Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline

Since The Avengers, there were many time changes that happened (in a wrong way), I don't know who made this, as Will Pilgrim never answered my question about the released MCU Timeline.

It occurs that there are now two timelines: the one in movies you can't change (except if you do a new edited version like Star Wars) and the one appearing in the artbook, the novels and in the paper bonus of the Phase One Blu-Ray.

For example, you have here the Tony Stark File appearing in The Avengers (deleted scene) and the one of the paper bonus of the Phase One:

Deleted Scene: http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/955010Starkfiledeletedscene.jpg
Memorabilia Phase One: http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/422070TheAvengersfileStark.jpg

As you can see, the Tony Stark's date of birth was changed (I don't know why?).

Eh, I always presumed Tony was born around 1969/1970 based on his appearance (as a kid) in the footage showing his dad doing the thing for the 1974 Stark Expo (him removing the building model and his dad yelling at him to put it back). So I think that works, even though the dates are different, the year is still the same.

Same with Coulson's birth date:
ID SHIELD card in The Avengers: http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/62552719640708TheAvengers2012movieprops01.jpg
Memorabilia Phase One: http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/439692SHEILDclassifiedCoulson.jpg

They changed the date of Steve Rogers becoming a super-soldier to 1943 too, creating an incoherence as the War bonds campaign begins in 1942 and the Super-Soldier program happens between 1923 to 1942:

Operation Rebirth in CA:TFA: http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/53639019231942CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger2011movieprops05.jpg
Poster in CA:TFA: http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/9334521942CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger2011movieprops01.jpg
War bonds in CA:TFA: http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/11917319420509CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger2011movieprops03.jpg
Memorabilia Phase One: http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/541134TheAvengersSteveRogersfile.jpg
File bonus on dvd/blu-ray: http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/144045SSappCaptAmerica.jpg

Is that a 5th Element poster? Weird (but great movie...always hoped they'd get around to the sequel).

As for the dates, I'd have to suggest most of that stuff is non-canon since it either doesn't appear in the movie itself, or is not clearly seen enough to be taken as fact. Its likely just a case of the prop makers not being given specific info in terms of the timeline.

Its clearly shown Red Skull obtains the Tesseract in March, 1942, then we get a cut to Steve attempting to join the Army. I just assume more than a year has passed between those two scenes, to place Steve's super-soldier procedure in mid-1943. In the film itself, its shown on his draft card (4F) after the alley fight where he gets his butt kicked to occur June 14, 1943, and the super-soldier experiment/transformation to occur on June 24 (or thereabouts) based on the newspaper date (though the day of the week doesn't line up correctly, but I guess this can be explained as the MCU being an alternate reality... gotta use comic book logic there ;) ).

I had placed it in 1942 originally based on the First Vengeance comic dating those events as such, but apparently thats incorrect (have to take the info from the films over the official comics).


DIrishB: I've made a mistake about the Grand Prix Historique de Monaco.

The Grand Prix de Monaco happens each years, but the Grand Prix Historique de Monaco happens every two years: 2008, 2010, 2012, etc

In 2008: May 10-11
In 2010: May 01-02
In 2012: May 12-13

It means that Ivan Vanko made his Whiplash Mark 1 in more than a year (may 2008 to beginning of 2010).
It can be possible, as the Vanko lived in total poverty and find the adequate technology would be a challenge.
It could explain too why there is a Time: Person of the Year (2009, december) cover on his wall.

This is a good point, however, with the first Iron Man definitely occurring in 2008 due to the on-screen date, and the "6 months later" tag at the beginning of Iron Man 2 (which I already pushed another 6 months further--explained by Vanko building his armor over a course of 6 months--I'm not sure that works). That'd mean pushing Iron Man 2, Thor, and Incredible Hulk to 2010 and Avengers to 2011, which isn't a huge deal, but kind of ignores the on-screen time jump of 6 months later. However, I think your logic is sound, and as you said the December, 2009 Time magazine also dates IM2 occurring sometime after, so I'll change those dates.

Good eye, sir! The massive amount of info you've provided has made this timeline much better and more accurate.





I've also updated for the Thor adaptation comic.
 
Ok, some pretty major revisions done to the timeline based on Captain France's invaluable suggestions, as well as adding the Thor comic adaptation, as well as some other minor cosmetic changes.

Captain France, whenever you get a chance, I'd love it if you could take a look at my dates/placement for Iron Man 2, Thor, Incredible Hulk to make sure I've got the time spans accurate in your opinion. I think I do, but its possible I may be off by a day or two here and there.

I'm still searching for the Iron Man 2 Adaptation comic so I can add it to the timeline. My LCS didn't order it and I was going to buy them off Ebay, but then realized they're going to be collected along with the Iron Man 3 Prelude comics, so figured I'd just wait for that TPB--which I think comes out sometime in February--once I get my hands on it I'll update for those. Not a major deal since its merely adapting the film, which is already laid out on the timeline, but I'm a stickler for details and completion. I should really look into medication for my Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. ;)
 
Heh, I'm very glad to help, you're a sort of timeline expert on the net (I used alot your Ultimates, Indiana Jones, and this one).

I'm searching the IM2 adaptation too.. nothing on the net :(

I've found a way to have blu-ray quality movies (original versions, and not the french ones I had) to take screencaps of all time elements I see.
I'll regroup them by movie and create a zip for each folder.
I begin again with Iron Man. Next TIH, IM2, Thor, Cap and the Avengers.

As you said, the props are not always a good thing: the Chronicle newspaper, Tony uses at the end of Iron Man, is dated of November 30, 2007.
 
Captain France, where do you find all those pictures?

Some are on props sites (yourprops.com is a good one for badges and newspapers), other are on marvel.wikia (see earth-199999 and each gallery of character).

And for the original newspapers used and edited in movies, I write the title of an article of it that is not related to the MCU, like that I can find the date of the newspaper.


I have made a calculation about the asgardian age, what do you think:

- Thor and Loki born in 965.

- The movie happens in 2010.

- Dakota Goyo was 12 when he played the young Thor.

- Chris Hemsworth were 27 when he played Thor.


2010 - 965 = 1045 years

Then 1045 terrestrial years = 27 asgardian years

(1045 x 12) / 27 = 464,44

12 asgardian years = 464,44 terrestrial years

965 + 464,44 = 1429,44

Then, the flashback happens approximately in 1429.


But if we look at the false Thor ID card, we can see that he is 26 (born in 1984).
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/65750506Day2ThorfakeID19841121.jpg

(1045 x 12) / 26 = 482,30

965 + 482,3 = 1447,3

Then, the flashback happens approximately in 1447.

Conclusion, in all case, we can say the flashback happens during the 15th century.
Another thing that can play in favor of this, is that Odin says Asgardians are now remembered as legends, as many years passed since the war against Jotuns.
 
I thought about that (the Asgardian aging process), but for simplicity's same I just assume that they age somewhat normally compared to humans through childhood and puberty and once reaching maturity their aging process slows to near immortality (which we know they're not due to Odin being able to be killed in Thor and Loki's reference to Thor in Avengers before he drops him out of the Helicarrier in the prison cell designed for Hulk).

I may be incorrect in that assumption, but I like to think if they did age differently from humans they'd have shown a date like in the 965 AD portion to establish the difference between human and Asgardian aging processes.

As for Odin's mention of them as legends, this could still apply only 10 years or so later not because of how much time passed, but due to their power levels and the amazing things they did in the war (as witnessed by humans).

"History became legend. Legend became myth." - The Lord of the Rings

Of course that quote could easily apply to your theory as well as mine.
 
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Ok, updated for IM3 Prelude #2, will update for the second issue of the Thor adaptation once thats released in the coming weeks, and I'll eventually get the Iron Man 2 comic adaptation updated once I get around to buying the Iron Man 3 Prelude TPB (in which its collected also with the IM3 Prelude...).

And then I'll be done till Iron Man 3 comes out. That said, I think Iron Man 3 will occur around December (or about six months after Avengers) of 2011. I can't place it exactly, but I remember reading or hearing it occurs 6 months after Avengers, I believe Kevin Feige said it, and supposedly there's a scene with a large Christmas tree in front of a company (can't remember if its Stark Industries, or maybe AIM or another company), which would imply it taking place around December. That also reaffirms Captain France's suggestion of Avengers occurring in May.

We'll see for sure in a few months.
 
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Hey did you see the Ant-Man footage? It was finally leaked and put online by someone.
I can't give you a link, because each videos put online are deleted after some minutes/hours by Disney.

Here are some screens I've done from it:

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/767709001.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/159744002.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/521627003.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/411119004.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/379496005.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/850017006.jpg


Not really off-topic but I bought the Avengers bracelet from Colantotte, it's a really nice thing and I was not a believer of the heal thing the bracelet does, but I can say that I have no more pain in my back and no more headache since I wear it.
Did someone else tried this thing? Did it worked for you?
 
Hey did you see the Ant-Man footage? It was finally leaked and put online by someone.
I can't give you a link, because each videos put online are deleted after some minutes/hours by Disney.

Here are some screens I've done from it:

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/767709001.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/159744002.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/521627003.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/411119004.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/379496005.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/850017006.jpg

Not really off-topic but I bought the Avengers bracelet from Colantotte, it's a really nice thing and I was not a believer of the heal thing the bracelet does, but I can say that I have no more pain in my back and no more headache since I wear it.
Did someone else tried this thing? Did it worked for you?

I did see the Ant-Man test footage. Can't believe it took this long for it to hit the Internet. Still, it's an interesting and proven to work in the special effects sense. Really looking forward to that one.

As for the bracelet, I believe it can have beneficial effects. The magnetic/polarized bracelet thing has been big in the golf industry for decades, and I'd been working at golf courses and talking to players that tried them and usually noticed improvements. The science behind it is sound, though not sure if it's proven. Either way, glad it's working for you!


As for the timeline, I'm still in the process of trying to get around to remembering to order the Iron Man 3 Prelude TPB so I can get the Iron Man 2 adaptation broken up and finished. That's been annoying me for months. Then it'll be Iron Man 3 getting more definitively placed (based on info in the movie implying the month or time of year it takes place), and then the Thor - The Dark World Prelude comics will be added in summer as they're released, and finally Thor - The Dark World hopefully more definitively added. Of course neither Iron Man 3 or Thor - The Dark World won't be broken up and added as DVD chapters until those are released in late 2013 (IM3) and early-mid 2014 (Thor - TDW).

Just in case you're wondering what's going on with this timeline for the next year. ;)
 
Hey did you see the Ant-Man footage? It was finally leaked and put online by someone.
I can't give you a link, because each videos put online are deleted after some minutes/hours by Disney.

Here are some screens I've done from it:

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/767709001.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/159744002.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/521627003.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/411119004.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/379496005.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/850017006.jpg

Not really off-topic but I bought the Avengers bracelet from Colantotte, it's a really nice thing and I was not a believer of the heal thing the bracelet does, but I can say that I have no more pain in my back and no more headache since I wear it.
Did someone else tried this thing? Did it worked for you?

Are those last 3 pics supposed to be of antman
 
Are those last 3 pics supposed to be of antman

Yes.
The test footage was shown at the 2012 Comic Con, to test the shrink effect.
There is no actor yet to play Ant-Man, and I think this footage will not appear in the movie.
The costume could change too (it's been a year, all isn't solid yet).
 
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