Ultimates 3 #1-5 discussion [Loeb/Madureira] [spoilers]

[ourchair]

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To be honest, Wolverine secretly wants to bang any chick that moves. It's how he had so many women in 616....which about 90% of them die at some point because of him.

He and Daredevil trade sloppy seconds.

 

[Ultimate Houde]

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Oh - and Spidey's guest appearance is still completely pointless.

Oh no he won't be, he'll show up at the last moment in the final battle with information they needed that they didn't know they needed.

Imagine that.

 

[MaxwellSmart]

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All I can say is this feels like Avengers Disassembled all over again.

I did love the line, "Did you used to the Brotherhood?"

"Didn't you used to have a wife and two kids?"

 

[Friday]

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ya know... that wife and two kids quote was great and all however....

Drunken Pickle? Are you a flaming, flying drunken pickle?

OMIGOD! ISoWHANT@NOWUTTEHSPECALSECRETBONDBETWEENBLAKPANTHURANDCAPTINAMERIACNIS

Edit: I bet the secret between Captain America is that Ultimate Black Panther is just the Falcon in a new costume. 'cuz, there can only be one black guy in the Ultimate Marvel Universe. It's like Highlander.

Thats perfect! Wait... no its not. Damnit.

As for the rest of it... why was Wundagore name dropped?

I got excited for half a second when they name dropped Wundagore. I don't know why but I love High Evolutionary stories. Then it proved to be just another claw notch on Wolverine's belt.

He and Daredevil trade sloppy seconds.

*coughcoughElektracough*

 

[fenway]

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I was hoping Venom was after Zarda, or whatever her name is.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

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I can't stop reading this.

Its bad in ways I never knew bad could be. But Lord help me, I can't stop reading.

 

[the watcher]

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You know I had a dream last night that maybe these mistakes... arn't mistakes. Maybe it's just Wanda's power's becoming more and more out of control. Like what if everything we thought were mistakes arn't mistakes...

Like the Fantastic Four being younger now, Spider-Man and Silver Sable not remembering that they've met before, Spider-Man not remembering that he met Elektra before, or Magneto not remembering he met Wolverine before. Wolverine say that Hawkeye had only two kids instead of three. And maybe the reason the Ultimates have been so moody lately is because their about to change because of Wanda.

 

[Foolsfolly]

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You know I had a dream last night that maybe these mistakes... arn't mistakes. Maybe it's just Wanda's power's becoming more and more out of control. Like what if everything we thought were mistakes arn't mistakes...

Like the Fantastic Four being younger now, Spider-Man and Silver Sable not remembering that they've met before, Spider-Man not remembering that he met Elektra before, or Magneto not remembering he met Wolverine before. Wolverine say that Hawkeye had only two kids instead of three. And maybe the reason the Ultimates have been so moody lately is because their about to change because of Wanda.

So.....Ultimates Dissassembled.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

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Ugh.

The entire UU is being retconned and not just because Ben punched a dinosaur.

 

[E]

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not just because Ben punched a dinosaur.

...

 

[the watcher]

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So.....Ultimates Dissassembled.

Maybe, but what if it's like the Overlord's question...

Why does everyone act like an angry teenager in this title?

What if they're about to become younger too.

Ugh.

The entire UU is being retconned and not just because Ben punched a dinosaur.

It's possible. I mean look what they did in the House of M. Everything changed because of Wanda's power went out of control. Some of the Ultimate stories are based apond classic and recent stories from the MU. They could of just use part of the story of House of M as the starting house for the Ultimatum story line.

 

[ShaggyMarco]

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So now we don't have to blame things on "Ben Punched a Dinosaur" anymore, we can just say "Oh the Wanda, what a little scamp!"



In all seriousness...I think there may be merit to Wanda causing all of the continuity problems: someone related to the Ultimates figures it out (Tony? Fury? Hank Pym who programed it into his Ultron-bots and then killed himself so he doesn't fave to face the music of assassinating a friend? Better yet, he's uploaded his mind into the Ultron-bot assassin who looks like Iron Man) and kills Wanda, which causes Magneto to go on a massive rampage in revenge. This is Ultimates 3.

Ultimatum is what everyone must do to put the Ultimate Universe back the way it should be, repairing all of the damage Wanda caused.

I don't think I like this at all...

 

[mike3717]

Seriously, saying this is a vast improvement over the first two, means absolute ****.

Cause the first two were pieces of crap, and here, it's still crap with bits of shiny crap thrown in.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That about sums it up.

And are you honestly excited over Ka-zar and Sheena?

I could have been if it were done correctly.

This is so awful on so many levels. The fact that I read UH #2 right before I read this made it all that much worse. It's like eating Prime Rib and then having to gut down bologna and ketchup sandwiches.

I mean look what they did in the House of M. Everything changed because of Wanda's power went out of control. Some of the Ultimate stories are based apond classic and recent stories from the MU. They could of just use part of the story of House of M as the starting house for the Ultimatum story line.

I thought that also. I figure Ultimatum is just going to be Ultimate House of M. How original. :sick:

Silly me, thinking I would have liked to see some more Ultimate Ultron or maybe some Ultimate Wonder Man or *gasp* some more of Ultimate Cap'n Marvel. There are mountains of Avengers stories begging to be Ultimatized. And HoM is not one of them. (IMO)

 

[Drunken Pickle]

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ya know... that wife and two kids quote was great and all however....

Drunken Pickle? Are you a flaming, flying drunken pickle?


Only every other day

Well, I'm thinking of reading this title today and i just thought of the most ridiculous possibility. Watch Loeb somehow make BP's identity be Bucky. I mean, Cap did vouch for BP in the first ish. Yes he's old, yes he has cancer but this is Loeb after all. he can just about #$^@ anything up nowadays

It's ridiculous yes and i'm hoping i am wrong about this

 

[Lynx]

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All the problems in the Ultimate Universe will always be because Ben punched a dinosaur. Even if Loeb says it was because of Scarlet Witch, I will respond with "Scarlet Witch exists because Ben punched a dinosaur". I'm sorry, Loeb, but you will NOT take that away from us.

Oh, and **** you for trying to. Dick.

 

[bluebeast]

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I just read it finally. Blech. Oh and anyone else notice they censor cuss words with skulls and nuclear symbols. It's so extreme to the max.

 

[Joe Kalicki]

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I don't care what anyone says, this issue was borderline good and I really liked it.

Wanda magicking in dinosaurs makes more sense than Magneto doing genetic experiments, particularly in context with her Ultimate Power appearance.

 

[Ultimate Houde]

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But the Ultimate Power appearance was written by Loeb as well. So of course it's going to make sense if he wrote it.

 

[ShaggyMarco]

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But the Ultimate Power appearance was written by Loeb as well. So of course it's going to make sense if he wrote it.

Really? You're giving Loeb credit for being internally consistant within his own work?

 

[Ultimate Houde]

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Well yeah, he ignores the fact the dinosaurs were genetically engineered in Ultimate X-men, and decides to have them magicked up instead because it's ****ing magic, and we don't have to explain it.

And Again, I think Joe Kalicki is comparing this to the first two, which were complete pieces of crap.