X-Men Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Revised & Original)

I've thought about it.

Possible timelines:
Earth-66250 - Cable's Timeline
Earth-???? - Deadpool Dies (if not Earth-17315)
Earth-41633 - Deadpool Lives
Earth-???? - Venessa Lives (if not Earth-17315)
Earth-???? - Peter Lives (if not Earth-17315)
Earth-18315 - Weapon XI Dies
Earth-???? - Ryan Reynolds Dies
Earth-???? - Baby Hitler

If not any of those, probably just a variant that looks the same. I mean, even though the Spider-Men are the same, the Sinister Six are different versions in Spider-Man: No Way Home.

On principle, it should technically be the same version.
 
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So... has anyone heard about
Patrick Stewarts Professor X being in a multiverse Illuminati that attempts to take down Wanda in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness?

There's another thing that they do that sounds kinda terrible to me. Apparently Wanda is supposed to snap his neck according to the original source, who claimed that they were only told of an early version of the script.

Now, if that actually happens, it can't be the Fox Xavier because of the events of Logan. The only way it could work as the same is to say it's an alternate branch established in Deadpool 2, otherwise it's a random variant. In the later, I guess it doesn't affect X-Men.

Would rather no Xavier especially if he's gonna die in a cameo like that.
It's pretty legit since it's been backed by serveral creditible scoopers and an ex-variety writer so I want to warn everyone for spoilers in case it's true. Seriously, guys.
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Inb4 It's an older version of Legion's Xavier
 
I've solved it.

Xavier had a brain dead twin brother in the original timeline that he used to resurrect himself, so to speak. You can simply say that he did the same thing in the revised timeline. It also explains why he doesn't live in Logan, because he's already in his dead brothers brain.

You see, Marvel Studios is just making the Fox timeline even more messy. :p
 
2002
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The Gifted 2x12, "hoMe" (0:00:00 - 0:02:36) [DoFP Timeline]
The Gifted 2x12, "hoMe" (0:34:54 - 0:35:05) [DoFP Timeline]

"Fourteen Years Ago" from 2017 is 2003.

Also, I'm guessing that moving X-Men: The Last Stand is partially to do with Jean's age. If so, fair enough.
 
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2002
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The Gifted 2x12, "hoMe" (0:00:00 - 0:02:36) [DoFP Timeline]
The Gifted 2x12, "hoMe" (0:34:54 - 0:35:05) [DoFP Timeline]

"Fourteen Years Ago" from 2017 is 2003.

Also, I'm guessing that moving X-Men: The Last Stand is partially to do with Jean's age. If so, fair enough.
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I didn't know I moved The Last Stand. I was copying and pasting from a document that I had for a while. Might have forgotten to change that.
 
2017
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The New Mutants Chapter 1 (0:00:00 - 0:02:39)
The New Mutants Chapter 2 (0:02:40 - 0:08:07)
The New Mutants Chapter 3 (0:08:08 - 0:10:53)
The New Mutants Chapter 4 (0:10:54 - 0:14:32)
The New Mutants Chapter 5 (0:14:33 - 0:17:23)
The New Mutants Chapter 6 (0:17:24 - 0:19:52)
The New Mutants Chapter 7 (0:19:53 - 0:23:41)
The New Mutants Chapter 8 (0:23:42 - 0:27:53)
The New Mutants Chapter 9 (0:27:54 - 0:30:29)
The New Mutants Chapter 10 (0:30:30 - 0:33:25)
The New Mutants Chapter 11 (0:33:26 - 0:39:36)
The New Mutants Chapter 12 (0:39:37 - 0:43:12)
The New Mutants Chapter 13 (0:43:13 - 0:47:52)
The New Mutants Chapter 14 (0:47:53 - 0:50:34)
The New Mutants Chapter 15 (0:50:35 - 0:52:11)
The New Mutants Chapter 16 (0:52:12 - 0:55:28)
The New Mutants Chapter 17 (0:55:29 - 0:57:28)
The New Mutants Chapter 18 (0:57:13 - 1:00:16)
The New Mutants Chapter 19 (1:00:17 - 1:02:37)
The New Mutants Chapter 20 (1:02:38 - 1:06:35)
The New Mutants Chapter 21 (1:06:36 - 1:11:11)
The New Mutants Chapter 22 (1:11:12 - 1:13:43)
The New Mutants Chapter 23 (1:13:44 - 1:15:07)
The New Mutants Chapter 24 (1:15:08 - 1:18:56)
The New Mutants Chapter 25 (1:18:57 - 1:21:51)
The New Mutants Chapter 26 (1:21:52 - 1:24:31)
The New Mutants Chapter 27 (1:24:32 - 1:26:45)

Not sure if there are any real flashbacks, just nightmares I'm pretty sure.
 
I know it sounds crazy, but is there any reason why Deadpool 2 can't be set 10 years after the first film? The Year of the Dog reference would place Deadpool in 2006-2008, and all the timeline evidence and the Marvel Appendix itself places Deadpool 2 in 2018. I struggle ignoring either piece of evidence.

I mean, if there can be a 10 year gap between every X-Men film... probably not, but still.
 
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I know it sounds crazy, but is there any reason why Deadpool 2 can't be set 10 years after the first film? The Year of the Dog reference would place Deadpool in 2006-2008, and all the timeline evidence and the Marvel Appendix itself places Deadpool 2 in 2018. I struggle ignoring either piece of evidence.

I mean, if there can be a 10 year gap between every X-Men film... probably not, but still.
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I think the biggest problem would be Negasonic's age? as she's a teenager in both movies.

That being said, according to the mainline movies Cyclops was a teenager for several decades and Stryker ages 15 years in the space of three, so it wouldnt be the first time aging is werid in these movies...
 
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I think the biggest problem would be Negasonic's age? as she's a teenager in both movies.

That being said, according to the mainline movies Cyclops was a teenager for several decades and Stryker ages 15 years in the space of three, so it wouldnt be the first time aging is werid in these movies...
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Cyclops in-universe is a teenager in X-Men Origins: Wolverine (1979) and X-Men: Apocalypse (1983). He just happens to look as he did in the latter film in X-Men: Dark Phoenix (1992).

Stryker looks completely different in two different films in scenes set in 1973. You kinda have to just go with it.

It only really matters if they mention Negasonic's age, to me. Xavier is 60 in X-Men: Dark Phoenix, he just happens to look really good for his age.
 
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Cyclops in-universe is a teenager in X-Men Origins: Wolverine (1979) and X-Men: Apocalypse (1983). He just happens to look as he did in the latter film in X-Men: Dark Phoenix (1992).

Stryker looks completely different in two different films in scenes set in 1973. You kinda have to just go with it.

It only really matters if they mention Negasonic's age, to me. Xavier is 60 in X-Men: Dark Phoenix, he just happens to look really good for his age.
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I dont think they mention her age in the second movie. I think if she was say, 14 in Deadpool 1 and a young-looking 24 year old it can work.

EDIT: Negasonic's actress is currently 25, so yeah it could totally work

I also just assume that in these movies a common secondary mutation is that a lot of mutants just age like Hollywood celebrities. I mean Tom Cruise looks good for someone pushing 60, but you wouldn't accuse him of being an immortal
 
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I dont think they mention her age in the second movie. I think if she was say, 14 in Deadpool 1 and a young-looking 24 year old it can work.

EDIT: Negasonic's actress is currently 25, so yeah it could totally work

I also just assume that in these movies a common secondary mutation is that a lot of mutants just age like Hollywood celebrities. I mean Tom Cruise looks good for someone pushing 60, but you wouldn't accuse him of being an immortal
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I think you could probably push it to 15-16, even.

Just some quick thoughts on the character ages:

Quicksilver - Speedster. Heals faster. Slower aging as a result?

Beast - He's got a animal-like mutation. I think his age is less noticeable.

Magneto - Perhaps when Apocalypse boosted his powers, it stunted his age slightly?

Xavier - Perhaps when Apocalypse was trying to get his powers in the scene that made him bald, his age was slowed? Or he just ages less noticeably in the Revised Timeline for some reason.

Jean Grey/Cyclops - Eh, I think that works.

Now, if we put Deadpool 2 in the X-Men timeline, of course these characters age quite significantly between 2018 and 2023. Still, I think Xavier would be the only funny thing. Maybe Storm too.

Even then, it's very brief and they're in the background of the shot.
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Magneto - Perhaps when Apocalypse boosted his powers, it stunted his age slightly?

Xavier - Perhaps when Apocalypse was trying to get his powers in the scene that made him bald, his age was slowed? Or he just ages less noticeably in the Revised Timeline for some reason.
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I always assumed that one of the side effects of the "cure" serum Xavier was using in DOFP was that it accelerated aging, and in the original timeline he used it for longer periods, which is why he ends up looking like Patrick Stewart at a much younger age.

Similarly for Magneto, in the original timeline would have spent much longer in captivity and may have been exposed to experimentation which had the same aging effect.

Aside from that, I also have theories that a bunch of characters are just actually "legacy" characters. For example, Caliban in "Apocalypse" is the father of the Caliban in "Logan" and he is kind of embarrassed by his awkward son.

here is a point of contention: is the Wade Wilson in X-men Origins: Wolverine the same Wade Wilson in Deadpool? Given that the first movie takes place in the 70s it is possible in the post-DOFP timeline he could have ended up being the deadbeat dad that Wade in the "Deadpool" movies talks about.
 
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I always assumed that one of the side effects of the "cure" serum Xavier was using in DOFP was that it accelerated aging, and in the original timeline he used it for longer periods, which is why he ends up looking like Patrick Stewart at a much younger age.

Similarly for Magneto, in the original timeline would have spent much longer in captivity and may have been exposed to experimentation which had the same aging effect.

Aside from that, I also have theories that a bunch of characters are just actually "legacy" characters. For example, Caliban in "Apocalypse" is the father of the Caliban in "Logan" and he is kind of embarrassed by his awkward son.

here is a point of contention: is the Wade Wilson in X-men Origins: Wolverine the same Wade Wilson in Deadpool? Given that the first movie takes place in the 70s it is possible in the post-DOFP timeline he could have ended up being the deadbeat dad that Wade in the "Deadpool" movies talks about.
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I definitely think Angel (X-Men: Apocalypse) is a different character from Angel (X-Men: The Last Stand).

I kinda always considered Caliban to be the same character. Interesting idea.

I've always gone with Wade Wilson of X-Men Origins: Wolverine being a different character. Having him as the father of modern day Deadpool, Thomas "Wade" Wilson seems appropriate. It explains why Wade had strands of mutant DNA in Deadpool (2016). The males carry the X-Gene, per X2: X-Men United.

Also gives Wade an extra motivation to use Cable's time travel device to kill him, creating a divergent reality to the Original Timeline.

Perhaps Jubilee of the Original Trilogy could be a legacy character, then? Or maybe Stryker froze her in the Original Timeline.
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I am not putting Deadpool in the main timeline.
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We're not telling you to do that, though.
 
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Also gives Wade an extra motivation to use Cable's time travel device to kill him, creating a divergent reality to the Original Timeline.
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I have to admit I am amused by the idea that in that scene Wade is just getting back at his deadbeat dad
 
I'll update later today.

EDIT: Ultimately decided that since there's no legitimate reason as to why the Deadpool films fit in the X-Men Universe timeline, and since Disney is making a 3rd Deadpool film sometime in the next few years, to pump up the timeframe.

Why? Deadpool's cosmic/multiversal knowledge is something he did have in the comics so the same could apply here, and this event had to occur post-Logan.


As for the scene in Deadpool 2 where the X-Men close the door while Wade doesn't notice - all in his head. Although in relation to the Logan music box, which could also be in his head, he would need some knowledge of all this AFTER the fact.
 
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