ceiling. Pan mocks Creed's efforts, but neglects the fact that Creed's healing abilities are going to cure him of his powers since they came from a virus. Creed is about to royally **** him up when Rogue calls out that she wants to do it. Creed thinks that ought to be good for a laugh so he holds him up. She's about to give him the bad touch when Cable stops her. He gives the usual good guy rant about killing never being ok (unless of course it's all the flunkies he just shot), anywho she passes out. And Mastermind decides to do the job herself. She puts him in an illusion of an endless maze. Karima asks if it's permanent she says it'll last a few months tops. Creed says Mastermind smells funny. Like something inside her is dead. She tells him to back off. Rogue is in bad shape. Cable says she's dying.

3.75/5 - The dialogue was off in some places and Pan is a chump of a villain, but I'm curious about what the hell is up with Mastermind and Karima. Sabertooth still works in the same capacity that Bullseye does for the new Thunderbolts and that shouldn't change, especially since I think Carey is pulling it off better than Ellis is so far. Please spare me Internet Jesus. Nate and Sam have been stale all arc, but I didn't mind as much as I probably should. Didn't miss Iceman at all in this issue. Maybe he should stay in suspended animation for a while.
 
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Little news on the series-

Mike Carey said:
Gavin, IMO the Mutant Massacre didn't in the end play out all that well as a story - it lost a lot of momentum down in the Morlock tunnels, which is where all the crossover elements kicked in. But it arrived like thunder, and Chris Claremont did an immaculate job of introducing this new villain team so that they seemed really dangerous and really fascinating. It seemed like every time you felt you had a handle on them, a couple more team members would show up and the dynamic would shift again. And we didn't know what their agenda was or whose orders they were following: they just arrived and started killing. Very scary stuff.

The next few arcs… well, as you know, Condition Critical leaves some ongoing problems behind it, not least for Rogue and Cable. In the #200-#203 arc, we see the team trying to deal with those situations - and going back to a setting we haven't seen for a long time. A setting which has particular significance for Rogue. That's when the fewmets really hit the windmill: starting in #200, things go from bad to unimaginably bad, and the X-Men are left trying to figure out why they've been hit and how they can respond before things escalate out of control. I say the X-Men… but it won't be all of the X-Men. It will be a kind of ragged rump of a team, running with the ball because nobody else can.

Then we're into the crossover, and the transition into that is going to be a big - a very big - cliff-hanger not just for the Adjectiveless team but for everyone. And after that, in #208, we'll be introducing our new team, with (hopefully) some big surprises.

Sam is absolutely central in the #200-203 arc.
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Interesting stuff. A new team already in the plans, I wonder who is in, who is out, and how much of this has to do with the big X-event.
 
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That cover reeks of Liefield. Some of the characters' proportions are way off.
 
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That cover reeks of Liefield. Some of the characters' proportions are way off.
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Finch draws everyone the exact same. There is no difference between Rogue, Kitty, Psylocke and every other female on the page. Oddly enough...they all look asian.

Finch got the yellow fever bad. :lol:


But I guess it's no different than any other artist like Land, McNiven, Turner, etc. They all draw their characters the exact same way. The only way to distinguish who is who is by costume and hair.
 
I think its pretty awesome, but hey, what do I know, I'm just the coolest person in the world.

Also: Ultimate Cable?! Look up between Pheonix and Colossus you'll see a guy with a glowing eye and wolverine claws...

o_O
 
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