Runaways Vol. 2 #1-24 (Brian K. Vaughan/Adrian Alphona) (spoilers)

icemastertron said:
Oh, it's him. Just wait and see. :wink:


:D

What are you all of a sudden? Vaughan's love buddy? Just because you know how to spell his name better than most people on this site, doesn't mean you know his deepest, most sordid secrets!

Wow. Sorry about that, I kinda went all Hulk. Tore my pants and everything. Tsk.
 
Fuzzy Birds said:
What are you all of a sudden? Vaughan's love buddy? Just because you know how to spell his name better than most people on this site, doesn't mean you know his deepest, most sordid secrets!

Wow. Sorry about that, I kinda went all Hulk. Tore my pants and everything. Tsk.
But seriously, think about it. If anyone wonders how he came back, one possiblity is Nico's spell. Say it actually worked, but just he never showed up wherever she thought he would. Or the other guys at that room could have brought him back. We may not have a face, but the body matches.

I'm not the only one who thinks its him. Others know what I'm "on". :wink:
 
icemastertron said:
But seriously, think about it. If anyone wonders how he came back, one possiblity is Nico's spell. Say it actually worked, but just he never showed up wherever she thought he would. Or the other guys at that room could have brought him back. We may not have a face, but the body matches.

I'm not the only one who thinks its him. Others know what I'm "on". :wink:

Yeah, I suppose. Because you know, there's only one black person in the Marvel Universe. :wink:
 
Fuzzy Birds said:
Yeah, I suppose. Because you know, there's only one black person in the Marvel Universe. :wink:
You know what I mean. Compare his body now to volume 1's. Looks like we have someone in denial.

And come on. He all the reasons to do what he did. He doesnt want the others guys to know hes back. So what he does? He disguises himself to 'spy' on them. See how they are now. And reports back on the team he's working with to let them know what he found out, and they can figure out a plan on how to stop them. And you cant forget about "Long Live the Pride.."

There's so many things that makes it him!
 
icemastertron said:
You know what I mean. Compare his body now to volume 1's. Looks like we have someone in denial.

And come on. He all the reasons to do what he did. He doesnt want the others guys to know hes back. So what he does? He disguises himself to 'spy' on them. See how they are now. And reports back on the team he's working with to let them know what he found out, and they can figure out a plan on how to stop them. And you cant forget about "Long Live the Pride."

There's so many things that makes it him!

Which is exactly why it may not be him. Think about it, the reveal is likely to be a huge thing, would Vaughan really make such a small matter of it by only showing a black body? It's obvious that everyone would jump to the conclusion of Alex at the sight of a black person working with the Pride, so why didn't Vaughan just show his face too? Because it likely isn't him, and Vaughan is purposefully leading us the wrong way.

Of course, I'm not saying you're wrong, and I admit it could very well be him, I just can't see how you can be so sure.
 
Fuzzy Birds said:
Which is exactly why it may not be him. Think about it, the reveal is likely to be a huge thing, would Vaughan really make such a small matter of it by only showing a black body? It's obvious that everyone would jump to the conclusion of Alex at the sight of a black person working with the Pride, so why didn't Vaughan just show his face too? Because it likely isn't him, and Vaughan is purposefully leading us the wrong way.

Of course, I'm not saying you're wrong, and I admit it could very well be him, I just can't see how you can be so sure.
Because Vaughan is such a damn tease.


It may not be him, but the clues are right there. I'll stick with it being him until there's actually SOMETHING that gives it "saying" it's not him.


And I want Alphona back!!! :cry:
 
icemastertron said:
Because Vaughan is such a damn tease.

Exactly. Look, Vaughan knew that almost everyone reading that comic would IMMEDIATELY jump to the conclusion that it was Alex. Now, if it really was Alex, why not just reveal it there? Otherwise the real reveal in however many issues would be completely anti climactic because everyone knew it was him anyway. As an exercise in dramatic writing, it doesn't make sense. Unless.... it's a red herring.
 
Fuzzy Birds said:
Exactly. Look, Vaughan knew that almost everyone reading that comic would IMMEDIATELY jump to the conclusion that it was Alex. Now, if it really was Alex, why not just reveal it there? Otherwise the real reveal in however many issues would be completely anti climactic because everyone knew it was him anyway. As an exercise in dramatic writing, it doesn't make sense. Unless.... it's a red herring.
Or maybe he wants you to think THAT. A double-bluff! :wink:
 
icemastertron said:
Or maybe he wants you to think THAT. A double-bluff! :wink:

Alright, you've silenced me. But believe me, you will hear from me again. If it's the last thing I ever do!

*cackles mischievously*
 
Definitely believe that it's Alex. But I'm willing to bet there's a possibility of a physical difference in him. It would be really cool to see something that makes him actually look evil... like some kind of scar. Or really just the fact that he showed some skin and the "Long Live the Pride" statement was really all everyone needed to be like that's just so ****ing cool. If he showed the face it would have lost something in the revealation. The delivery was very genius.
 
TheManWithoutFear said:
Definitely believe that it's Alex. But I'm willing to bet there's a possibility of a physical difference in him. It would be really cool to see something that makes him actually look evil... like some kind of scar. Or really just the fact that he showed some skin and the "Long Live the Pride" statement was really all everyone needed to be like that's just so ****ing cool. If he showed the face it would have lost something in the revealation. The delivery was very genius.
'Nuff said. 8)
 
the art doesn't work for me, but for the type of arc thats written it fits in pretty good. and yes we don't know if its alex for sure or not, but its hinted in V's style. (not even going to try spelling his name)look at the twist and tuns in Y: the last man... who is this miss M?

overall its a good start, makes it intersting to say the least
 
Okay, raise your hands, True Believers, if you've either read or watched A Clockwork Orange -- the Burgess novel, or the Kubrick film, doesn't matter.

If you love it as much as I do, then surely, you would have noticed the sly bit of foreshadowing in Runaways #6 -- when "Chamber" is waiting outside the building where the fight against "Doom" and Ultron is taking place, he says something about standing aside and letting "his droogs" do all the work, a reference to the fake 'Nadsat' slang from A Clockwork Orange. So, what is the name of the protagonist from the story again? And more importantly, which character was established in Runaways Vol. 1 as being a fan of twisted British pop culture, like The Prisoner? ;)

Please PLEASE tell me I'm not reading too much into this little detail! :D
 
compound said:
Okay, raise your hands, True Believers, if you've either read or watched A Clockwork Orange -- the Burgess novel, or the Kubrick film, doesn't matter.

If you love it as much as I do, then surely, you would have noticed the sly bit of foreshadowing in Runaways #6 -- when "Chamber" is waiting outside the building where the fight against "Doom" and Ultron is taking place, he says something about standing aside and letting "his droogs" do all the work, a reference to the fake 'Nadsat' slang from A Clockwork Orange. So, what is the name of the protagonist from the story again? And more importantly, which character was established in Runaways Vol. 1 as being a fan of twisted British pop culture, like The Prisoner? ;)

Please PLEASE tell me I'm not reading too much into this little detail! :D
Ha! The coincidences pile up, don't they.
 
I was genuinely surprised to see Karolina leave. I'm glad she did. Not because I disliked her, I liked her, but because it's actually a change.

And I'm glad Vik is still on the team.

compound said:
Okay, raise your hands, True Believers, if you've either read or watched A Clockwork Orange -- the Burgess novel, or the Kubrick film, doesn't matter.

If you love it as much as I do, then surely, you would have noticed the sly bit of foreshadowing in Runaways #6 -- when "Chamber" is waiting outside the building where the fight against "Doom" and Ultron is taking place, he says something about standing aside and letting "his droogs" do all the work, a reference to the fake 'Nadsat' slang from A Clockwork Orange. So, what is the name of the protagonist from the story again? And more importantly, which character was established in Runaways Vol. 1 as being a fan of twisted British pop culture, like The Prisoner? ;)

Please PLEASE tell me I'm not reading too much into this little detail! :D

GOOD CATCH
 
Bass said:
I was genuinely surprised to see Karolina leave. I'm glad she did. Not because I disliked her, I liked her, but because it's actually a change.
I kinda saw it coming, actually -- when Future-Gert first arrives in issue #1, she mentioned something like "Karolina is still here, so this must be 2004".

For some reason, that line stuck with me, when I read the solicitations for #8, about Karolina needing to make the 'ultimate sacrifice' for the group (or soemthing along those lines). First thing that came to mind: she'll be off to find her home-planet.

Incidentally, her sudden departure really makes me feel like I'm reading classic New Mutants issues (circa the Demon Bear stuff), considering the racial and gender diversity of the kids, and how fragile their memebership of the group is.
 

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