Avengers New Avengers discussion (#1-20; spoilers)

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No...not the Sentry series. I was talking about the New Avengers storyline.

Frankly I'm not interested in the Sentry. He just sounds so boring.





Now Echo???? That's a character you can get behind and wanna read about.
 
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Victor Von Doom said:
No...not the Sentry series. I was talking about the New Avengers storyline.
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So was he. But he was mentioning something that happened in the new Sentry mini to your:

Victor Von Doom said:
It wasn't really him.....it was his subconcious monster.
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Victor Von Doom said:
Now Echo???? That's a character you can get behind and wanna read about.
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Hahahahaha!




..wait, were you serious?
 
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I loved the issue. The art was great. It was a very intese issue. I felt bad for Alpha Flight.

B+
 
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thee great one said:
I felt bad for Alpha Flight.
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Pfft. They deserved it.
 
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thee great one said:
I never liked them but that was harsh.
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No it wasn't. All B and C lister heroes deserve to get their asses handed to them. It why they're there.

It's like watching "That 70s Show" and having Fez speak normal, not be weird and get the girl. It just ain't natural.
 
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I feel sorry for Alpha Flight.

If they'd died as heroes, if this was their final battle - fine.

But I just think it's despicable. Luke Cage becomes a staple of the MU - why? Because Bendis likes him. But, arbitrarily, he does not like Alpha Flight, Shocker, Rhino, Omega Red, Killer Shrike, and a whole host of other characters, so he's quite content to just kill them off to create 'jeopardy'.

Yay.
 
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Bass said:
I feel sorry for Alpha Flight.

If they'd died as heroes, if this was their final battle - fine.

But I just think it's despicable. Luke Cage becomes a staple of the MU - why? Because Bendis likes him. But, arbitrarily, he does not like Alpha Flight, Shocker, Rhino, Omega Red, Killer Shrike, and a whole host of other characters, so he's quite content to just kill them off to create 'jeopardy'.

Yay.
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I know. It seems biased. I loved Carnage.....
 
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roguefan said:
If it was Millar killing off Alpha Flight, would you be happy then?
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No. I got pissed off when he killed Northstar and Spot for a laugh.
 
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Bass said:
No. I got pissed off when he killed Northstar and Spot for a laugh.
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I would go into why I don't think he killed Northstar for a laugh but:

1.) I don't give two ****s about him.

2.) It's not for this thread.


Only thing that sucks is that these guys will be back. Dammit.
 
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Cmon' Luke Cage deserved to be turned into what Bendis turned him into. And it wasn't because "Bendis liked him". Bendis needed a hero on level with Cage for Daredevil. He took a weak *** character and used him properly. A lot of what he's done with Cage has made sense.
 
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TheManWithoutFear said:
Cmon' Luke Cage deserved to be turned into what Bendis turned him into. And it wasn't because "Bendis liked him". Bendis needed a hero on level with Cage for Daredevil. He took a weak *** character and used him properly. A lot of what he's done with Cage has made sense.
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I agree.
 
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TheManWithoutFear said:
Cmon' Luke Cage deserved to be turned into what Bendis turned him into. And it wasn't because "Bendis liked him". Bendis needed a hero on level with Cage for Daredevil. He took a weak *** character and used him properly. A lot of what he's done with Cage has made sense.
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Exactly. He did it with Cage.

So he can do it to all the others.

He chooses not to. Instead of either treating them with love (as he has done with Cage) or ignoring them completely, he seems compelled to just blow 'em up.

It's cruel.

Because those characters, to someone, mean something to them. And to piss over them with such contempt... I just find it sad, and a little bit sick.
 
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Bass said:
Exactly. He did it with Cage.

So he can do it to all the others.

He chooses not to. Instead of either treating them with love (as he has done with Cage) or ignoring them completely, he seems compelled to just blow 'em up.

It's cruel.

Because those characters, to someone, mean something to them. And to piss over them with such contempt... I just find it sad, and a little bit sick.
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I agree 100%
 
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Bass said:
Exactly. He did it with Cage.

So he can do it to all the others.

He chooses not to. Instead of either treating them with love (as he has done with Cage) or ignoring them completely, he seems compelled to just blow 'em up.

It's cruel.

Because those characters, to someone, mean something to them. And to piss over them with such contempt... I just find it sad, and a little bit sick.
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He doesn't have use for the characters in the stories he's writing. He can't make every character cool. And I'm sorry "death" should never be an option to some people, but it should happen. It makes stories a bit more interesting. I don't think Carnage is gone... but for the sake of argument, let's say he is... Pick up and read the issue again. Carnage's demise is still awesome. What do you want? Bendis to make up some obscure villain just for the kill or for the kill to not exist in the first place? I say it's fine the way it is.

Shock Value at the expense of characters who can't hold their own titles, is cool.
 
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Not only did he do it with Cage but also with Spider-Woman. So it's his own prefrence that it is. I am two sided towards this.

I mean he killing off charaters that other writers could make cool.

but at the same time. People should die.
 
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