Runaways Vol. 2 #1-24 (Brian K. Vaughan/Adrian Alphona) (spoilers)

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Fuzzy Birds said:
Right. That sounds healthy.
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*shrugs* Marvel didn't seem too concerned with her age when they had her grow part way out of her clothes with her underwear and such showing during her first height multiplication.
 
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TheManWithoutFear said:
She's not bisexual either.
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If you say so. Besides, Young Avengers has the gay teen couple. It really wouldn't surprise me for the counterpart book to get the lesbian teen couple... well, we're already seeing it with Xavin/Karolina so we know BKV is open to it. I just don't see Xavin staying around permanently, which means there's still an opportunity for Nicolina later.
 
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Xavin will stay around, and his character will get better. Who thought Chase was their favorite character in issue 1? How many people love him now? Xavin will, in time, rule, just as every other character in that friggin' book does.

Also, I can see Nico experimenting with girls the same way college girls experiment with girls: just for the f/curiosity/attention of it.
 
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iceman said:
Xavin will stay around, and his character will get better. Who thought Chase was their favorite character in issue 1? How many people love him now? Xavin will, in time, rule, just as every other character in that friggin' book does.
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I dunno... as much as Xavin wants to be a she to humor Karolina, he has problems staying in a human male form much less the human female form she was attracted to. Eventually, even if everything else stays the same or improves between them, Karolina's going to want a significant other who's her girlfriend for more than a few minutes at a time. Then there will be the break-up and Xavin will wander off into D-list obscurity.
 
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jtg3885 said:
I dunno... as much as Xavin wants to be a she to humor Karolina, he has problems staying in a human male form much less the human female form she was attracted to. Eventually, even if everything else stays the same or improves between them, Karolina's going to want a significant other who's her girlfriend for more than a few minutes at a time. Then there will be the break-up and Xavin will wander off into D-list obscurity.
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I doubt that, BKV has something special in store for Xavin. He is BKV's own creation and as long as Brian works at Marvel we'll see Xavin (unless he's dead).
 
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Iceshadow said:
I doubt that, BKV has something special in store for Gavin. He is BKV's own creation and as long as Brian works at Marvel we'll see Gavin (unless he's dead).
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Yeah, but most of the current C and D listers are an active author's creation... sometimes they're even created to BE C and D listers. Just because BKV made him doesn't mean he'll stick around in the book or have a major role if he is in the book.

Besides, especially with the SHRA stuff... having a loose Skrull floating around Earth probably isn't something Tony Stark is keen on. He could get deported. Karolina at least counts as a US citizen because she was born on Earth. Come to think of it, does that mean they could deport Hulkling?
 
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jtg3885 said:
Yeah, but most of the current C and D listers are an active author's creation... sometimes they're even created to BE C and D listers. Just because BKV made him doesn't mean he'll stick around in the book or have a major role if he is in the book.
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Well, seeing as how BKV isn't known for creating a new character for no reason, I HIGHLY doubt he'd do that. Especially one with as much potential as Xavin.

Nico and Karolina are not going to be a couple. Nico has not once shown anything resembling lesbian behavior. I've heard numerous people say that her behavior reminds them of people who date loads of people on the opposite sex to try and hide their sexuality, which is bull.
She has dated one guy in the entire series, been seduced by a Vampire (who was able to seduce Karolina), made a stupid mistake kissing Chase, and did *something* with Victor, leading her to admit to her problem: running to the nearest guy when she is scared or confused.
 
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Iceshadow said:
Also Excelsior, though he didn't create them.
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Exactly. Heck, if their own title takes off, he'll be responsible for taking C/D list characters and making them A/B list characters.
 
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much like he did cloak and dagger. does anyone think that Cloak and Dagger would be in House of M and Civil War if they weren't in Runaways Volume 1 and 2?

Xavin will work. He/She has plenty of potential. At least as much as Hulkling.

And no one from Runaways will go off into obscurity. It is its own little universe, in which BKV is god. Other writers know not to randomly include Xavin, and no one will dictate Xavin going away but BKV. And if he does that, it'll be good.
 
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Dunno. Still think Nico's gayer than that pic of Alf that keeps popping up...

Also, you don't seem to realize that just because the guy created a character, he can also push his own creation into obscurity. He created the New Pride and then two of the three disappeared into the woodwork after that particular arc. He brought Xavin to the comic and if the character ceases to be useful, he can get rid of him/her/it as well and it might be nothing more "good" than then standard 'couple breaks up and the non-team member wanders off'.
 
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roguefan said:
jtg3885 said:
Nico needs to just get horizontal with Karolina and get it over with.
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Just get Skotti to draw the art for you.
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BRILLIANT!
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jtg3885 said:
Also, you don't seem to realize that just because the guy created a character, he can also push his own creation into obscurity. He created the New Pride and then two of the three disappeared into the woodwork after that particular arc. He brought Xavin to the comic and if the character ceases to be useful, he can get rid of him/her/it as well and it might be nothing more "good" than then standard 'couple breaks up and the non-team member wanders off'.
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The New Pride members were not Runaways, though, which is what Xavin is now. Knowing BKV's previous work on Runaways, I doubt he would introduce a new Runaway with as much potential as Xavin and up making him wander off to live in D-list land.

I do think a break up will occur eventually, but BKV wouldn't do it because Xavin ceased to be useful. He didn't kill off Alex and Gert because they ceased to be useful; rather, because their deaths would have a major importance in the story.

And so if/when Xavin leaves, I doubt it will be to continue on as a D-lister.
 
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Sacred&Profane said:
The New Pride members were not Runaways, though, which is what Xavin is now. Knowing BKV's previous work on Runaways, I doubt he would introduce a new Runaway with as much potential as Xavin and up making him wander off to live in D-list land.

I do think a break up will occur eventually, but BKV wouldn't do it because Xavin ceased to be useful. He didn't kill off Alex and Gert because they ceased to be useful; rather, because their deaths would have a major importance in the story.

And so if/when Xavin leaves, I doubt it will be to continue on as a D-lister.
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Xavin, like the New Pride, is not a character. He's a plot device. When the plot runs out, there's no longer a use for the character.
 
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jtg3885 said:
Xavin, like the New Pride, is not a character. He's a plot device.
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Xavin is still a developing character. Everytime we see him, something is added on.
What does it take for Xavin to be a character, as opposed to a plot device?

When the plot runs out, there's no longer a use for the character.
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What plot is that? Acting as a foil for a nonexistant Nico/Karolina relationship?
Please elaborate on the role Xavin plays as a plot device.
 
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The whole Xavin/Karolina arranged marriage bit pulled Karolina out of the Runaways. That marked a decidedly downward shift in Nico's moods and further attention whoring like her kiss with Chase. The whole mess from that coming out allowed Molly to be taken, setting it up so Xavin and Karolina could make their grand return and help save the day.

At which point, Xavin was established as a character similar to Seven of Nine from ST: Voyager, except he HAS no inner humanity to discover. He's probably more a robot than Victor, trying his best to be humanesque to make Karolina happy because the whole 'arranged marriage' bit that was drilled into his head makes him incapable of contemplating ideas like "Hey, why don't I try and find my way back to the rest of the Skrull out there. Even if my home is gone, there are others of my species out there.".

Eventually, he'll either be shifted to a human personality in a shapeshifting alien body or exit stage left when BKV gets tired of playing with the "trying to be human" aspect.
 
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Brian K. Vaughan said:
The Powell said:
Anyway, my point is this: the kids having sex to get over Gert's death doesn't really work for me, as everydayman elucidated (thanks).
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Who said the kids had sex?!?! Get your mind out of the gutter!
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From the #19 discussion on BKV's message boards. Just worth a thought, I think.
 
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