TheManWithoutFear said:
Agreed. How'd he end up in the Himalayas? I want explainations. Good ones. and Mexican characters could be needed in the UU, I can't think of any.
And Ice, your opening statement sort of set the tone for "You don't know what you're talking about. Wolverine is essential to all Marvel titles" I'm very understanding to two things that people don't really seem to catch and just take my rants as such. Useing Ultimate Wolverine as the example.
1. There are plausible reasons for Wolverine's connections to these other characters. They don't just come off as Wolverine out of no where.
2. These things can be well written. I'm not saying that just because Wolverine is in it means it's not going to be entertaining or not make sense.
What I am saying is it's unnesessary and Marvel should be smarter about putting Logan into all of this like they did in 616. Wolverine isn't a draw from my POV because it seems like more people hate him then embrace him.
Here's how I look at it. Marvel is a business first. They aim to sell as many books as possible to make as much money as possible. Now, despite the raving anti-Wolverine attitude of many "fanboys", there's a reason he's in so many titles in 616, and thats cuz a good portion of the comic buying public like the character in some respects...whether its recognizability or whatever reason. Does this mean he can't be overused? No, as is obviously the case in 616 (I mean how many books/minis is the guy in on an average basis, like 50 per month). Now Ultimate Wolverine is a different story, but this is probably merely because the Ultimate Universe is still young and doesn't have as many titles to spread him around in (though its fair to say the writers have done a good job of this so far, what with his presence in UXM and appearances in UMTU a couple of times, USM on several occasions, several minis-UW, UN, probably UE). Either way, a long time ago Marvel realized it was a character people liked, so can you fault them for using him to do what is the point of a business (which is obviously to make money). Now does this mean he can't be overused? Obviously not, as really he
is overused in the 616 universe, especially given his loner attitude doesn't work well with team books, one team, the X-Men was believable, but the multiple teams he's on now (X-Men and Avengers, plus his other occasional team-ups) doesn't work well for the "lone wolf" characterization he's had since his introduction. I don't think we've hit that point yet in the Ultimate universe, but we're well on the way.
But the point is, its entirely believable given Wolverine's performing Black Ops for Fury in the past he'd be called in for this, for several reasons:
1.) Fury might not want to use the Ultimates team (the only ones known to be capable of taking down the Hulk) for a couple reasons: the traitor fiasco, the bad publicity they've already gotten over the Hulk debacle, the team's currently weakened state--in the original Hulk vs. Ultimates fight, the entire base team was together--Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, Giant Man, Wasp, etc. Out of that line-up, only Cap, Iron Man, and Wasp are still active members... sorry, but I don't think Cap is capable of standing toe to toe with Hulk for long, and Iron Man and Wasp surely aren't (despite Wasp's pivotal role in bringing him down last time). Any number of these reasons, or something completely different, might be why Fury isn't using the Ultimates again.
2.) Wolverine has done at least a few Black Ops missions for Fury in the past, and Fury knows he can trust Logan to keep quiet about things (especially since even telepaths like Xavier and Jean can't read his mind). He's also got the healing factor and adamantium-laced bones going for him too, so he's almost as indestructible as the Hulk himself, and probably just as ruthless in a more cunning way.
3.) Apparently Fury has been trying to keep tabs on Bruce to a degree, but the first we heard of him since the end of Ultimates 2 #3 was the Annual, and this was a fluke. Fury would have no idea where he was had those climbers not reported what they saw and got a picture. Its also evident that Banner, while in the Hulk state, is better able to control himself (probably due to Xavier's sessions with him). It was mentioned he only killed the troublemakers, and left the innocents alone, whereas before he'd have probably just eaten them all, or at the very least killed them. This mean Bruce is operating smart, able to avoid SHIELD detection thus far, and apparently after as well as we didn't hear anymore about it. Wolverine just so happens to be an incredible tracker, due to his mutant abilities and special training, so maybe Fury realizes Wolverine might be the only one who could find him.
The point is there's a number of viable reasons for Wolverine to appear in this book, both in and out of context of the story. I think its unfair to pass judgement when we know so little about a project, especially considering I know for a fact at least 90% of those *****ing will probably pick up at least the first issue, if not more depending on their opinion of that issue. I know I'll be getting them all, but thats just me.
