Dreamcasting # 9 - The New Avengers

Vincent D'Onofrio already played Thor in Adventures in Babysitting!

He's put on a lot of weight since that picture though. . .
 
Whoa. Loads of posts. And damn, what's with the really HUGE pictures?!?

You're all damn lucky I just upgraded to broadband yesterday, or I'd be doing my "I'm on dial-up" whining again.

DSF, how long is the round? 7 days as always? And is this a movie or a TV show?

Bass, Adam Baldwin as Wolverine is genius.

VVD, Chiwetel Ejiofor is one cool dude. But I disagree on using him as Luke Cage. But you already know how picky I am about casting blacks and Asians.
 
Spider-Man - Andy Serkis
Okay - Andy Serkis (Gollum) makes a terrible Peter Parker. Doesn't even remotely look like him. You hire another guy to play Peter Parker. That actor does the voice of Spider-Man too. But in the Avengers film, the majority of Spider-Man will be a guy in tights doing all kinds of acrobatics. What this means is you need a guy who can create a character with his body - not his face, nor his voice. Andy Serkis could do this brilliantly. You can easily get away with another guy doing the voice - it worked fine for Darth Vader.
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Genius. It's a shame they didn't do that in the Spider-Man movies--I hated his CGI look.
 
Isn't Adam Baldwin well over six feet tall?

So?

Genius. It's a shame they didn't do that in the Spider-Man movies--I hated his CGI look.

Me too. I found him dull. I have to say, one of my favourite joys about this was looking on the 'net for pictures of the actors and suddenly finding a picture that proved my point. Chris Barrie's pic IS Tony Stark. Serkis IS Spider-Man. Look at it! I felt so validated finding those. :D
 
Well there goes Bass. Always dashing my hopes of actually winning this competition.
 
THE PREMISE
Conceptualized as a summer blockbuster, with a large effects budget. An unabashed "popcorn movie". The plot revolves around the formation of the group, in response to a prison break at a jail for super-villains. Eight heroes from different parts of the Marvel Universe pursue their escaped arch-nemeses, individually. They soon realize they will need to stick together, in order to prevent their foes from executing an ill-defined nefarious world-conquering scheme.

My director of choice is Tim Minear, who is responsible for memorable episodes of The X-Files, Firefly, Wonderfalls, The Inside, Angel, and Lois & Clark. With a background as diverse as that, he's prepared to handle the mixed bag of characters in New Avengers.


THE CAST

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Alan Rickman as Dr. Strange. I don't feel the need to justify this choice. If you're familiar with Rickman's work, I think it pretty much speaks for itself.

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Carla Gugino as Spider-Woman. Honestly, I never paid much attention to her, during her stint as the eponymous U.S. Marshal on Karen Sisco. Nor did I pay much attention to her role as retired secret agent Ingrid Cortez in the Spy Kids movies. No, I picked her as the duplicitous Jessica Drew on the basis of her performance as uncompromising, hard-nosed crisis manager (read: cover-up specialist) Molly Caffrey in the under-rated Threshold.

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Leonard Roberts as Luke Cage. Cage may posture like he's a 'playa' or an 'original gangsta', but when it's all said and done, he's basically a family man, looking out for the interests of his wife and newborn child. And he won't hesitate to bust heads to keep his loved ones safe. That's why Cage is the perfect role for Roberts, most recently seen as D.L. Hawkins on Heroes.

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Caroline Dhavernas as Jessica Jones. The role of Jessica Jones calls for somebody who can play a survivor; a tough woman who's lived through her share of traumatic crap, and now wants to settle down into something resembling normalcy. She needs to be at once vulnerable to the ever-present threat of super-powered menace in her life, but also fully capable of dealing with any trouble that comes her way. With that in mind, I picked former Wonderfalls star Dhavernas.

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Jared Leto as The Sentry. The Sentry is a character who is meant to be charismatic and conventionally good-looking enough to be a former icon of American heroic idealism. But he's also a severely damaged and mentally unstable persona. I'm convinced that Jared Leto -- no stranger to tragic figures -- would competently bring this difficult figure to life.

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Justin Theroux as Wolverine. Wolvie needs to be at once physically intimading, but also capable of being occassionally goofy. That neatly sums up what Theroux does best -- for example, his wonderfully over-the-top "psychotic Irish gangster" role in Charlie's Angels 2: Full Throttle.

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Christopher Gorham as Spider-Man. As others have mentioned, Spidey needs to be the Everyman. He's the reluctant adult with the wife and family to look out for, who can't help but play dress-up and hang out with the guys -- and often finds himself knee-deep in danger, as a result. I decided to go with Christopher Gorham, who made his debut as the likeable Harrison on Popular, then went on to pedestrian sci-fi fare like Jake 2.0. He's now a recurring guest on Ugly Betty, where he's proven that he's got the right kind of geeky, boy-next-door charm to justify the role of the Friendly Neighborhood Web-Slinger.

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Clive Owen as Iron Man. This is 616 Tony Stark we're talking about -- a likeable, roguish bastard with more of an ethical conscience than he's willing to admit to. It's precisely the kind of role that permitted Owen to make a name for himself, in movies like Children of Men and Sin City.

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Scott Speedman as Captain America. By far, the most difficult role to cast. Also, not coincidentally, the one I have the least confidence in. I decided to go with Underworld's Scott Speedman on the basis of his generic all-American looks alone. I just might change my pick, if I'm able to think of a satisfactory replacement, before the deadline.

So there you go -- a loose mix of TV mainstays and established film actors. Hopefully, they would have the chemistry necessary to pull off a team-oriented movie like NA.
 
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THE PREMISE
Conceptualized as a summer blockbuster, with a large effects budget. An unabashed "popcorn movie". The plot revolves around the formation of the group, in response to a prison break at a jail for super-villains. Eight heroes from different parts of the Marvel Universe pursue their escaped arch-nemeses, individually. They soon realize they will need to stick together, in order to prevent their foes from executing an ill-defined nefarious world-conquering scheme.

My director of choice is Tim Minear, who is responsible for memorable episodes of The X-Files, Firefly, Wonderfalls, The Inside, Angel, and Lois & Clark. With a background as diverse as that, he's prepared to handle the mixed bag of characters in New Avengers.


THE CAST

doctorstrange.jpg

Alan Rickman as Dr. Strange. I don't feel the need to justify this choice. If you're familiar with Rickman's work, I think it pretty much speaks for itself.

spiderwoman.jpg

Carla Gugino as Spider-Woman. Honestly, I never paid much attention to her, during her stint as the eponymous U.S. Marshal on Karen Sisco. Nor did I pay much attention to her role as retired secret agent Ingrid Cortez in the Spy Kids movies. No, I picked her as the duplicitous Jessica Drew on the basis of her performance as uncompromising, hard-nosed crisis manager (read: cover-up specialist) Molly Caffrey in the under-rated Threshold.

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Leonard Roberts as Luke Cage. Cage may posture like he's a 'playa' or an 'original gangsta', but when it's all said and done, he's basically a family man, looking out for the interests of his wife and newborn child. And he won't hesitate to bust heads to keep his loved ones safe. That's why Cage is the perfect role for Roberts, most recently seen as D.L. Hawkins on Heroes.

jessicajones.jpg

Caroline Dhavernas as Jessica Jones. The role of Jessica Jones calls for somebody who can play a survivor; a tough woman who's lived through her share of traumatic crap, and now wants to settle down into something resembling normalcy. She needs to be at once vulnerable to the ever-present threat of super-powered menace in her life, but also fully capable of dealing with any trouble that comes her way. With that in mind, I picked former Wonderfalls star Dhavernas.

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Jared Leto as The Sentry. The Sentry is a character who is meant to be charismatic and conventionally good-looking enough to be a former icon of American heroic idealism. But he's also a severely damaged and mentally unstable persona. I'm convinced that Jared Leto -- no stranger to tragic figures -- would competently bring this difficult figure to life.

wolverine.jpg

Justin Theroux as Wolverine. Wolvie needs to be at once physically intimading, but also capable of being occassionally goofy. That neatly sums up what Theroux does best -- for example, his wonderfully over-the-top "psychotic Irish gangster" role in Charlie's Angels 2: Full Throttle.

spiderman.jpg

Christopher Gorham as Spider-Man. As others have mentioned, Spidey needs to be the Everyman. He's the reluctant adult with the wife and family to look out for, who can't help but play dress-up and hang out with the guys -- and often finds himself knee-deep in danger, as a result. I decided to go with Christopher Gorham, who made his debut as the likeable Harrison on Popular, then went on to pedestrian sci-fi fare like Jake 2.0. He's now a recurring guest on Ugly Betty, where he's proven that he's got the right kind of geeky, boy-next-door charm to justify the role of the Friendly Neighborhood Web-Slinger.

ironman.jpg

Clive Owen as Iron Man. This is 616 Tony Stark we're talking about -- a likeable, roguish bastard with more of an ethical conscience than he's willing to admit to. It's precisely the kind of role that permitted Owen to make a name for himself, in movies like Children of Men and Sin City.

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Scott Speedman as Captain America. By far, the most difficult role to cast. Also, not coincidentally, the one I have the least confidence in. I decided to go with Underworld's Scott Speedman on the basis of his generic all-American looks alone. I just might change my pick, if I'm able to think of a satisfactory replacement, before the deadline.

So there you go -- a loose mix of TV mainstays and established film actors. Hopefully, they would have the chemistry necessary to pull off a team-oriented movie like NA.


I ****ing hate you. Have my babies.
 
cast for new avengers

Captain America - Eric Bana

Iron Man - George Clooney

Spider-Man - Paul Rudd

Wolverine - Clive Owen

Luke Cage - LL Cool J

Spider-Woman - Jessica Biel

The Sentry - Brad Pitt

Matt Murdock - Gale Harold

Dr. Strange - Liam Neeson

Jessica Jones - Janeane Garofalo

Colonel Nick Fury - Bruce Willis

Commander Maria Hill - Carrie-Anne Moss

RAFT ESCAPEES

Purple Man - Cillian Murphy

Electro - Tim Roth

descriptions and images (and defense) coming soon...

maybe a few more raft escapees. i like raft escapees. they... escaped the raft.
 
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****.

Now I want to see this film.
Now I want to see your version, too!

What I like best about your choices is that they aren't the most *obvious* ones, but they totally fit the way the individual characters have been written, thus far.

I don't know how exactly they would fare, once you've got them all interacting together, but I would LOVE to find out.
 
Paul Rudd as Spider-Man and Janeane Garofalo as Jessica Jones are brilliant choices...

I am now Picturing Janeane going through everything Jessica's gone through, and the only thing that I can't picture her doing is becoming a pink haired superhero... But that only makes her more perfect, because she would pull off realizing how terrible an idea it was for her to get into superheroism beautifully...

And her relationship with Peter Parker in HS is beautifully reminiscent of her character in Romy & Michelle's High School Reunion. Which I am totally cool with.
 
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cast for new avengers

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captain america - eric bana
i know he's not actually american but i feel he has enough of the look to pull it off, plus i feel his performance in munich is proof enough that he could play steve rogers.

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iron man - george clooney
george clooney was made to be a drunken playboy. in a robot suit.

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spider-man - paul rudd
he's got enough of a balance between serious and silly to be our man parker.

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wolverine - clive owen
he can play a tough guy, and i say with the right haircut he's our wolverine.

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luke cage - ll cool j
he's got the look, and he generally plays a compassionate tough guy in most movies anyhow.

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spider-woman - jessica biel
i don't feel i need to justify this one.

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the sentry - brad pitt
twelve monkeys proves he can play crazy and not just be eye-candy.
 
optional cast members

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matt murdock - gale harold
this one was annoying to cast, but i really think that he works.

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dr. strange - brad dourif
against advice, i'm going with dourif, but i think he's played enough strange things that he could do the part, plus i think he really has the look, in a weird way. imagine darker hair.

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jessica jones - janeane garofalo
she just fits.

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colonel nick fury - bruce willis
at some point in his career, bruce willis became a quintessential military commander, and he's got the gruff to play fury.

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commander maria hill - carrie-anne moss
it was unpleasant to pull a matrix pic for this, but her with short hair= commander hill.

RAFT ESCAPEES

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purple man - cillian murphy
he can play creepy mother****er, and looks nice in a suit.

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electro - tim roth
imagine that grin a little more maniacal, and there you go.

eh, sorry about the big pictures.
 
I really like most of your choices, Shade. Especially the ones you've chosen for the optional cast.
 
If this were a movie based on Bendis' Alias, then yes, i'd cast Garofalo in a heartbeat. I've enjoyed 75% of the movies she's been in, and even in the remaining 25% that I didn't like, I still appreciated her performances. She's perfect for the role; she's a great radio personality with awesome political insights; and I love her in ways that are probably inappropriate to feel about a celebrity.

But unfortunately, this is a New Avengers movie, lest we forget, meaning Jessica Jones is not a complex, tragic superheroine-turned-detective-turned-bodyguard; she's Luke Cage's Wife and Recent Mother, who happens to be a bad-*** super-tough mama, in her own right, who can hold her own when a vengeful escaped super-villain comes (literally) knocking on the door of the family apartment. She's meant to be the one valiantly fighting to keep her personal and public life seperate. And that seems like too limited a role for an actress like Garofalo, at this stage in her career.

But Tim Roth as Electro is absolutely perfect!
 

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