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Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 2)
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I think so. I changed it.
Hi guys,
I've finally had the time to catch up fully on the thread and compile messages into topics so I can add my thoughts. I'll post the various responses over the coming days.
First, Luke Cage: Season 2.
To clarify, yes, Loeb did say "for the most part" initially. But then at SDCC, he said, "I think one of the things that faces us as a challenge because of when the movies are made, when the shows are made, and the timing of everything... That the short answer is that the stories that you're seeing, unless otherwise noted, all happen before - sorry if this spoils somebody's life - what is affectionately referred to as "The Thanos Snap". And we'll continue to be in that place until we find out what happens in Avengers 4, because what we don't want to do is tell a story and then, in Avengers 4, something else happens, so that's sort of the easiest way for us to get around that." So that would suggest everything is before, unless there's some sort of clarification otherwise. And obviously there is also the specific address of Luke Cage: Season 2, and Raven Metzner's specific address of Iron Fist: Season 2.
However, just talking about Loeb's general comments (I do think that a specific address of each season is hard to ignore), I don't think it's 100% gospel. I've mentioned this to the wiki, but if a couple of scenes (for example, Iron Fist: Season 2's epilogue) and/or just one season of television (possibly The Punisher: Season 2) slip through the cracks and place themselves after Infinity War, so be it. Loeb can't really say anything else - he's not going to say, "In fact, some of the TV events are taking place after Infinity War, there's just no need to address the snap because things get resolved in Avengers 4" - and I also feel like the statement is more of a general "Yeah they're set before" than a "The specific dates in the timeline that these seasons take place are earlier than the timeline dates for Infinity War". As much as possible, ideally, all this stuff will place before Infinity War, but if a little bit does have to go after, I don't think that's the end of the world, so long as Loeb has not then gone out of his way to specifically talk about that season being pre-Infinity War.
Anyway, that all said, Luke Cage: Season 2, I feel, places itself in August-September 2017 anyway. I just thought that because the majority of the discussion about what to do with TV stuff placing itself after Infinity War cropped up during Luke Cage discussion, I would address it here.
Before I start, anything to do with how Luke Cage's timeline links with Cloak & Dagger's and why things are the way they are, I will address in another post. But I feel Cloak & Dagger: Season 1 takes place in February-March 2017, and treat that as an established thing here.
The discussion and understanding about moving Luke Cage from DIrishB's last positioning has encouraged me that it's OK for me to share my thoughts - especially since you guys have moved it now, so I'm only providing more analysis/justification.
Evidence:
2017
*Episode 1: Claire's still studying Misty's arm and Misty's not used to it, suggesting it's not long since The Defenders: Season 1.
*Episode 1: Not much has happened with Mariah and Shades since Season 1, suggesting it hasn't been too long.
*Episode 1: Mariah speaks like she hasn't seen Luke since he got out of prison, suggesting it's not been long since The Defenders: Season 1.
*Episode 2: SC6 is said to be on that night, and the show started on February 6, 2017. It also ended February 2, 2018, although that was likely something that couldn't have been predicted during filming, so it's not necessarily the intention that this evidence would place it before February 2, 2018. Still, ideally, it would fall between those dates, and it should be after February 6, 2017.
*Episode 2: Misty is "still trying to wrap [her] head around" losing her arm, again suggesting not long since The Defenders: Season 1.
*Episode 4: Shades' car has a "1 18" registration, meaning it shouldn't be later than January 2018.
*Episode 5: Foggy says the Destiny's Child bar mitzvah was "a decade ago". It was May 2005, but since this is only 2017, or 2018, he must be rounding. Still, it would suggest more like 2017 than 2018.
*Episode 8: Shades mentions that the Yankees are playing a doubleheader, in a scene set 5 days before the West Indian Parade. This did not happen in 2018, but happened in 2017, with August 30th.
*Episode 10: The "bend the knee" phrase from Game of Thrones is used, which is more current in September 2017 than September 2018.
*Episode 13: D.W. says, "Personally I haven't felt this weird since November 9th." This implies that November 9, 2016 (the day Trump was announced as the new president-elect) was the last November 9th, making this September 2017.
*Jeph Loeb has said on 2 occasions that the seasons of TV released between Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers 4 are set before Avengers: Infinity War, and has explicitly said Luke Cage: Season 2 is set before Avengers: Infinity War. The latest Avengers: Infinity War can take place is June 2018, meaning this season should not be 2018, as it would be a few months after Avengers: Infinity War.
*Luke Cage: Season 2 seems to take place after Cloak & Dagger: Season 1 (O'Reilly is in New Orleans and she only went to New Orleans just before Cloak & Dagger: Season 1, according to Emma Lahana - like I said, I will explain properly soon), but not too long after because of what's going on with O'Reilly. Cloak & Dagger: Season 1 places itself in February-March 2017, so August-September 2017 would be the best August-September to fit.
2018
*Episode 7: "Next Statement Sept 1, 2018". Statements are usually monthly, suggesting it is currently August 2018.
*Episode 8: Shades has a "6 20" registration sticker, suggesting it is after June 2018.
To also consider, but currently unclear:
*Episode 1 + 5: The Black Enterprise magazine has a "May/June 201?" date but it could be 6 or 8. Shown Episode 1 at 14:21 and Episode 5 at 39:37. Sadly, the usual HD screencap sites I use haven't done Luke Cage: Season 2 yet.
*Episode 12: Anansi's file has a date of death at the top that I can't quite make out. Shown Episode 12 at 35:41. Again, sadly no HD screencaps available.
(Some evidence that ends up irrelevant when just comparing Summer 2017 with Summer 2018 - Episode 4: Misty's car's "9 18" sticker, Episode 9: Jamaicans' "8 18" sticker, Episode 13: "11 18" sticker, Episode 13: Sheldon's "3 19" sticker.)
But I feel overall, 2017 is the best result. And this is just looking at Luke Cage: Season 2 on its own - because going outside of just the season itself, there is also the fact that Iron Fist: Season 2 has significant evidence placing itself in early 2018, and is set after Luke Cage: Season 2, serving as further confirmation.
I feel comfortable with the move, not because it's what we decided on at the wiki - there are many things on this timeline that I disagree with but do not want to challenge after DIrishB's passing - but because I'm sure he would have wanted it this way. I will get into Iron Fist: Season 2 properly in another post, but it very much places itself in early 2018, and there is definitely significant evidence placing Luke Cage: Season 2 in 2017. And reading through some of his messages, as I have quoted above - if you look, he was ready to move it. It was a placement that was very much in flux, and he was ready and willing to move it, should future content contradict 2018, and it did. There's a difference between moving something like Luke Cage: Season 2 and moving something like Iron Man, which was very much a firm placement from him, for years.
A couple of other things.
First, the exacts of the day and night breakdown of the show. There has been some discussion about how Mariah's line about "a few weeks ago" doesn't line up with everything else, but it can. My note-taking system now incorporates potential gaps during episodes. Sometimes, despite seeming like there is no gap during an episode, gaps can actually be slipped in if necessary because there's no connection or reference tying them together. I go through and when there's a potential gap, I label it, then if that gap no longer becomes possible because, for example, that scene is referred to as "earlier" or a scene before it is referred to as "yesterday" later on or whatever reason, I remove the potential gap. After all the notes are taken, any potential gaps left can be looked at for helping broader references like Mariah's "a few weeks ago" line work.
Here's the full breakdown of my notes, and the explanation of how all the calculations worked out. And the result was:
c. Tuesday, August 8, 2017
Episode 1 beginning to minute 3ish.
c. Wednesday, August 9, 2017
Episode 1 minute 4ish to minute 25ish.
c. Saturday, August 12, 2017
Episode 1 minute 25ish to minute 28ish.
c. Tuesday, August 15, 2017
Episode 1 minute 28ish.
c. Friday, August 18, 2017
Episode 1 minute 28ish to minute 30ish.
c. Monday, August 21, 2017
Episode 1 minute 30ish to minute 41ish.
c. Tuesday, August 22, 2017
Episode 1 minute 41ish to end.
c. Wednesday, August 23, 2017
Episode 2 beginning to minute 43ish.
c. Thursday, August 24, 2017
Episode 2 minute 43ish to end. Episode 3 beginning to end. Episode 4 beginning to minute 9ish.
c. Friday, August 25, 2017
Episode 4 minute 9ish to end.
Monday, August 28, 2017
Episode 5 beginning to end. Episode 6 beginning to minute 41ish.
Tuesday, August 29, 2017
Episode 6 minute 41ish to end. Episode 7 beginning to end.
Wednesday, August 30, 2017
Episode 8 beginning to end. Episode 9 beginning to minute 12ish.
Thursday, August 31, 2017
Episode 9 minute 12ish to end.
Sunday, September 3, 2017
Episode 10 beginning to end. Episode 11 beginning to minute 3ish.
Monday, September 4, 2017
Episode 11 minute 4ish to end. Episode 12 beginning to minute 2ish.
Tuesday, September 5, 2017
Episode 12 minute 2ish to end.
c. Friday, September 8, 2017
Episode 13 beginning to minute 44ish.
c. Saturday, September 9, 2017
Episode 13 minute 44ish to minute 51ish.
c. Sunday, September 10, 2017
Episode 13 minute 51ish to minute 60ish.
c. Sunday, September 17, 2017
Episode 13 minute 60ish to end.
Because of the way this timeline works, I'm not suggesting assigning specific dates to anything I've given a "c.", because they're not certain dates. Only August 28-September 5, 2017 are the exact given dates, and the rest would just come under "August" and "September". But just giving you guys a breakdown of how I feel it all works out, and if anything ever also places itself in August or September 2017, it will also help with sequencing them against Luke Cage: Season 2.
The other thing is the Scarfe flashbacks, something that wasn't mentioned is that it's said to be during the baseball season. This means that if it's about 2014 (which I agree with), then it has to be between March 30 and September 28.
One last thing mentioned here by 64SuperNintendo that I thought I'd mention - there isn't actually much prop evidence contradicting November 2016 in The Punisher: Season 1. The props mostly support 2016 - for example, Micro's computer has a huge collection of recent files, and none of the dates are later than November 2016 - there are a tonne of dates in close proximity, it would be weird if it were November 2017 and for some reason, none of the files were from the last year. The only contradictions are the possibility of the plane ticket saying 2017, but that's very blurry, and a combination of a prop and dialogue late in the season, when Lewis' driving license says he was born on May 30, 1991, but Micro says he's "26". The prop itself wasn't a problem, but the incorrect combination.
I've finally had the time to catch up fully on the thread and compile messages into topics so I can add my thoughts. I'll post the various responses over the coming days.
First, Luke Cage: Season 2.
No, nothing specific so far (I'm on episode 10).
And putting LC Season 2 in April, 2018 could work if we assume a longer period of time between Thor Ragnarok's ending and mid credit scene, and aligning Infinity War around its release in May, 2018 (which based on the weather in the New York scenes it certainly indicates.
Of course, Agents of SHIELD is a problem, as it's timeline stretches only to January, maybe February, 2018 if you really stretch it, which would place IW in Jan/Feb (though that doesn't really align with IW's spring like weather).
I dunno. It's a big continuity screw up.
Seriously, Marvel, if you need someone to coordinate with prop department and timeline mentions for TV and films, I'm available.
(Please confirm for us Iron Fist season two...)
And now we have official confirmation from the show's writer that Iron Fist season two, and Luke Cage season two by technicality, are set BEFORE Infinity War.
Look, I hope I'm not coming across like I'm discrediting DIrishB's legacy. I respect the man and the work he put into his timelines. I'm not about to tarnish that.
That said, it's still been extremely clear that Iron Fist and Luke Cage are intended to be set before Infinity War. It's now been confirmed by Jeph Loeb and the show's writer, and that's as official as it can get.
The dates in Luke Cage S2 were incorrect, no thanks the prop department.
DIrishB's suggestion for dealing with any content which comes out before Avengers 4 but sets itself after Infinity War is similar to my original suggestion on the wiki. My suggestion after I saw Infinity War was that we shouldn't go out of our way to contradict evidence from the shows just to get them prior to Infinity War, because we just don't know how things will be and how feasible the post-Spring 2018 dates are. The idea was not to force it back, but also not post those events onto the wiki timeline pages until we're sure, next year, that they're OK being placed there - just bank them in a draft page until the release of Avengers 4, when we can make final decisions. However, with Jeph Loeb's comments, it changed things slightly, because the idea of "don't contradict anything just to get before Infinity War" isn't quite as valid - basically, because Loeb's comments count as evidence for everything being pre-Infinity War, there is now some motivation to go for a slightly contradictory option to move things back. I still don't feel it's worth massive contradictions, but when there's a contradictory mess and two options, one pre-Infinity War and one post-Infinity War, Loeb's comments certainly add evidence to the pre side. Especially when specific seasons are singled out.
To clarify, yes, Loeb did say "for the most part" initially. But then at SDCC, he said, "I think one of the things that faces us as a challenge because of when the movies are made, when the shows are made, and the timing of everything... That the short answer is that the stories that you're seeing, unless otherwise noted, all happen before - sorry if this spoils somebody's life - what is affectionately referred to as "The Thanos Snap". And we'll continue to be in that place until we find out what happens in Avengers 4, because what we don't want to do is tell a story and then, in Avengers 4, something else happens, so that's sort of the easiest way for us to get around that." So that would suggest everything is before, unless there's some sort of clarification otherwise. And obviously there is also the specific address of Luke Cage: Season 2, and Raven Metzner's specific address of Iron Fist: Season 2.
However, just talking about Loeb's general comments (I do think that a specific address of each season is hard to ignore), I don't think it's 100% gospel. I've mentioned this to the wiki, but if a couple of scenes (for example, Iron Fist: Season 2's epilogue) and/or just one season of television (possibly The Punisher: Season 2) slip through the cracks and place themselves after Infinity War, so be it. Loeb can't really say anything else - he's not going to say, "In fact, some of the TV events are taking place after Infinity War, there's just no need to address the snap because things get resolved in Avengers 4" - and I also feel like the statement is more of a general "Yeah they're set before" than a "The specific dates in the timeline that these seasons take place are earlier than the timeline dates for Infinity War". As much as possible, ideally, all this stuff will place before Infinity War, but if a little bit does have to go after, I don't think that's the end of the world, so long as Loeb has not then gone out of his way to specifically talk about that season being pre-Infinity War.
Anyway, that all said, Luke Cage: Season 2, I feel, places itself in August-September 2017 anyway. I just thought that because the majority of the discussion about what to do with TV stuff placing itself after Infinity War cropped up during Luke Cage discussion, I would address it here.
Before I start, anything to do with how Luke Cage's timeline links with Cloak & Dagger's and why things are the way they are, I will address in another post. But I feel Cloak & Dagger: Season 1 takes place in February-March 2017, and treat that as an established thing here.
The discussion and understanding about moving Luke Cage from DIrishB's last positioning has encouraged me that it's OK for me to share my thoughts - especially since you guys have moved it now, so I'm only providing more analysis/justification.
Evidence:
2017
*Episode 1: Claire's still studying Misty's arm and Misty's not used to it, suggesting it's not long since The Defenders: Season 1.
*Episode 1: Not much has happened with Mariah and Shades since Season 1, suggesting it hasn't been too long.
*Episode 1: Mariah speaks like she hasn't seen Luke since he got out of prison, suggesting it's not been long since The Defenders: Season 1.
*Episode 2: SC6 is said to be on that night, and the show started on February 6, 2017. It also ended February 2, 2018, although that was likely something that couldn't have been predicted during filming, so it's not necessarily the intention that this evidence would place it before February 2, 2018. Still, ideally, it would fall between those dates, and it should be after February 6, 2017.
*Episode 2: Misty is "still trying to wrap [her] head around" losing her arm, again suggesting not long since The Defenders: Season 1.
*Episode 4: Shades' car has a "1 18" registration, meaning it shouldn't be later than January 2018.
*Episode 5: Foggy says the Destiny's Child bar mitzvah was "a decade ago". It was May 2005, but since this is only 2017, or 2018, he must be rounding. Still, it would suggest more like 2017 than 2018.
*Episode 8: Shades mentions that the Yankees are playing a doubleheader, in a scene set 5 days before the West Indian Parade. This did not happen in 2018, but happened in 2017, with August 30th.
*Episode 10: The "bend the knee" phrase from Game of Thrones is used, which is more current in September 2017 than September 2018.
*Episode 13: D.W. says, "Personally I haven't felt this weird since November 9th." This implies that November 9, 2016 (the day Trump was announced as the new president-elect) was the last November 9th, making this September 2017.
*Jeph Loeb has said on 2 occasions that the seasons of TV released between Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers 4 are set before Avengers: Infinity War, and has explicitly said Luke Cage: Season 2 is set before Avengers: Infinity War. The latest Avengers: Infinity War can take place is June 2018, meaning this season should not be 2018, as it would be a few months after Avengers: Infinity War.
*Luke Cage: Season 2 seems to take place after Cloak & Dagger: Season 1 (O'Reilly is in New Orleans and she only went to New Orleans just before Cloak & Dagger: Season 1, according to Emma Lahana - like I said, I will explain properly soon), but not too long after because of what's going on with O'Reilly. Cloak & Dagger: Season 1 places itself in February-March 2017, so August-September 2017 would be the best August-September to fit.
2018
*Episode 7: "Next Statement Sept 1, 2018". Statements are usually monthly, suggesting it is currently August 2018.
*Episode 8: Shades has a "6 20" registration sticker, suggesting it is after June 2018.
To also consider, but currently unclear:
*Episode 1 + 5: The Black Enterprise magazine has a "May/June 201?" date but it could be 6 or 8. Shown Episode 1 at 14:21 and Episode 5 at 39:37. Sadly, the usual HD screencap sites I use haven't done Luke Cage: Season 2 yet.
*Episode 12: Anansi's file has a date of death at the top that I can't quite make out. Shown Episode 12 at 35:41. Again, sadly no HD screencaps available.
(Some evidence that ends up irrelevant when just comparing Summer 2017 with Summer 2018 - Episode 4: Misty's car's "9 18" sticker, Episode 9: Jamaicans' "8 18" sticker, Episode 13: "11 18" sticker, Episode 13: Sheldon's "3 19" sticker.)
But I feel overall, 2017 is the best result. And this is just looking at Luke Cage: Season 2 on its own - because going outside of just the season itself, there is also the fact that Iron Fist: Season 2 has significant evidence placing itself in early 2018, and is set after Luke Cage: Season 2, serving as further confirmation.
I feel comfortable with the move, not because it's what we decided on at the wiki - there are many things on this timeline that I disagree with but do not want to challenge after DIrishB's passing - but because I'm sure he would have wanted it this way. I will get into Iron Fist: Season 2 properly in another post, but it very much places itself in early 2018, and there is definitely significant evidence placing Luke Cage: Season 2 in 2017. And reading through some of his messages, as I have quoted above - if you look, he was ready to move it. It was a placement that was very much in flux, and he was ready and willing to move it, should future content contradict 2018, and it did. There's a difference between moving something like Luke Cage: Season 2 and moving something like Iron Man, which was very much a firm placement from him, for years.
A couple of other things.
First, the exacts of the day and night breakdown of the show. There has been some discussion about how Mariah's line about "a few weeks ago" doesn't line up with everything else, but it can. My note-taking system now incorporates potential gaps during episodes. Sometimes, despite seeming like there is no gap during an episode, gaps can actually be slipped in if necessary because there's no connection or reference tying them together. I go through and when there's a potential gap, I label it, then if that gap no longer becomes possible because, for example, that scene is referred to as "earlier" or a scene before it is referred to as "yesterday" later on or whatever reason, I remove the potential gap. After all the notes are taken, any potential gaps left can be looked at for helping broader references like Mariah's "a few weeks ago" line work.
Here's the full breakdown of my notes, and the explanation of how all the calculations worked out. And the result was:
c. Tuesday, August 8, 2017
Episode 1 beginning to minute 3ish.
c. Wednesday, August 9, 2017
Episode 1 minute 4ish to minute 25ish.
c. Saturday, August 12, 2017
Episode 1 minute 25ish to minute 28ish.
c. Tuesday, August 15, 2017
Episode 1 minute 28ish.
c. Friday, August 18, 2017
Episode 1 minute 28ish to minute 30ish.
c. Monday, August 21, 2017
Episode 1 minute 30ish to minute 41ish.
c. Tuesday, August 22, 2017
Episode 1 minute 41ish to end.
c. Wednesday, August 23, 2017
Episode 2 beginning to minute 43ish.
c. Thursday, August 24, 2017
Episode 2 minute 43ish to end. Episode 3 beginning to end. Episode 4 beginning to minute 9ish.
c. Friday, August 25, 2017
Episode 4 minute 9ish to end.
Monday, August 28, 2017
Episode 5 beginning to end. Episode 6 beginning to minute 41ish.
Tuesday, August 29, 2017
Episode 6 minute 41ish to end. Episode 7 beginning to end.
Wednesday, August 30, 2017
Episode 8 beginning to end. Episode 9 beginning to minute 12ish.
Thursday, August 31, 2017
Episode 9 minute 12ish to end.
Sunday, September 3, 2017
Episode 10 beginning to end. Episode 11 beginning to minute 3ish.
Monday, September 4, 2017
Episode 11 minute 4ish to end. Episode 12 beginning to minute 2ish.
Tuesday, September 5, 2017
Episode 12 minute 2ish to end.
c. Friday, September 8, 2017
Episode 13 beginning to minute 44ish.
c. Saturday, September 9, 2017
Episode 13 minute 44ish to minute 51ish.
c. Sunday, September 10, 2017
Episode 13 minute 51ish to minute 60ish.
c. Sunday, September 17, 2017
Episode 13 minute 60ish to end.
Because of the way this timeline works, I'm not suggesting assigning specific dates to anything I've given a "c.", because they're not certain dates. Only August 28-September 5, 2017 are the exact given dates, and the rest would just come under "August" and "September". But just giving you guys a breakdown of how I feel it all works out, and if anything ever also places itself in August or September 2017, it will also help with sequencing them against Luke Cage: Season 2.
The other thing is the Scarfe flashbacks, something that wasn't mentioned is that it's said to be during the baseball season. This means that if it's about 2014 (which I agree with), then it has to be between March 30 and September 28.
One last thing mentioned here by 64SuperNintendo that I thought I'd mention - there isn't actually much prop evidence contradicting November 2016 in The Punisher: Season 1. The props mostly support 2016 - for example, Micro's computer has a huge collection of recent files, and none of the dates are later than November 2016 - there are a tonne of dates in close proximity, it would be weird if it were November 2017 and for some reason, none of the files were from the last year. The only contradictions are the possibility of the plane ticket saying 2017, but that's very blurry, and a combination of a prop and dialogue late in the season, when Lewis' driving license says he was born on May 30, 1991, but Micro says he's "26". The prop itself wasn't a problem, but the incorrect combination.
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I'm kind of attached to the idea of IF2 being December 2017. Colleen's line about the nightclub door makes it seem like LC2 was recent, and placing it in September gives plenty of breathing room for DD3 and Punisher 2 to take place before IW.
I know props make it pretty clear that it's early 2018, but for right now I'm personally just placing it in a nebulous "post LC2" spot and waiting on DD3. I'm pretty confident they'll be a little more specific about how much time has passed since Defenders.
Hmmm won't let me edit either... I can see reasoning behind that, I know they say it happens before the snap, so can pencil it in with space for DD3 and P2, but nothing to stop us moving it after should Avengers 4 pull some time travel shenanigans making the comments of it being before irrelevant. Is there anything that stops that placement from being possible other than props? Off the top of my head after a long day I can't think of anything other than New York isn't quite that cold in September
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Should the iron fist texts be included? (All about this., So much for being punctual., A true GOAT., Girls' Night out.)
https://mobile.twitter.com/marvelironfist/status/1027619268651827201
https://mobile.twitter.com/marvelironfist/status/1029797370899230720?lang=en-gb
https://mobile.twitter.com/marvelironfist/status/1031605534242234368
https://mobile.twitter.com/marvelironfist/status/1035229412843610112?lang=en
Also the videos from the website based on the rising tide?
The Iron Man Takes Flight
https://youtu.be/bcdxTyKwcKA
Footage from the Stark Exbo Attacks
https://youtu.be/oRKEjhdY_eM
Evidence of Real Life Monster
https://youtu.be/pumm1tY8TKY
Dont know whats screwing with the links but just copy and paste them :/
And lastly you could add runaways season 2 to after DD season 3.
https://mobile.twitter.com/marvelironfist/status/1027619268651827201
https://mobile.twitter.com/marvelironfist/status/1029797370899230720?lang=en-gb
https://mobile.twitter.com/marvelironfist/status/1031605534242234368
https://mobile.twitter.com/marvelironfist/status/1035229412843610112?lang=en
Also the videos from the website based on the rising tide?
The Iron Man Takes Flight
https://youtu.be/bcdxTyKwcKA
Footage from the Stark Exbo Attacks
https://youtu.be/oRKEjhdY_eM
Evidence of Real Life Monster
https://youtu.be/pumm1tY8TKY
Dont know whats screwing with the links but just copy and paste them :/
And lastly you could add runaways season 2 to after DD season 3.
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Right click on "Edit Post" and see where it says "Open in a New Tab"; click that and then you'll be able to edit.
Unfortunately though, you can't use italics, bold, font size, etc...you'll just have to copy and paste for those.
Unfortunately though, you can't use italics, bold, font size, etc...you'll just have to copy and paste for those.
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The synopsis for Daredevil season three says Matt Murdock has been missing for months.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/m...his-latest-season-3-teaser-new-stills-a163746
Take it a grain of salt for now.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/m...his-latest-season-3-teaser-new-stills-a163746
Take it a grain of salt for now.
I wasn't trying to convince anyone, I was just saying the things I'd been planning on saying for a few months - adding my own notes, including some things that hadn't been noted before, which happened to add to the 2017 placement you guys had already decided on.
Which things were updated?
I will address the Iron Fist stuff in another message coming up, but the club line isn't a reference to Luke Cage - it's a drug farm that Danny breaks into in Luke Cage: Season 2, Episode 1, not a nightclub. Plus if it were immediately after Luke Cage: Season 2 there would potentially be some clash with Mr. Yang and Misty's appearances.
Yeah, I, too, am concerned about what Daredevil: Season 3 will have to say about the time since The Defenders...
Again, I'll get to this in an upcoming message, but the nightclub isn't a Luke Cage reference, and as well as the "1/2/2018" tablet date, there's the references in Episodes 9 and 10 to it being Chinatown's "Spring Fair" (related to Chinese Lunar New Year in February) very soon and the fact it's clearly presented as deep winter, including lines of dialogue such as Colleen telling Lana's mother in Episode 1 that she'll get Lana "winter clothes".
I was preparing a response to the last time you brought this up, to send later on in a future response, but it's a small thing so I might as well just send it now:
First, the Iron Fist texts.
With additional material like this, I usually say to place it the same number of days before the beginning of the season as it was released. So if something promoting Iron Fist: Season 2 came out like 48 hours before Iron Fist: Season 2, then it should be placed around 48 hours before the beginning of Iron Fist: Season 2 in the timeline.
So, with these, remember Iron Fist: Season 2 came out September 7, 2018 07:00 UTC.
-"All about this." Posted August 9, 2018 18:15 UTC, 684.75 hours before the season. The season begins January 1, 2018 at roughly 2AM New York time. 684.75 hours earlier is December 3, 2017 13:15 New York. The closest "5:47PM-6:56PM" (when the texts take place) is December 3, 2017 17:47-18:56 New York time.
-"So much for being punctual." Posted August 15, 2018 18:30 UTC, 540.5 hours before the season. Back from January 1, 2018 02:00 New York, this gives December 9, 2017 13:30 New York. The closest "5:47PM-6:56PM" (when the texts take place) is December 9, 2017 17:47-18:56 New York time.
-"A true GOAT." Posted August 20, 2018 18:15 UTC, 420.75 hours before the season. Back from January 1, 2018 02:00 New York, this gives December 14, 2017, 13:15 New York. The closest "3:56PM" (when the texts take place) is December 14, 2017 15:56 New York time.
-"Girls' night out." Posted August 30, 2018 18:15 UTC, 180.75 hours before the season. Back from January 1, 2018 02:00 New York, this gives December 24, 2017 13:15 New York. The closest "10:07PM" (when the texts take place) is December 24, 2017 22:07 New York time.
Also, it turned out that the two first promo teasers for the season were not actually footage from the show, but rather especially-shot teasers. So those can also be added.
-Date Announcement. Posted July 20, 2018 02:00 UTC, 1181 hours before the season. Back from January 1, 2018 02:00 New York, this gives November 12, 2017, 21:00 New York. The closest daytime (when the scene takes place) is November 12, 2017 daytime New York time.
-Memories Teaser. Posted July 28, 2017 09:22 UTC, 981.63333 hours before the season. Back from January 1, 2018 02:00 New York, this gives November 21, 2017, 04:22 New York. The closest daytime (when the scene takes place) is November 21, 2017 daytime New York time.
As for the Rising Tide, you're missing a few things. Here's the full breakdown. They were all released on Sunday, May 12, 2013, and using this site, the times of posting can be found. Here:
-The first video was "Evidence of Real Life Monster". The original link still works, here, and it was released at 15:28:02 UTC.
-The second video was "What Really Happened Here? S.H.I.E.L.D. Operatives Spotted?". The video at the original link has been taken down, but people on YouTube have reuploaded it, or you can watch it on Web Archive here.
-The third video was "S.H.I.E.L.D. Evidence Caught on Tape!". The video at the original link has been taken down, but people on YouTube have reuploaded it.
-The fourth video was "The Iron Man Takes Flight". The original link still works, here, and it was released at 15:30:39 UTC.
-And the fifth video was "Footage from Stark Expo Attacks". The original link still works, here, and it was released at 15:33:03 UTC.
And the reason I know how "What Really Happened Here? S.H.I.E.L.D. Operatives Spotted?" and "S.H.I.E.L.D. Evidence Caught on Tape!", the two which have been removed from YouTube, fit into the order of upload, is that this site has the 5 videos in order, and I can tell that it's the order of upload because the 3 for which we do know the time of upload, "Evidence of Real Life Monster", "The Iron Man Takes Flight", and "Footage from Stark Expo Attacks", are in the correct order, implying that is intentional and therefore the list is all in order.
Oh dear. This sounds like it's going to be fun...
Ignore my response to Pro Bot in the message above. The thread is very weird at the moment and my message posted twice, so I was going to try to make it no longer two identical messages, but instead edit them to turn the first message into a general replies thing and make the second message just the response to Pro Bot. I edited the second message so it's just the Pro Bot response, as well as improving it, and it worked, but whenever I try to edit the previous message it takes me to a "403 FORBIDDEN - YOU DON'T HAVE PERMISSION TO ACCESS TO THIS DOCUMENT ON THIS SERVER - THIS SITE RECENTLY UNDERWENT EXTENSIVE REDESIGN AND YOU MAY BE REFERENCING AN OUTDATED LINK..." message. I don't know what's going on, the way the thread works is very messy right now, I hope it gets sorted.
So anyway, the original (slightly worse) response to Pro Bot is still there unfortunately. But ignore that, this is my proper response to Pro Bot.
With additional material like this, I usually say to place it the same number of days before the beginning of the season as it was released. So if something promoting Iron Fist: Season 2 came out like 48 hours before Iron Fist: Season 2, then it should be placed around 48 hours before the beginning of Iron Fist: Season 2 in the timeline.
So, with these, remember Iron Fist: Season 2 came out September 7, 2018 07:00 UTC.
-"All about this." Posted August 9, 2018 18:15 UTC, 684.75 hours before the season. The season begins January 1, 2018 at roughly 2AM New York time. 684.75 hours earlier is December 3, 2017 13:15 New York. The closest "5:47PM-6:56PM" (when the texts take place) is December 3, 2017 17:47-18:56 New York time.
-"So much for being punctual." Posted August 15, 2018 18:30 UTC, 540.5 hours before the season. Back from January 1, 2018 02:00 New York, this gives December 9, 2017 13:30 New York. The closest "5:47PM-6:56PM" (when the texts take place) is December 9, 2017 17:47-18:56 New York time.
-"A true GOAT." Posted August 20, 2018 18:15 UTC, 420.75 hours before the season. Back from January 1, 2018 02:00 New York, this gives December 14, 2017, 13:15 New York. The closest "3:56PM" (when the texts take place) is December 14, 2017 15:56 New York time.
-"Girls' night out." Posted August 30, 2018 18:15 UTC, 180.75 hours before the season. Back from January 1, 2018 02:00 New York, this gives December 24, 2017 13:15 New York. The closest "10:07PM" (when the texts take place) is December 24, 2017 22:07 New York time.
Also, it turned out that the two first promo teasers for the season were not actually footage from the show, but rather especially-shot teasers. So those can also be added.
-Date Announcement. Posted July 20, 2018 02:00 UTC, 1181 hours before the season. Back from January 1, 2018 02:00 New York, this gives November 12, 2017, 21:00 New York. The closest daytime (when the scene takes place) is November 12, 2017 daytime New York time.
-Memories Teaser. Posted July 28, 2017 09:22 UTC, 981.63333 hours before the season. Back from January 1, 2018 02:00 New York, this gives November 21, 2017, 04:22 New York. The closest daytime (when the scene takes place) is November 21, 2017 daytime New York time.
As for the Rising Tide, you're missing a few things. Here's the full breakdown. They were all released on Sunday, May 12, 2013, and using this site, the times of posting can be found. Here:
-The first video was "Evidence of Real Life Monster". The original link still works, here, and it was released at 15:28:02 UTC.
-The second video was "What Really Happened Here? S.H.I.E.L.D. Operatives Spotted?". The video at the original link has been taken down, but people on YouTube have reuploaded it, or you can watch it on Web Archive here.
-The third video was "S.H.I.E.L.D. Evidence Caught on Tape!". The video at the original link has been taken down, but people on YouTube have reuploaded it.
-The fourth video was "The Iron Man Takes Flight". The original link still works, here, and it was released at 15:30:39 UTC.
-And the fifth video was "Footage from Stark Expo Attacks". The original link still works, here, and it was released at 15:33:03 UTC.
And the reason I know how "What Really Happened Here? S.H.I.E.L.D. Operatives Spotted?" and "S.H.I.E.L.D. Evidence Caught on Tape!", the two which have been removed from YouTube, fit into the order of upload, is that this site has the 5 videos in order. You can tell that it's the order of upload because the 3 for which we do know the time/order of upload, "Evidence of Real Life Monster", "The Iron Man Takes Flight", and "Footage from Stark Expo Attacks", are in the correct order, implying that the list is intentionally ordered, and therefore the list should all be in order.
So anyway, the original (slightly worse) response to Pro Bot is still there unfortunately. But ignore that, this is my proper response to Pro Bot.
First, the Iron Fist texts.
With additional material like this, I usually say to place it the same number of days before the beginning of the season as it was released. So if something promoting Iron Fist: Season 2 came out like 48 hours before Iron Fist: Season 2, then it should be placed around 48 hours before the beginning of Iron Fist: Season 2 in the timeline.
So, with these, remember Iron Fist: Season 2 came out September 7, 2018 07:00 UTC.
-"All about this." Posted August 9, 2018 18:15 UTC, 684.75 hours before the season. The season begins January 1, 2018 at roughly 2AM New York time. 684.75 hours earlier is December 3, 2017 13:15 New York. The closest "5:47PM-6:56PM" (when the texts take place) is December 3, 2017 17:47-18:56 New York time.
-"So much for being punctual." Posted August 15, 2018 18:30 UTC, 540.5 hours before the season. Back from January 1, 2018 02:00 New York, this gives December 9, 2017 13:30 New York. The closest "5:47PM-6:56PM" (when the texts take place) is December 9, 2017 17:47-18:56 New York time.
-"A true GOAT." Posted August 20, 2018 18:15 UTC, 420.75 hours before the season. Back from January 1, 2018 02:00 New York, this gives December 14, 2017, 13:15 New York. The closest "3:56PM" (when the texts take place) is December 14, 2017 15:56 New York time.
-"Girls' night out." Posted August 30, 2018 18:15 UTC, 180.75 hours before the season. Back from January 1, 2018 02:00 New York, this gives December 24, 2017 13:15 New York. The closest "10:07PM" (when the texts take place) is December 24, 2017 22:07 New York time.
Also, it turned out that the two first promo teasers for the season were not actually footage from the show, but rather especially-shot teasers. So those can also be added.
-Date Announcement. Posted July 20, 2018 02:00 UTC, 1181 hours before the season. Back from January 1, 2018 02:00 New York, this gives November 12, 2017, 21:00 New York. The closest daytime (when the scene takes place) is November 12, 2017 daytime New York time.
-Memories Teaser. Posted July 28, 2017 09:22 UTC, 981.63333 hours before the season. Back from January 1, 2018 02:00 New York, this gives November 21, 2017, 04:22 New York. The closest daytime (when the scene takes place) is November 21, 2017 daytime New York time.
As for the Rising Tide, you're missing a few things. Here's the full breakdown. They were all released on Sunday, May 12, 2013, and using this site, the times of posting can be found. Here:
-The first video was "Evidence of Real Life Monster". The original link still works, here, and it was released at 15:28:02 UTC.
-The second video was "What Really Happened Here? S.H.I.E.L.D. Operatives Spotted?". The video at the original link has been taken down, but people on YouTube have reuploaded it, or you can watch it on Web Archive here.
-The third video was "S.H.I.E.L.D. Evidence Caught on Tape!". The video at the original link has been taken down, but people on YouTube have reuploaded it.
-The fourth video was "The Iron Man Takes Flight". The original link still works, here, and it was released at 15:30:39 UTC.
-And the fifth video was "Footage from Stark Expo Attacks". The original link still works, here, and it was released at 15:33:03 UTC.
And the reason I know how "What Really Happened Here? S.H.I.E.L.D. Operatives Spotted?" and "S.H.I.E.L.D. Evidence Caught on Tape!", the two which have been removed from YouTube, fit into the order of upload, is that this site has the 5 videos in order. You can tell that it's the order of upload because the 3 for which we do know the time/order of upload, "Evidence of Real Life Monster", "The Iron Man Takes Flight", and "Footage from Stark Expo Attacks", are in the correct order, implying that the list is intentionally ordered, and therefore the list should all be in order.
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I placed the August 28 - September 5 episodes on those dates, and gave the other episodes (which you said were estimations) non-specific August and September placements, as DIrishB did whenever specific dates weren't set in stone.
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Updated for Ant-Man and the Wasp's digital release.
MrRLopez and Bussterj on MCU wiki said that the date on Scott's computer seems to say "4/30/2018", so I dated the movie based on that.
MrRLopez and Bussterj on MCU wiki said that the date on Scott's computer seems to say "4/30/2018", so I dated the movie based on that.
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Well... theres this https://www.lbyr.com/titles/steve-b...es-journey/9780316480505/#module-whats-inside
Other then the extract i know nothing. Sorry.
Other then the extract i know nothing. Sorry.
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Avengers - Infinity War Chapter 19: "Aftermath" (2:14:17 - 2:17:30)
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 18: "End Credits" (1:57:29 - 1:57:53)
^ I don't think there is a way to know for sure which film chronologically ends before the other.
Ant-Man and the Wasp Chapter 18: "End Credits" (1:57:29 - 1:57:53)
^ I don't think there is a way to know for sure which film chronologically ends before the other.
Pro Bot
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Nice. Updated with AMATW: THJ
Pro Bot
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Spider-Man is in kraven the Hunter movie?!?
https://youtu.be/MQAkjL--gD8
https://youtu.be/0Bnn7CLJLF0
I guess it doesnt mean anything yet but its something... right?
https://youtu.be/MQAkjL--gD8
https://youtu.be/0Bnn7CLJLF0
I guess it doesnt mean anything yet but its something... right?
