Universal Monsters - Viewing Order
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Not really, no.
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I should probably add a note about why some of Hammer Horror is included on the main page. Serveral Frankenstein and The Mummy films were co-produced with Universal, Peter Cushing was Frankenstein alongside Christopher Lee's Dracula in an unrelated film, and Jessica Van Helsing from the Hammer Dracula film series appears in a Universal Monsters magazine.
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The Mummy (1999)
The Mummy (2017)
Why anyone thinks these two are separate continuities I will never understand.
The Mummy (2017)
Why anyone thinks these two are separate continuities I will never understand.
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Apparently the Scorpion King from the film series is different to the one from The Mummy Returns. That means the timeline should be pushed back, I think.
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"While it appeared Scorpion Kings in The Mummy Returns and The Scorpion King are the same person, Stephen Sommers would later clarify that the one in the latter film being identical grandfather of the former. He further stated that there's no way Mathayus could have become the bloodthirsty warrior like his late nemesis Memnon. To further drive this point, The Scorpion King's sequels showed him perservere in ordeals which would potentially put him into a dark path like his grandson or Memnon."
Mathayus
Mathayus was an Akkadian warrior who was widely known as the Scorpion King, and he would later become the grandfather to an ancient evil that Rick O'Connell stopped from destroying the world. Once a warrior-for-hire who was the last of a dying people, the Akkadians, Mathayus became a mercenary...
Mathayus III
Mathayus III, also known as The Scorpion King, was the identical grandson of original Mathayus. In stark contrast of his grandfather, Mathayus III became a ruthless warlord who led a siege on the city of Thebes, after which they were forced out into the deserts. There, The Last Scorpion King...
"While it appeared Scorpion Kings in The Mummy Returns and The Scorpion King are the same person, Stephen Sommers would later clarify that the one in the latter film being identical grandfather of the former. He further stated that there's no way Mathayus could have become the bloodthirsty warrior like his late nemesis Memnon. To further drive this point, The Scorpion King's sequels showed him perservere in ordeals which would potentially put him into a dark path like his grandson or Memnon."
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Probably BS actually.
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I guess... but what really contradicts it being the same universe? Just because we don't see mobile phones doesn't mean they don't exist. Not seeing our present day in that movie doesn't contradict that our present day is concurrent to it. In my opinion, anyway.
According to TV Tropes Scorpion King 4 is set between the 1st and 2nd movies
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The Scorpion King
The Scorpion King is a Spin-Off/Prequel to The Mummy Returns, released in 2002. It's the year 5000 BC - or thereabouts. The anachronistic Greek general Memnon is out to, you guessed it, take over the world, which consists of African tribesmen, …
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Probably just a load of rubbish. Everyone seems to argue on the order of these films, but only the second one is explicitly a prequel to the prequel to the sequel of a reboot (but the kind of reboot that's the same universe thanks to The Mummy (2017)).According to TV Tropes Scorpion King 4 is set between the 1st and 2nd movies
The Scorpion King
The Scorpion King is a Spin-Off/Prequel to The Mummy Returns, released in 2002. It's the year 5000 BC - or thereabouts. The anachronistic Greek general Memnon is out to, you guessed it, take over the world, which consists of African tribesmen, …
The biplanes, zeppelins and ticker-tape machine make it an odd fit for present day. It's more a vision of an alternative 1930s IMO.
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That sounds expensive. I think if I were to do that, I'd start with adding all of The Mummy (1999)'s franchise, since it's a good branching off section. Then The Mummy (2017), then add The Mummy: Dark Universe Stories, which adds The Mummy's Hand film series. So, probably just the timeline for The Mummy, and then I start adding franchises bit by bit. You're welcome to help out if I ever do, lol.
Fun fact: There will be a reference to The Mole People (1956) in the Dark Universe park in the form of a rotting corpse in Darkmoor village.
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8 new details just revealed for Dark Universe at Epic Universe
Dark Universe at Epic Universe — celebrating Universal Classic Monsters — will feature a vampire colony and references to "The Mole People."
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You're right. Is that really a contradiction though? We can have those in real life too. I don't see it much different than Black Ops II sharing the same universe as Modern Warfare (2019). The technology exists, so it stands to reason that a city in this universe could look like that.
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i don't think they're close, but very cool question.
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don't forget we're getting a 2nd Mole People film. which is very exciting to me, one of the little UM films getting more love is always welcome"You'll know from the time you walk in to Darkmoor that there are monsters around," Carsillo said. "In the outskirts of the village, there is a cage where they trapped a monster. It's all decayed. It's one of the Mole People. If you ever saw our old Universal movie 'The Mole People' … we have Mole People in Darkmoor. Right away, you know that this is a Universal Monster experience, but you also know, it's a little bit scary."8 new details just revealed for Dark Universe at Epic Universe
Dark Universe at Epic Universe — celebrating Universal Classic Monsters — will feature a vampire colony and references to "The Mole People."
Universal Digs In On Revamp Of ‘The Mole People’; Chris Winterbauer Scripting, Skybound’s Robert Kirkman & Dave Alpert Producing
Universal Digs In On Revamp Of ‘The Mole People;’ Chris Winterbauer Scripting; Skybound’s Robert Kirkman & Dave Alpert Producing
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Don't forget the evolution of LA in the Alien/Predator/Blade Runner Universe
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Whemple/Banning Family
Steve Banning
1898 - The Mummy (1959)
Joseph Whemple (Steve Banning (1959)'s cousin's brother)
1898 - The Mummy (1959)
John Banning (Steve Banning (1959)'s son)
1898 - The Mummy (1959)
Steve Banning
1912 - The Mummy's Hand
1942 - The Mummy's Tomb
Jane Banning (Steve Banning (1940)'s sister)
1942 - The Mummy's Tomb
Joseph Whemple
1932 - The Mummy (1932)
Frank Whemple (Joseph Whemple (1932)'s son)
1932 - The Mummy (1932)
John Banning (Steve Banning (1940)'s son)
1942 - The Mummy's Tomb
2017 - The Mummy: Dark Universe Stories
Isobel Evans/Banning (John Banning (1942)'s wife)
1942 - The Mummy's Tomb
2017 - The Mummy: Dark Universe Stories
Joseph Whemple
2017 - The Mummy (2017)
2017 - The Mummy: Dark Universe Stories
Halsey Family
James Halsey
1967 - The Mummy's Curse
Jenny Halsey
2017 - The Mummy (2017)
Steve Banning
1898 - The Mummy (1959)
Joseph Whemple (Steve Banning (1959)'s cousin's brother)
1898 - The Mummy (1959)
John Banning (Steve Banning (1959)'s son)
1898 - The Mummy (1959)
Steve Banning
1912 - The Mummy's Hand
1942 - The Mummy's Tomb
Jane Banning (Steve Banning (1940)'s sister)
1942 - The Mummy's Tomb
Joseph Whemple
1932 - The Mummy (1932)
Frank Whemple (Joseph Whemple (1932)'s son)
1932 - The Mummy (1932)
John Banning (Steve Banning (1940)'s son)
1942 - The Mummy's Tomb
2017 - The Mummy: Dark Universe Stories
Isobel Evans/Banning (John Banning (1942)'s wife)
1942 - The Mummy's Tomb
2017 - The Mummy: Dark Universe Stories
Joseph Whemple
2017 - The Mummy (2017)
2017 - The Mummy: Dark Universe Stories
Halsey Family
James Halsey
1967 - The Mummy's Curse
Jenny Halsey
2017 - The Mummy (2017)
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