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Kevin Fiege on the possible Black Widow solo film:
I think the idea would be great. We've got various outlines and ideas of where to take that. As Scarlett already said, there's a big element that explores her back story in an upcoming Marvel feature. The question really is, 'When will we take her out of the ensemble and have her do her own thing?' As you saw in ['Captain America: The Winter Soldier'], as you'll see in 'Avengers: Age of Ultron,' she's really the key to so much of the plot development.

I'm so pumped. Even if they don't ever get around to doing the solo movie, I'm excited to see her backstory in Avengers 2. And I hope Hawkeye is tied in with it.

EDIT: There's a whole thread about this movie [thread=13017]here[/thread].
 
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I keep thinking about how huge Phase 3 is going to be. We have Ant-Man Captain America 3 Thor 3 Whatever films that aren't announced are Agents of SHIELD season two (assuming) Agent Carter season one (assuming) Daredevil Jessica Jones Iron Fist Luke Cage The Defenders The tie-in comics One-Shots That's a LOT of stuff

Yeah, the TV shows certainly pad out Phase 2 significantly, and will do the same for Phase 3. And AoS will definitely get a second season, even if it hasn't been officially announced yet. Even if the ratings continue to fall, I think Disney/Marvel/ABC will keep it around due to it acting as a weekly advertisement and tie-in for the MCU films.
 
Kevin Feige gave an interesting peek into how they're adapting Dr. Strange for the MCU:

"Doctor Strange needs to be a Ditko/Kubrick/Miyazaki/The Matrix mind-trip

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=96050

I like that approach, specifically how he says advanced enough science appears as magic to those ignorant of its specifics, which is a thread first established in the first Thor film.
 
Ugh. We already have magic magic. Loki alone brought is magic.
 
Ugh. We already have magic magic. Loki alone brought is magic.

There's no reason to simply classify it as magic when Thor already outright stated Asgardian technology seems like magic simply because humans don't understand that science/tech yet.

Loki's disappearing/double thing can simply be hologram tech or time/space portal hopping. After all Loki has said he knows all the secret ways in and out of Asgard.

That isn't to say ALL "magic" is science in the MCU. It's entirely possible Dr. Strange will use sorcery to traverse realms, etc. I do like Feige's statement about Strange being a man of science and then becoming a man of mysticism, the character walking that line between scientific explanation and mystical, unexplainable sorcery.

Yep, and his mother Frigga who teached him... plus Lorelei.

Frigga likely taught him the manipulation of advanced tech/science which appears as magic... but is just tech/science beyond our understanding. And Lorelei's powers could merely be advanced manipulation of pheromones or the male sex drive/desire impulse. Technically it's all just chemistry.
 
Its now confirmed that Cap 3 will indeed be the next MCU movie after Ant-Man's release in July, 2015, going directly up against Batman vs. Superman. Ballsy move, Marvel, very ballsy. But given the hype and critical acclaim CA-TWS is getting from early reviews, I expect Cap may well become MCU's next poster boy after Iron Man, or at least somewhat comparably.

Also, it's revealed ABC has received the script for the Agent Carter pilot, but it hasn't been green lit yet. It's also being planned as a 13 episode series as opposed to 22 episodes, and would start around the same time as the Agent Carter One Shot (possibly even before/during/or just after those events), starting in 1946, and that Howard Stark would appear regularly.

I suspect ABC want to see AoS's ratings through the next month or so before giving it the green light, which normally would be tough to pull off on a regular length 22 episode season. But with only 13 episodes, that allows them to put off making a decision for awhile, possibly setting up Agent Carter as a mid-season premiere (sometime between Jan/Feb 2015).
 
There's no reason to simply classify it as magic when Thor already outright stated Asgardian technology seems like magic simply because humans don't understand that science/tech yet.

Loki's disappearing/double thing can simply be hologram tech or time/space portal hopping. After all Loki has said he knows all the secret ways in and out of Asgard.

That isn't to say ALL "magic" is science in the MCU. It's entirely possible Dr. Strange will use sorcery to traverse realms, etc. I do like Feige's statement about Strange being a man of science and then becoming a man of mysticism, the character walking that line between scientific explanation and mystical, unexplainable sorcery.



Frigga likely taught him the manipulation of advanced tech/science which appears as magic... but is just tech/science beyond our understanding. And Lorelei's powers could merely be advanced manipulation of pheromones or the male sex drive/desire impulse. Technically it's all just chemistry.

Man, you sure do know how to liven up a party.
 
I guess it really all depends on your philosophy of science. Is the idea of naturalism inherent in your understanding of science? If so, then anything supernatural doesn't fit into the category. But the presupposition that everything MUST have a natural cause is exactly that, a presupposition - it's a worldview, a philosophy. Science is just all about making observations of the world around you, interpreting those observations, and then drawing conclusions to explain the observations (experiment and repeat). Our worldview enters the process in the interpretation stage. You always process and interpret your observations through the lens of your base presuppositions. That's just the way the world works. If your presupposition is that everything has a natural cause, you will exclude all explanations that are outside of that box. If, however, you're open to the idea of the supernatural, that also shapes the conclusions you reach.

Now I'm not suggesting that we revert to the ignorance of "We don't understand it... God must have done it" or "It's magic, we don't have to explain it." But the early scientists set out to understand the world because they believed in God, which gave them confidence that the world would be orderly and not random. Belief in the supernatural doesn't have to lead to ignorance.

But I digress. I don't believe in magical powers any more than I believe that being bitten by a radioactive spider would give you spider powers. My point is, I don't get the mindset that science only has to do with natural causes. I think that's an unfortunate mindset to have in real life, but it's ludicrous to hold on to in a fictional universe that is the home to advanced alien civilizations from different dimensions, mutants, and super soldiers who survived being frozen in ice for 70 years.
 
I guess it really all depends on your philosophy of science. Is the idea of naturalism inherent in your understanding of science? If so, then anything supernatural doesn't fit into the category. But the presupposition that everything MUST have a natural cause is exactly that, a presupposition - it's a worldview, a philosophy. Science is just all about making observations of the world around you, interpreting those observations, and then drawing conclusions to explain the observations (experiment and repeat). Our worldview enters the process in the interpretation stage. You always process and interpret your observations through the lens of your base presuppositions. That's just the way the world works. If your presupposition is that everything has a natural cause, you will exclude all explanations that are outside of that box. If, however, you're open to the idea of the supernatural, that also shapes the conclusions you reach. Now I'm not suggesting that we revert to the ignorance of "We don't understand it... God must have done it" or "It's magic, we don't have to explain it." But the early scientists set out to understand the world because they believed in God, which gave them confidence that the world would be orderly and not random. Belief in the supernatural doesn't have to lead to ignorance. But I digress. I don't believe in magical powers any more than I believe that being bitten by a radioactive spider would give you spider powers. My point is, I don't get the mindset that science only has to do with natural causes. I think that's an unfortunate mindset to have in real life, but it's ludicrous to hold on to in a fictional universe that is the home to advanced alien civilizations from different dimensions, mutants, and super soldiers who survived being frozen in ice for 70 years.

It's more the idea that advanced tech can seem like magic to more primitive societies.
 
Right, and I get that and I think that's legit. But it doesn't mean that there CAN'T be "real magic" in the universe.

Fair enough. Given the plans to do a Dr. Strange film it would seem likely they'll do so.

Which already exists along with ACTUAL magic.

Technically it's arguable whether "magic" exists in the MCU, or is just that advanced tech I was referring to, like in Loki's case. Do we indeed know it's magic, or just advanced tech/techniques that allow him to do what he does?

So far there's no proof magic exists in the MCU, other than Loki, which could easily be tech, that's what I'm saying.
 
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Fair enough. Given the plans to do a Dr. Strange film it would seem likely they'll do so.



Technically it's arguable whether "magic" exists in the MCU, or is just that advanced tech I was referring to, like in Loki's case. Do we indeed know it's magic, or just advanced tech/techniques that allow him to do what he does?

So far there's no proof magic exists in the MCU, other than Loki, which could easily be tech, that's what I'm saying.

And I'm saying you're a killjoy :p
 
Finally an answer of Will C. Pilgrim :)

@willgrem Hello Mr. Pilgrim, can you light our lantern about CA:Homecoming, CA:TWS Infinite, GotG:Infinite? Are they MCU canon or Inspired?

@Aztlan1984 'Homecoming' = inspired, Infinite Comics are canon
 
I figured as much. I wish they print the infinite as single issues or there will be a Road to Avengers: Age of Ultron book.
 
Captain France: Thank you for following up.

After just watching Marvel Studios: Assembling a Universe, reading this gets me more pumped.
 
Finally an answer of Will C. Pilgrim :)

Nice, I'll go ahead and remove Homecoming. Thanks for the info, Cap!

I figured as much. I wish they print the infinite as single issues or there will be a Road to Avengers: Age of Ultron book.

The CA-TWS Infinite comic is included in the CA-TWS Prelude TPB. Not sure about the GotG Infinite comic.
 
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