Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 3)

[Starvel]

Thank you! We finally get somewhere. And this is one case where they don't! See? I don't need to provide anything more than I have. You can keep ignoring it and pretending it doesn't exist all day long, but that changes nothing!

Perhaps it is a case of that. Others disagree. You can keep pretending and ignoring they don't but that doesn't change that your evidence has been deemed insufficient to convince anyone to your cause. Until you have something new nothing changes

 

[Rman]

Thank you! We finally get somewhere. And this is one case where they don't! See? I don't need to provide anything more than I have. You can keep ignoring it and pretending it doesn't exist all day long, but that changes nothing!

The MCU isn't always going to line up perfectly. There are times where we have to take contradictory evidence and determine what placement makes the most sense. Just like Marvel Studios had to do with the book. When it comes to the book, so far all the placements have fit and most matched what this site already had. I just see no reason to assume this one placement is where Marvel Studios is off. You can disagree and believe the scene is set later if you want, but for now Marvel Studios is telling us it's Fall 2024. I mean what is the point of the book if Marvel Studios didn't see it as accurate ?

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Yes I volunteered to do it

Thanks, very nice of you.

No I mean you ignored the fact that other people have disagreed and said that I'm the arbitor of truth. If others disagreed as well I'd listen more. You're one voice that many have disagreed with.

Aren't you the editor? Doesn't' that make you god around here?

Cool story.

Thanks!

We did. Your evidence lost until you present something new, nothing changes.

No it didn't, you just didn't like it so you disagreed with it. Which is fine, but just know that I didn't "lose" because a few people on a thread disagreed with a scene in a movie.

Again many have disagreed with you, not just me like you keep pretending it is. That's how this timeline has always functioned even before me.

So what? That's an appeal to the masses fallacy. I think you're all wrong!

Great. Is there anything else you want

To move on. Read when you are.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Perhaps it is a case of that. Others disagree. You can keep pretending and ignoring they don't but that doesn't change that your evidence has been deemed insufficient to convince anyone to your cause. Until you have something new nothing changes

Deemed insufficient by a few people on here who prefer the book over the film's evidence. There, fixed for ya.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

The MCU isn't always going to line up perfectly. There are times where we have to take contradictory evidence and determine what placement makes the most sense. Just like Marvel Studios had to do with the book. When it comes to the book, so far all the placements have fit and most matched what this site already had. I just see no reason to assume this one placement is where Marvel Studios is off. You can disagree and believe the scene is set later if you want, but for now Marvel Studios is telling us it's Fall 2024. I mean what is the point of the book if Marvel Studios didn't see it as accurate ?

That's what I'm doing.

The book has things that are wrong in it. Here are two simple examples.

On page 119, the top-right blurb mistakenly labels Wanda Maximoff as Natasha Romanoff.
On page 285, the top-left blurb mistakenly labels Maximoff's children as "Bobby and Billy" when their names are canonically "Tommy and Billy".

Simple mistakes, yes, but mistakes none-the-less. The book can be wrong about things, that's the point. If the movie, ALSO made by Marvel Studios contradicts something a book written after the fact has in it, I'm going with the movie. This is arbitrary at this point. You chose the book, I chose the movie.

 

[Rman]

Deemed insufficient by a few people on here who prefer the book over the film's evidence. There, fixed for ya.

The book is from Marvel Studios so sorry if I'd choose to believe the people behind the movie over a scene shot in an area that doesn't even have weather that would match the rest of the movie. They weren't going to go out of their way to make trees in that backlot look more like Fall just because one person (I assure you're probably the only person who cares about this) would care.

 

[Starvel]

Aren't you the editor? Doesn't' that make you god around here?

Hard concept to grasp for you here apparently, okay so as editor I try to make this the best timeline taking everyone's evidence and opinion on that evidence. You are alone in your placement, many others are against your placement. The timeline remains unchanged. Until you have new evidence to convince people to your side nothing changes. If you want to call that acting like god then go ahead I guess.

No it didn't, you just didn't like it so you disagreed with it. Which is fine, but just know that I didn't "lose" because a few people on a thread disagreed with a scene in a movie.

Yes that's how a debate works. You're the argument, we're the defense. You're argument didn't hold up against the judges. You lost here. You can still think what you like.

So what? That's an appeal to the masses fallacy. I think you're all wrong!

Okay but this is not the Dallas Kinard MCU Timeline

To move on. Read when you are.

Okay move on then.

 

[Starvel]

Deemed insufficient by a few people on here who prefer the book over the film's evidence. There, fixed for ya.

A few is still more than Dallas Kinard.

 

[Rman]

That's what I'm doing.

The book has things that are wrong in it. Here are two simple examples.

On page 119, the top-right blurb mistakenly labels Wanda Maximoff as Natasha Romanoff.
On page 285, the top-left blurb mistakenly labels Maximoff's children as "Bobby and Billy" when their names are canonically "Tommy and Billy".

Simple mistakes, yes, but mistakes none-the-less. The book can be wrong about things, that's the point. If the movie, ALSO made by Marvel Studios contradicts something a book written after the fact has in it, I'm going with the movie. This is arbitrary at this point. You chose the book, I chose the movie.

Typos aren't the same as getting placements wrong.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

The book is from Marvel Studios so sorry if I'd choose to believe the people behind the movie over a scene shot in an area that doesn't even have weather that would match the rest of the movie. They weren't going to go out of their way to make trees in that backlot look more like Fall just because one person (I assure you're probably the only person who cares about this) would care.

Then you admit it's an error. So Marvel Studios makes mistakes. I agree, and the book made a mistake!

 

[Dallas Kinard]

A few is still more than Dallas Kinard.

So what?

 

[Starvel]

That's what I'm doing.

The book has things that are wrong in it. Here are two simple examples.

On page 119, the top-right blurb mistakenly labels Wanda Maximoff as Natasha Romanoff.
On page 285, the top-left blurb mistakenly labels Maximoff's children as "Bobby and Billy" when their names are canonically "Tommy and Billy".

As stated earlier in this argument a typo is not the same as an incorrect fact.

Simple mistakes, yes, but mistakes none-the-less. The book can be wrong about things, that's the point. If the movie, ALSO made by Marvel Studios contradicts something a book written after the fact has in it, I'm going with the movie. This is arbitrary at this point. You chose the book, I chose the movie.

Yes it can, you provided evidence as to why you think it's wrong. People here didn't agree. Until you have something new, nothing changes. Seeing a pattern?

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Typos aren't the same as getting placements wrong.

Agreed, but they are still mistakes.

 

[Starvel]

So what?

So as editor of the timeline I don't listen to Dallas Kinard above all other voices.

 

[Rman]

Then you admit it's an error. So Marvel Studios makes mistakes. I agree, and the book made a mistake!

If Marvel Studios can make mistakes then the trees can easily be one too. I've explained to you numerous times at this point why that scene looks that way but you can't accept it.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

As stated earlier in this argument a typo is not the same as an incorrect fact.

Yes it can, you provided evidence as to why you think it's wrong. People here didn't agree. Until you have something new, nothing changes. Seeing a pattern?

Getting a name wrong is not a typo it's an incorrect fact.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

If Marvel Studios can make mistakes then the trees can easily be one too. I've explained to you numerous times at this point why that scene looks that way but you can't accept it.

So can the book's placement.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Hard concept to grasp for you here apparently, okay so as editor I try to make this the best timeline taking everyone's evidence and opinion on that evidence. You are alone in your placement, many others are against your placement. The timeline remains unchanged. Until you have new evidence to convince people to your side nothing changes. If you want to call that acting like god then go ahead I guess.

You're just appealing to the majority. That's fallacious reasoning.

Yes that's how a debate works. You're the argument, we're the defense. You're argument didn't hold up against the judges. You lost here. You can still think what you like.

I didn't lose. I was out-voted, but that doesn't make me incorrect.

Okay but this is not the Dallas Kinard MCU Timeline

Never said it was lol

Okay move on then.

Waiting on you.

 

[Starvel]

Getting a name wrong is not a typo it's an incorrect fact.

A name wrong in a blurb isn't the same as an incorrect placement in a book about placements.

 

[Rman]

So can the book's placement.

But you want to automatically assume it's the book. When it's other placements are accurate and theres a logical explanation on how the trees don't match and Marvel can still see the scene as being Fall. End of conversation, because it's like talking to a brick wall.