The All About Comic Book Movies Thread

SSJmole said:
But as for an "an obvious, predictable plot." Iron man had that in a lot of ways like I mentioned before. E.g the gift solar heart was obviously going to save him after it was gifted to him.

Spider-man 1 and 2 (2 more so as it was basically the first) were predictable. the point i'm making is 99% of comic movies are have "obvious, predictable plot"
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When Iron Man was released and everyone around here was shouting out about how it was the greatest thing ever and so much better than Batman Begins, I mentioned continuously how it was not. Iron Man's 'paint-by-numbers'ness was only rescued by RDJ's brilliance in the role as well as a tight script with great dialogue. The Incredible Hulk was 90 minutes of exposition and a fight at the end, when I could have just stayed at home and played PS2.

And 'setting up for the Avengers film' does not warrant an existence. A film shouldn't be defined by its sequels. Films should be made so that they never even need sequels to begin with. The sequels should be the icing on the cake, rather than the ****ing ingredients. Again, the Nolan Batman films got this.

99.99% of comic book movies have a predictable plot? Yeah. That's why 99.99% of them suck ***. The ones that don't either have intelligent scripts or emotional resonance and The Incredible Hulk had neither. It had terrible CGI and bad jokes.

No it's not the best comic movie. But you make it sound as bad as "batman & robin" "catwoman" "steel" and more horrible movies.
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Funnily enough, I think I enjoyed Steel more than I enjoyed The Incredible Hulk. I didn't expect Steel to be great, or even good, and it was neither. I knew straight away that it was a random film with a ridiculous premise, about a random, C-list DC character. I took it with a pinch of salt and it ended up being entertaining for a bunch of silly reasons.

The Incredible Hulk is not a stupid, random film. It is a film about the number 2 Marvel character! It doesn't have a sports star as its lead, it has one of the best actors in Hollywood! It had all the ingredients for greatness. I couldn't wait for the references to the old TV show and hear the old music again (which I love) and I couldn't wait to see Edward Norton's portrayal of Banner (as I believed he was perfect for the character) and instead, it was a two-hour 'Why you need to see the Avengers movie when it's released in 50 years' pamphlet. Instead of the classic 'sad, walking away' ending we were promised, we got a 'cool' Banner-Badassery-Smiling-FTW!!! ending of stupidity, that still doesn't make any sense to me, also Tony Stark.

No.
 
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Gothamite said:
Instead of the classic 'sad, walking away' ending we were promised, we got a 'cool' Banner-Badassery-Smiling-FTW!!! ending of stupidity, that still doesn't make any sense to me, also Tony Stark.

No.
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But wouldn't the classic 'sad, walking away' ending be "predictable" which you are complaining it was?

Also the Banner smile is to show either a) he can control it in this universe like iron man just revealed his identity. or b) he likes it! like he has a few times.
 
See a New trailer & teaser for Astro Boy.

Trailer:
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Teaser 2:
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Astro Boy: I go Machine guns--in my butt??
 
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SSJmole said:
But wouldn't the classic 'sad, walking away' ending be "predictable" which you are complaining it was?
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It would have emotional resonance! Feeling! Instead, we just get the 'cool' ending.

Also the Banner smile is to show either a) he can control it in this universe like iron man just revealed his identity. or b) he likes it! like he has a few times.
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Whatever, it still isn't really fleshed out enough to make any sense.
 
Gothamite said:
When Iron Man was released and everyone around here was shouting out about how it was the greatest thing ever and so much better than Batman Begins, I mentioned continuously how it was not. Iron Man's 'paint-by-numbers'ness was only rescued by RDJ's brilliance in the role as well as a tight script with great dialogue. The Incredible Hulk was 90 minutes of exposition and a fight at the end, when I could have just stayed at home and played PS2.

And 'setting up for the Avengers film' does not warrant an existence. A film shouldn't be defined by its sequels. Films should be made so that they never even need sequels to begin with. The sequels should be the icing on the cake, rather than the ****ing ingredients. Again, the Nolan Batman films got this.

99.99% of comic book movies have a predictable plot? Yeah. That's why 99.99% of them suck ***. The ones that don't either have intelligent scripts or emotional resonance and The Incredible Hulk had neither. It had terrible CGI and bad jokes.



Funnily enough, I think I enjoyed Steel more than I enjoyed The Incredible Hulk. I didn't expect Steel to be great, or even good, and it was neither. I knew straight away that it was a random film with a ridiculous premise, about a random, C-list DC character. I took it with a pinch of salt and it ended up being entertaining for a bunch of silly reasons.

The Incredible Hulk is not a stupid, random film. It is a film about the number 2 Marvel character! It doesn't have a sports star as its lead, it has one of the best actors in Hollywood! It had all the ingredients for greatness. I couldn't wait for the references to the old TV show and hear the old music again (which I love) and I couldn't wait to see Edward Norton's portrayal of Banner (as I believed he was perfect for the character) and instead, it was a two-hour 'Why you need to see the Avengers movie when it's released in 50 years' pamphlet. Instead of the classic 'sad, walking away' ending we were promised, we got a 'cool' Banner-Badassery-Smiling-FTW!!! ending of stupidity, that still doesn't make any sense to me, also Tony Stark.

No.
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Nicely said.

the watcher said:
See a New trailer & teaser for Astro Boy.

Astro Boy: I go Machine guns--in my butt??
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The animation could be better. And it looks like they're trying to make AB more hip, with the casual clothes....It would probably be better if he had the classic look for the entire movie.
 
Gothamite said:
It would have emotional resonance! Feeling! Instead, we just get the 'cool' ending.
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No. It would have been too "been there done that" bordering on the clichéd.



Gothamite said:
Whatever, it still isn't really fleshed out enough to make any sense.
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It was a tease. Just like at the end of batman begins we got the joker card scene that actually didn't but much but tease at the fact we were getting Joker in dark knight.

Plus it showed he was off on his own again.
 
It was a tease. Just like at the end of batman begins we got the joker card scene that actually didn't but much but tease at the fact we were getting Joker in dark knight.

Plus it showed he was off on his own again.
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What? No, that made perfect sense. Gordon basically explained (in dialogue) that there was a man running around dressed up strangely, committing crimes. Even if you never knew who or what the Joker was and this was your first time seeing anything to do with Batman, you'd understand that this man was probably going to be the next enemy Batman would face.

TIH's ending teases nothing except --shock, horror, gasp-- he's about to turn into the Hulk again.
 
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SPIDER-MAN 5 & 6

While the fourth film in the "Spider-man" series slowly preps for production, Sony has announced its intentions to continue the series through a sixth installment. Variety reports screenwriter James Vanderbilt will write the subsequent films. He also wrote the initial draft of "Spider-man 4." According to Variety, the fifth and sixth films will have an interconnected storyline and could possibly serve as a reboot if the principle actors and director Sam Raimi decide to leave the series. "The most important thing is for Sony to prime the 'Spider-Man' pump more frequently. The lapse between films has grown with each blockbuster. The second film came only two years after the first, but it took three years for a third installment, and four years will have passed when 'Spider-Man 4' opens in summer 2011," says Variety.

Release date: TBA

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Wolverine 2

MTV Splash Page also speculates on the possibility that director Bryan Singer may be returning to his X-Men roots with the "Wolverine" sequel. They cite his frequent collaborations with screenwriter Christopher McQuarrie and the perfect timing that would allow him to do both this and his recently announced "Battlestar Galactica" threeboot film. Of course, this is all conjecture at the moment. Singer is often attached or said to be attached to a number of projects until production suddenly starts. "Superman Returns," happened in this fashion. Singer was also said to be working on a remake of "Logan's Run" that has never crystallized.

Release date: 2012?


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BLADE 4?

MTV Splash Page asked David Goyer about the status of the "Blade" franchise. "It's been rumored over at New Line," says Goyer. It is unclear if these rumors would lead to a fourth film or the "Deacon Frost" flick actor Stephen Dorf has been talking up.

Release date: TBA
 
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I'm very interested to see what happens with the Spider-Man franchise. I suppose I can deal with some more appearances from Maguire (he'll be pushing 40 by the time Spider-Man 6 comes out, though :?), but I'd love if they just recasted the whole shebang and did what The Incredible Hulk did. A new cast and an entirely different direction for the franchise, more in line with the hectic chaos of the comics.

I really like the idea of interconnected sequels as well, but I just hope these films can live up to it.
 
Gothamite said:
I'm very interested to see what happens with the Spider-Man franchise. I suppose I can deal with some more appearances from Maguire (he'll be pushing 40 by the time Spider-Man 6 comes out, though :?), but I'd love if they just recasted the whole shebang and did what The Incredible Hulk did. A new cast and an entirely different direction for the franchise, more in line with the hectic chaos of the comics.
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Yeah, but the first Hulk was just pure suck. The Spider-Man series has two solid films. It's pointless to just re-start after one crappy movie (Spider-Man 3).
 
That's a fair point, but I don't really want a 'restart', I just want them to continue on, with newer actors and a different kind of story.

Of all the superhero franchises, Spider-Man and Batman have the most James Bond-like capacity for continuing on and telling new and different stories for decades.

Putting in a new cast and going in a different direction doesn't always have to be because a franchise has gone to crap. In this case, I'd like it to happen because I feel they told a solid, inter-connected story with the last trilogy and that 'belongs' to that cast and crew. Now, they should move on and do something new and different, instead of milking the last one for all its worth.

I certainly don't want to see another Spider-Man origin movie though, if that's what you mean.
 
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Guy Ritchie to direct "Lobo"

Warner Brothers had announced that Director Guy Ritchie is a lock for the DC movie "Lobo"

Read more here: http://www.latinoreview.com/news/guy-ritchie-locked-and-loaded-for-lobo-7895
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I saw this story on CBR today. Not excited. It sounds like it could be pretty bad.

"the story at present will depict Lobo as "a seven-foot tall, blue-skinned, indestructible and heavily muscled anti-hero who drives a pimped out motorcycle, and lands on Earth in search of four fugitives who are bent on wreaking havoc." In this version of the film, Lobo will team-up with a "small town teenaged girl" to stop the villains." :sick:


Plus why make a Lobo movie and have it be PG-13?
 
mike3717 said:
I saw this story on CBR today. Not excited. It sounds like it could be pretty bad.

"the story at present will depict Lobo as "a seven-foot tall, blue-skinned, indestructible and heavily muscled anti-hero who drives a pimped out motorcycle, and lands on Earth in search of four fugitives who are bent on wreaking havoc." In this version of the film, Lobo will team-up with a "small town teenaged girl" to stop the villains." :sick:


Plus why make a Lobo movie and have it be PG-13?
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Ew. The synopsis sucks.
 
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