Maciej Jankowski
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short answer: YES.
Universal Monsters - Viewing Order
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They're listed in the Universal Horror history book, so... yeah.
But not specifically as "Universal Monsters" movies, right? So they shouldn't be on here?
Maciej Jankowski
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The franchise was called Universal Horror back when the book was written. They recently-ish renamed it to Universal Monsters, so they should still be on here. Besides, both names are used interchangeably. UM is just the more accurate one now.
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They're the same thing.
Universal Horror - TV Tropes
Back in The Silent Age of Hollywood and The Golden Age of Hollywood, several of the studios found a genre to build themselves a reputation for in order to stand out from the competition. In the case of Universal Pictures, this genre was horror.
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Technically speaking, monster doesn't have to refer to a creature. A human character can be a monster. It'd be hard to find a film without some antagonistic force.
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The thing you have to understand about UM is that a lot of it never really directly connects, or was a reboot at some point, or seems out of place. Certainly, with statements regarding The Mummy (2017) and the Dark Universe park, plus the footage they used for it, it is definitely one universe now, even though some connections are less sustainable than others. Fun fact, the audio short story on this timeline set in the 1940s titled Halloween Horror Nights: Echoes from the Fog 1x04, "Universal Monsters: Eternal Bloodlines" ties to an amusement featuring the Classic Monsters, particularly Dracula's Daughter. There's easter eggs to Abigail in it, which is confirmed Universal Monsters in interviews too.
Some content is more distant and less connected than others, while sometimes it is. The Mole People had absolutely no connection until the new park referenced it, but it was always part of the universe. I would expect nods to other things too, honestly.
Some content is more distant and less connected than others, while sometimes it is. The Mole People had absolutely no connection until the new park referenced it, but it was always part of the universe. I would expect nods to other things too, honestly.
As far as I can see, Universal reserves the newer "Universal Monsters" branding exclusively for their actual monster movies, and we can't necessarily grandfather-in their monster-less crime mystery movies.
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Those movies aren't grandfathered in. The difference is that they were part of the brand originally. From 1913 to 1956, Universal Horror and Universal Monsters were the exact same thing. Talking about the newer Universal Monsters films is somewhat irrelevant since it's completely different and unrelated to said crime mystery movies.
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Universal Monsters as a title wasn't even really a thing until the 1990s, by the way.
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Ah yes, the whole "Humans are the real Monsters" trope.
Yes, by 'newer "Universal Monsters" branding' below, I'm referring its 1990s-and-on use as a franchise title.
