Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 3)

I think season 1 of Born Again will end prior CA: BNW, in March or early April of 2027.
 
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SoyaCS said:
Which I don't really understand because from a non biased standpoint the TVA comics themselves don't seem to think of themselves as canon.
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TVA comic:
-A sequel to Loki S2.
-Officially licensed.
-Doesn't contradict.
-Written by Loki writer.
-Approved by Kevin Feige.

MCU fans:
-TVA comic, which is a Loki sequel by Marvel, isn't canon to Marvel's Loki series.

Hm...
 
Pro Bot said:
TVA comic:
-A sequel to Loki S2.
-Officially licensed.
-Doesn't contradict.
-Written by Loki writer.
-Approved by Kevin Feige.

MCU fans:
-TVA comic, which is a Loki sequel by Marvel, isn't canon to Marvel's Loki series.

Hm...
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Excpet the comic writers have stated that this is just their interpretation of the aftermath of Loki Season 2.

Kevin Feige has stated that the TVA comic is using the MCU how the MCU used comics as inspiration and now this comics is doing the same.
 
Pro Bot said:
TVA comic:
-A sequel to Loki S2.
-Officially licensed.
-Doesn't contradict.
-Written by Loki writer.
-Approved by Kevin Feige.

MCU fans:
-TVA comic, which is a Loki sequel by Marvel, isn't canon to Marvel's Loki series.

Hm...
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It would be cool if it was canon but that doesn't seem to be the intention of the TVA comics, though the canoncity of the comic is neither left nor right
 
Pro Bot said:
TVA comic:
-A sequel to Loki S2.
-Officially licensed.
-Doesn't contradict.
-Written by Loki writer.
-Approved by Kevin Feige.

MCU fans:
-TVA comic, which is a Loki sequel by Marvel, isn't canon to Marvel's Loki series.

Hm...
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A sequel to Loki AND Deadpool & Wolverine.

I do agree that after watching that video that was posted that the creator's comments do not help with placing it in canon. Calling it a comic interpretation of the MCU TVA is weird as hell, considering it keeps referencing events that happened in the MCU. You could easily make a comic interpration of the MCU TVA (same characters, look & feel) without referencing past MCU events, but they chose not to do so, which to me points more towards it being canon, and the creator's comments being misinterpreted. Seems to me "comic interpretation" was supposed to be taken as "Comic translation" of the MCU TVA.
 
Slyonic said:
A sequel to Loki AND Deadpool & Wolverine.

I do agree that after watching that video that was posted that the creator's comments do not help with placing it in canon. Calling it a comic interpretation of the MCU TVA is weird as hell, considering it keeps referencing events that happened in the MCU. You could easily make a comic interpration of the MCU TVA (same characters, look & feel) without referencing past MCU events, but they chose not to do so, which to me points more towards it being canon, and the creator's comments being misinterpreted. Seems to me "comic interpretation" was supposed to be taken as "Comic translation" of the MCU TVA.
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Crazy idea but maybe comic interpretation just means comic interpretation. And of course the interpretation would reference the events it's inspired by
 
SoyaCS said:
Crazy idea but maybe comic interpretation just means comic interpretation. And of course the interpretation would reference the events it's inspired by
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But the MCU movies are a movie interpretation of the comics, yet do not reference the comic events (as in "This transpired before the movie events")
 
Slyonic said:
But the MCU movies are a movie interpretation of the comics, yet do not reference the comic events (as in "This transpired before the movie events")
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And that's ok, because interpretation doesn't have a solid ruleset. Some interpretation can simply use the same characters, places, and etc. And other interpretations can choose to use the already existing stories to build their version of the story. And again I'm just going off of the Kevin Feige quote.


And there's also the whole TVA comic artist saying and I quote "MCU and Marvel Comics are not the same thing." Though wether or not that can be used as concrete evidence for non canonicity is debatable, which is why I didn't bring it up before.
 
SoyaCS said:
Excpet the comic writers have stated that this is just their interpretation of the aftermath of Loki Season 2.
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Actually, that's distorting the statement. She said that this is her comics interpretation of the TVA following Loki S2. It's a comics interpretation because it's a comic book, not because it's a different TVA. One could say the same for animation. It's the MCU TVA in comic book form... a comic interpretation of the MCU TVA.

SoyaCS said:
Kevin Feige has stated that the TVA comic is using the MCU how the MCU used comics as inspiration and now this comics is doing the same.
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That's certainly an interpretation of his statements, but read in a specific way to fit the narrative that it isn't canon. He did not say that it was a different TVA, and it is not an inaccurate statement either.

The Kahhori comic is absolutely canon as it has been confirmed numerous times that it's the same Kahhori. You must accept the movies and comics as the same multiverse. Based on this, you either have to accept that the comics TVA went through the exact same events that the MCU one did while existing in the same multiverse as it, or that we're seeing the MCU TVA interacting with the comics realities. Which is more convoluted?
 
I don't believe anything of what you said was necessarily wrong but I believe nothing I said was necessarily wrong either. So I don't think this debate can really go anywhere. Since their is no conclusive answer, it leaves fans to interpret the quotes to fit the narrative they see most likely.

So as I said early, I'm not really biased one way or another, I just feel Option A is more likely than Option B; because of this I am willing to wait for a undebateable canon statement, before trying to claim Option A or Option B is the 100% correct answer.
 
At this point in time, I feel there's evidence for both sides and it's up to the individual on whether they want to see it as canon or not. In the chance the comic is canon, I'd be surprised if it was ever relevant outside of it.
 
Rman said:
At this point in time, I feel there's evidence for both sides and it's up to the individual on whether they want to see it as canon or not. In the chance the comic is canon, I'd be surprised if it was ever relevant outside of it.
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Took the words right out of my mouth
 
SoyaCS said:
And that's ok, because interpretation doesn't have a solid ruleset. Some interpretation can simply use the same characters, places, and etc. And other interpretations can choose to use the already existing stories to build their version of the story. And again I'm just going off of the Kevin Feige quote.
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yeah, but following your logic, we'll have 2 realities, 1 it's the MCU we all know, the other is another reality that has everything that the MCU has + the comics, so in the end you'll always have a reality with both of them being canon. Sooo?
 
Megatron said:
yeah, but following your logic, we'll have 2 realities, 1 it's the MCU we all know, the other is another reality that has everything that the MCU has + the comics, so in the end you'll always have a reality with both of them being canon. Sooo?
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...?
 
SoyaCS said:
And there's also the whole TVA comic artist saying and I quote "MCU and Marvel Comics are not the same thing." Though wether or not that can be used as concrete evidence for non canonicity is debatable, which is why I didn't bring it up before.
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I mean... yeah? Raimi's Trilogy is different from the comics, like the comics are different from The Days of Future Past's comic timeline, etc...
 
Megatron said:
I mean... yeah? Raimi's Trilogy is different from the comics, like the comics are different from The Days of Future Past's comic timeline, etc...
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Maybe I'm confused but I don't understand the point you're trying to make
 
SoyaCS said:
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you said this:

SoyaCS said:
And that's ok, because interpretation doesn't have a solid ruleset. Some interpretation can simply use the same characters, places, and etc. And other interpretations can choose to use the already existing stories to build their version of the story. And again I'm just going off of the Kevin Feige quote.
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So we have the TVA comic reality wich is 99% as the MCU timeline. So ehm... at this point why don't have both? It seems reductant and useless to have 2 almost identical realities.
 
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