Shade
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sounds like the bowler to me!
Dreamcasting # 9 - The New Avengers
- Thread starter Dr.Strangefate
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sounds like the bowler to me!
Dr.Strangefate
He Sees You When You're Sleeping. He Knows When Yo
Mystery Men is Amazing.
Joe Kalicki
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Agreed.
ourchair
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**** you. I ain't playing this round anymore.THE PREMISE
Conceptualized as a summer blockbuster, with a large effects budget. An unabashed "popcorn movie". The plot revolves around the formation of the group, in response to a prison break at a jail for super-villains. Eight heroes from different parts of the Marvel Universe pursue their escaped arch-nemeses, individually. They soon realize they will need to stick together, in order to prevent their foes from executing an ill-defined nefarious world-conquering scheme.
My director of choice is Tim Minear, who is responsible for memorable episodes of The X-Files, Firefly, Wonderfalls, The Inside, Angel, and Lois & Clark. With a background as diverse as that, he's prepared to handle the mixed bag of characters in New Avengers.
THE CAST
Alan Rickman as Dr. Strange. I don't feel the need to justify this choice. If you're familiar with Rickman's work, I think it pretty much speaks for itself.
Carla Gugino as Spider-Woman. Honestly, I never paid much attention to her, during her stint as the eponymous U.S. Marshal on Karen Sisco. Nor did I pay much attention to her role as retired secret agent Ingrid Cortez in the Spy Kids movies. No, I picked her as the duplicitous Jessica Drew on the basis of her performance as uncompromising, hard-nosed crisis manager (read: cover-up specialist) Molly Caffrey in the under-rated Threshold.
Leonard Roberts as Luke Cage. Cage may posture like he's a 'playa' or an 'original gangsta', but when it's all said and done, he's basically a family man, looking out for the interests of his wife and newborn child. And he won't hesitate to bust heads to keep his loved ones safe. That's why Cage is the perfect role for Roberts, most recently seen as D.L. Hawkins on Heroes.
Caroline Dhavernas as Jessica Jones. The role of Jessica Jones calls for somebody who can play a survivor; a tough woman who's lived through her share of traumatic crap, and now wants to settle down into something resembling normalcy. She needs to be at once vulnerable to the ever-present threat of super-powered menace in her life, but also fully capable of dealing with any trouble that comes her way. With that in mind, I picked former Wonderfalls star Dhavernas.
Jared Leto as The Sentry. The Sentry is a character who is meant to be charismatic and conventionally good-looking enough to be a former icon of American heroic idealism. But he's also a severely damaged and mentally unstable persona. I'm convinced that Jared Leto -- no stranger to tragic figures -- would competently bring this difficult figure to life.
Justin Theroux as Wolverine. Wolvie needs to be at once physically intimading, but also capable of being occassionally goofy. That neatly sums up what Theroux does best -- for example, his wonderfully over-the-top "psychotic Irish gangster" role in Charlie's Angels 2: Full Throttle.
Christopher Gorham as Spider-Man. As others have mentioned, Spidey needs to be the Everyman. He's the reluctant adult with the wife and family to look out for, who can't help but play dress-up and hang out with the guys -- and often finds himself knee-deep in danger, as a result. I decided to go with Christopher Gorham, who made his debut as the likeable Harrison on Popular, then went on to pedestrian sci-fi fare like Jake 2.0. He's now a recurring guest on Ugly Betty, where he's proven that he's got the right kind of geeky, boy-next-door charm to justify the role of the Friendly Neighborhood Web-Slinger.
Clive Owen as Iron Man. This is 616 Tony Stark we're talking about -- a likeable, roguish bastard with more of an ethical conscience than he's willing to admit to. It's precisely the kind of role that permitted Owen to make a name for himself, in movies like Children of Men and Sin City.
Scott Speedman as Captain America. By far, the most difficult role to cast. Also, not coincidentally, the one I have the least confidence in. I decided to go with Underworld's Scott Speedman on the basis of his generic all-American looks alone. I just might change my pick, if I'm able to think of a satisfactory replacement, before the deadline.
So there you go -- a loose mix of TV mainstays and established film actors. Hopefully, they would have the chemistry necessary to pull off a team-oriented movie like NA.
All I had was David Boreanaz as Captain America.
Mother****ing pwned us all.
Victor Von Doom
Fist of teh Internets.
BWAHAHAHAHA! You're just as pissed as I am.
I fear this will continue in several "We Hate Compound" PMs. :wink:
ourchair
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I doubt it. I'm already out of space in my PM box from our last "We Hate Compound" PMversation.
compound
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I'm pretty sure I've wanted to say that to Ann Coulter, Shannen Doherty, and Lindsay Lohan, at different points in time.
ourchair
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Are you saying Doom's Manmilk is not good enough for your vagina!??!?!?!
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Victor Von Doom
Fist of teh Internets.
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That's right. An all LOL smiley-Multi quote post. Bow at my greatness. Or at least get me a beer. Guinness *****. Make it snappy!
ourchair
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Bass
Nexus of the World
While I disagree I still say 'yes'. I love Eric Bana. He's superb.
I wish you would. I thought about her then realised that she a) doesn't look like her, b) I've never seen her in a film and don't know what she can/can't do , and c) I don't know much about Spider-Woman to cast her anyway. I picked Biel because she's a famous 'action heroine' and realised I thought that decision process (considering how much I thought about the others) was a BS reason for me to pick her. But I'd like to know your reasons, please.
I know Mark Millar said Brad Pitt should be Cap, but I think Sentry is more appropriate. I actually want him to play Ultimate Thor though. I think he'd be REALLY good.
These are brilliant. I loved Compound's Dr Strange/Alan Rickman, but I prefer Brad Dourif. He'd be crazy good. And Bruce Willis is an inspired choice for Fury.
"How did your father die?"
"He fell down an elevator shaft and onto some bullets."
"I heard they suspected foul play."
"So did I!"
I considered him, but Boreanaz makes a better Batman.
Actually, *mounts high horse* I kinda don't think it's important to cast someone who looks like the character (as for fitting the writing - I wouldn't know, I don't read New Avengers). That's what make-up and costumes is for, they just have to be in the ballpark. What really aggravates me in most films with 'ensemble casts' is one of two things:
Firstly, one part of the ensemble cast is played by a MAJOR star (like DeNiro or something) and the rest aren't. The big problem with this is that if this film existed, it wouldn't be a TEAM film, it would be a film about the major star's character, guest-starring the rest. The stars need to be on an even level (look at the Ocean's movies to see what I mean). If it's just two main characters, one can be a major star and the other not, and it'll work okay as a duo (like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - Robert Redford was an unknown at the time, but it's okay because it's a buddy movie, the star just shares the screen with one guy and is always there, in an ensemble, that's not the case). So I get aggravated when I hear some property with an ensemble cast is being made and there's ONE huge star in it (League of Extraordinary Gentlemen) who dominates the film. I prefer it when you have an even keel of stardom (The Lord of the Rings) because the audience doesn't immediately (and naturally) assume the star parts the 'main' part.
Secondly, I really hate this moment in films - "Who's that guy? Isn't that guy the guy from earlier?" "No, different guy." "Oh, they look the same." Happens all the time. Characters looking and acting the same and you get confused (happens with names too). I think the cast should be each, unique in their visual appearance - they shouldn't be remotely like one another. It helps polarise the cast and make them far more entertaining.
With these two things, I picked my cast. So all the actors are about as well-known as any other (generally they're 'cult' icons) so there's no star-dominance, and they all look and act wildly different from one another. And I did a small other thing - I looked at it very much from a point of view of really, physically producing it, and holistically. So you've got an interesting cast, each chosen for a unique purpose, that when put together work. But this is my own personal stuff so I don't anyone to actually agree - but it's how I see it.
Bass
Nexus of the World
And another thing - it occurred to me that my approach of assembling a bunch of mismatching actors together to play the Avengers is insanely appropriate since that's the approach used to make the roster of the Avengers. See what I mean? All this mismatched actors you're uncertain how they'll work together - just replace 'actors' with 'superheroes' and it's the same damn approach to how the Avengers got started up. I'm not saying I'm a genius (I am) but I'm just say it's odd that my approach to the casting was so similar.
I don't care if I'm tootin' my own trumpet (I do that a lot if you get my drift) I've discovered my own awareness of myself and I'm proclaiming it, Columbo style, biznatches (Columbo said biznatches all the time).
I don't care if I'm tootin' my own trumpet (I do that a lot if you get my drift) I've discovered my own awareness of myself and I'm proclaiming it, Columbo style, biznatches (Columbo said biznatches all the time).
compound
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Not getting any, I presume? :twisted:
Bass
Nexus of the World
Krista Allen won't return my stalker e-mails. :cry: :cry:
thee great one
Master of TOG-fu.
I'm not doing this one either. Too many people with too many good choices.
Bah I say.
Bah I say.
Actually, *mounts high horse* I kinda don't think it's important to cast someone who looks like the character (as for fitting the writing - I wouldn't know, I don't read New Avengers). That's what make-up and costumes is for, they just have to be in the ballpark. What really aggravates me in most films with 'ensemble casts' is one of two things:
Firstly, one part of the ensemble cast is played by a MAJOR star (like DeNiro or something) and the rest aren't. The big problem with this is that if this film existed, it wouldn't be a TEAM film, it would be a film about the major star's character, guest-starring the rest. The stars need to be on an even level (look at the Ocean's movies to see what I mean). If it's just two main characters, one can be a major star and the other not, and it'll work okay as a duo (like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - Robert Redford was an unknown at the time, but it's okay because it's a buddy movie, the star just shares the screen with one guy and is always there, in an ensemble, that's not the case). So I get aggravated when I hear some property with an ensemble cast is being made and there's ONE huge star in it (League of Extraordinary Gentlemen) who dominates the film. I prefer it when you have an even keel of stardom (The Lord of the Rings) because the audience doesn't immediately (and naturally) assume the star parts the 'main' part.
Secondly, I really hate this moment in films - "Who's that guy? Isn't that guy the guy from earlier?" "No, different guy." "Oh, they look the same." Happens all the time. Characters looking and acting the same and you get confused (happens with names too). I think the cast should be each, unique in their visual appearance - they shouldn't be remotely like one another. It helps polarise the cast and make them far more entertaining.
With these two things, I picked my cast. So all the actors are about as well-known as any other (generally they're 'cult' icons) so there's no star-dominance, and they all look and act wildly different from one another. And I did a small other thing - I looked at it very much from a point of view of really, physically producing it, and holistically. So you've got an interesting cast, each chosen for a unique purpose, that when put together work. But this is my own personal stuff so I don't anyone to actually agree - but it's how I see it.
I was trying to do an Ocean's Eleven thing to when I did my cast. My reasoning was that it would take the best and most well-known actors (who were right for the part.) to play Earth's Mightiest Heroes.
Bass
Nexus of the World
Yeah, I totally agree with that. Either go for the misfits (as I did) or the all-star cast.
Dr.Strangefate
He Sees You When You're Sleeping. He Knows When Yo
Marvelman = Disqualified Forever
Also: Compound, I'm not a big fan of your casting this round, because a LOT of those people can't act well... They look the part, but that's about it... Especially Speedman as Cap.
And Bass, I came up with Bruce Willis as Nick Fury AGES ago... I even made a picture!
Also: Compound, I'm not a big fan of your casting this round, because a LOT of those people can't act well... They look the part, but that's about it... Especially Speedman as Cap.
And Bass, I came up with Bruce Willis as Nick Fury AGES ago... I even made a picture!
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thee great one
Master of TOG-fu.
I could play Luke Cage.
