Dreamcasting # 2: The Ultimates

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Nothing personal.

I just researched her wanting to see if I wanted to cast her, then decided I didn't really want her to play Wasp. Doesn't mean I'm against other people casting her or anything like that.

Hurry up and post your picks!


I always look forward to you and Compound's choices. Mainly because I know they're always good choices that go beyond the resemblance phase of casting and force you to picture the actor in that role. Always great choices.
 
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Hurry up and post your picks!


I always look forward to you and Compound's choices. Mainly because I know they're always good choices that go beyond the resemblance phase of casting and force you to picture the actor in that role. Always great choices.
Cap and Thor are a pain.

There are a LOT of good actors who could play Cap, but I want someone with classical good looks. Like really old-school good looks. And Thor needs to be capable of a larger than life old European presence and conversational charisma. Tough, huh?

I'm intentionally trying to cast people I didn't mention before in previous threads or people who Compound did not cast himself when he threw Marc Ruffalo, Jared Leto, Monica Belucci, et al.
 
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Cap and Thor are a pain.

There are a LOT of good actors who could play Cap, but I want someone with classical good looks. Like really old-school good looks. And Thor needs to be capable of a larger than life old European presence and conversational charisma. Tough, huh?

I know huh?

Back in the original thread I said Brad Pitt for Cap. But that's just too easy.....and in retrospect.....the wrong person period. In the end I chose Aaron because not only does he have that classic look....but he's got the build and he's got the acting skills. Hell....aside from an unknown---I don't think I'd accept anyone as Cap.

I remember MWoF had a great choice for Thor. He chose Sean Bean. Which might seem off at first.....but it could work.
 
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I know huh?

Back in the original thread I said Brad Pitt for Cap. But that's just too easy.....and in retrospect.....the wrong person period. In the end I chose Aaron because not only does he have that classic look....but he's got the build and he's got the acting skills. Hell....aside from an unknown---I don't think I'd accept anyone as Cap.

I remember MWoF had a great choice for Thor. He chose Sean Bean. Which might seem off at first.....but it could work.
Everybody loves Aaron Eckhart now, hahahah. :p

But I've been watching this guy for awhile. Too bad I didn't get into the HSX earlier. I would totally have been able to invest in him at rock-bottom share prices.

Oh, and it took me THREE nights of research to decide on Wasp. This is how seriously I take this stuff.
 
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Cap and Thor are a pain.

There are a LOT of good actors who could play Cap, but I want someone with classical good looks. Like really old-school good looks. And Thor needs to be capable of a larger than life old European presence and conversational charisma. Tough, huh?

I'm intentionally trying to cast people I didn't mention before in previous threads or people who Compound did not cast himself when he threw Marc Ruffalo, Jared Leto, Monica Belucci, et al.

I like my picks for them


now I think people may disagree on Paul Levesque (HHH) just because he's a wrestler (if you disagree for other reasons that's cool) but I honestly think Jason Lewis is with out a doubt perfect for Captain America
 
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I'm a little behind on this one. Here goes...

Captain America - For this I would take Eric Dane (Dr. Sloan from Grey's Anatomy/Madrox from X3) or Josh Duhamel (Las Vegas/Transformers). I think both guys have some decent chops and this could be a breakout role for either.

Tony Stark/Iron Man - Rob Lowe. After Thank You for Smoking and his current role on Brothers & Sisters, I think he's perfect for Stark.

Thor - I like VVD's choice of Viggo, but I'd go with Josh Holloway from Lost (Sawyer). He's a little younger than Viggo but they have a similar look which could work for Thor. Plus, he's good at playing the rabble rouser.

Hank Pym/Giant Man - Aaron Eckhart. I think he would've been perfect for Cap about 10-15 years ago but at this point, he'd make a great Pym.

Janet Pym/Wasp - Alyssa Milano. A friend of mine sent me a picture of her recently where she was a dead ringer for Ultimate Janet Pym. Plus, she's a tantalizing bit of eye candy.

Bruce Banner/Hulk - I've always liked the idea of Steve Buscemi as Banner, but I also think that Robert Downey, Jr. would do a good job with it. Since both of them are a little older than Banner in Ultimates, though... maybe someone like Zach Braff. I know it's a little odd, but he's good in the shy/meek guy type role as seen in Garden State and Scrubs, which is a big part of Banner and his dynamic with the superego Hulk.

Natasha Romanov/Black Widow - Famke Janssen. Yeah, she's been Jean Grey but before that, she was Xenia Onatopp in Goldeneye and she nailed that role. She's a natural for the sexpot Russian assassin/spy role.

Clint Barton/Hawkeye - Give Johnny Knoxville some archery training and he's Hawkeye, period.

Pietro Maximoff/Quicksilver - This is a tough role to cast. Paul Bettany, maybe... but I think someone a little younger, like Ryan Gosling, might be a better idea.

Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch- I'm drawing a blank except for Mischa Barton.

Nick Fury - Obvious choice of Samuel L. Jackson. You can say I'm not trying hard enough, but the character was modeled after him. I won't accept some poor man's SLJ for this role.
 
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Okay, since the game version of this doesn't really seem to be catching on (or maybe i'm just crazy)... Why not just turn this into a general Dreamcasting Thread?

I have an idea for a "Formerly Known as the Justice League" cast with Jason Bateman as Ted Kord... I have a few more casting ideas... but yeah...

Since it's on my mind, and I don't want to forget it, Here's my cast for a "Super Buddies" TV-Show, and so I'm using primarily TV Actors... I'm also judging them based on their comedic styles in their previous roles and how I think they'd work together....

Max Lord - Jeremy Niven (Entourage) - I was looking first for someone who could grin a person into a contract, but then I remembered that Niven voiced Elongated Man on JLU, and realized that who better could play a total sleazeball oppurtunist like Max better than Jeremy Niven. If I were more interested in the domineering classy side of Max, I'd say Alec Baldwin... But I think Niven would be a great choice

Blue Beetle - Jason Bateman (Arrested Development) - This is the casting that got me started thinking about all of this... His great comedic timing, His charming good (but-not-too-good) looks. He can play smart and funny at the same time. I can't get over this idea... I wish I had the money so i could make this show for him to star in.

Booster Gold - I AM DRAWING A TOTAL BLANK FOR BOOSTER!!! RAWWR!! It needs to be someone good with Stupid Comedy, someone who can genuinely look like he doesn't know what people are talking about. He also would need to play off Jason Bateman well... I'd almost suggest Will Arnett, but then we'd have the Bluth Children, sans Buster... Any Ideas?

Fire - Portia De Rossi (Arrested Development) - Yeah, Yeah, she's not Brazilian... In Formerly Known as the Justice League they make virtually no reference to her ethnicity, and it works just fine. I think that Ms. Rossi would be great in this role... She's funny and she's beautiful, and guys would probably pay to see her naked covered with green flames.

Mary Marvel - Jewel Staite (Firefly) - Innocence, Beauty, and a wholesome sexiness that ties it all together.

Captain Atom - Nathan Fillion (Firefly) - This might be a weird choice, but I think that this would be great casting. He has the soldier act down pat, as well as being an authority figure, but he's also got a sense of humor that a lot of people who might be considered for this role don't have.

Elongated Man - Matthew Perry (Friends, Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip) - Insecurity, Vaguely irritating on many levels, but altogether lovable. The other good thing is that he can transition very well from being a wacky character who bounces off other people and his wife very well, to a person who very clearly cares about others and would probably go crazy if Jean Loring burnt his wife to death.

Sue Dibny - Courtney Cox (Friends) - Okay, I feel guilty about putting this down here, because basically then the relationship between Sue and Ralph would be Monica and Chandler round II. The thing is that they -did- bounce off eachother very well... She'd be a little more laid back than Monica was in Friends, and she'd be a bit more loving... In the end, I could see her, but I don't think she's the best choice, I'm happy for suggestions

There's also the "villains" of the series... Guy Gardner could show up and open his bar in the same stripmall. There's also the E Street Bloodsuckers (the superhuman street gang with a harvard education... for the big white guy I could easily see Nate Torrence from Studio 60). Then there's Roulette... As a TV Show we'd have to look beyond the two miniseries... Set up a relationship between the town council and Max Lord... Have some bigger heroes show up every now and then, reference batman and superman... All that fun stuff.
 
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Okay, since the game version of this doesn't really seem to be catching on (or maybe i'm just crazy)... Why not just turn this into a general Dreamcasting Thread?

I agree that would better. I loved your Super Buddies idea.


Here's mine for a trilogy

Since turtles and Transformers are been redone I figured why not. I think I may of used this idea before but here it goes




Lion-o - Tom Welling : I think with right make up and hair style he would look like Lion-o plus I think he could pull off comical scenes e.g snarf scenes maybe not most people choice but I think he would be good

Panthro - Samuel L. Jackson - How cool would Samuel L. Jackson as Panthro be? seriously he would be just like cartoon maybe even a little more bad ***

Tygra - This is a hard one. He needs to be both wise yet not too old or too wise I'll go with Liam Neeson He can pull off the wise part , not too old plus as we have seen in star wars episode I and batman begins he can do some good fight scenes

Cheetara - Sarah Michelle Gellar - I picked her as she can do the seriousness of Cheetara and can do fight scenes so This could work out well.

WillyKit and WillyKat - I can not do this as I do not know any child actors who I would want in film

Snarf - CGI character like Garfield. Since original voice actor is dead I'll say Michael J. Fox as i think his normal voice would well with snarf's character

The mutants I would say cgi mixed with live action like gollem on LOTR and voiced by people who can do good impressions of original voices

Mumm-Ra - Who else but Ian McDiarmid could pull this off? When transformed I would say bulk up Ian McDiarmid with cgi like they did to make hulk and keep his voice.

Jaga - Ian McKellen. Another perfect choice I think
 
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Panthro was my fave Thundercat so im gonna have to say a big NO to sam jackson as panthro.
 
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Panthro was my fave Thundercat so im gonna have to say a big NO to sam jackson as panthro.

You don't think he could pull panthro off?
 
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no he needs to be a big dude with a calm voice. like Michael Clarke Duncan. i think thats his name, the dude who played kingpin in daredevil. he would be pretty good
 
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i just had to add this. i remember seeing it when it was posted in the comics2film DCG and just being pretty amazed at the manip work here.
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no he needs to be a big dude with a calm voice. like Michael Clarke Duncan. i think thats his name, the dude who played kingpin in daredevil. he would be pretty good

yeah He could so be good.


Reason I picked Jackson is his voice reminds of Panthro plus Panthro to me was always the tough guy / bad *** thundercat so i figured Samuel L. Jackson would bring that out more than most.
 
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no he needs to be a big dude with a calm voice. like Michael Clarke Duncan. i think thats his name, the dude who played kingpin in daredevil. he would be pretty good

I agree, he fits Panthro much better. I always thought Uma Thurman would make a good Cheetara
 
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yeah He could so be good.


Reason I picked Jackson is his voice reminds of Panthro plus Panthro to me was always the tough guy / bad *** thundercat so i figured Samuel L. Jackson would bring that out more than most.

i disagree. i dont really remember him being much of a bad ***. if by bad *** you mean "Mutha****in Snakes" then definitely no. he was a tough guy for definite. for me it would have to be either michale clarke duncan or ving rhames playing panthro

as far as Snarf goes, im gonna have to disagree with Michael J Fox too because seriously that is just too weird for me. i still cant get over Bill Murray being Garfield. not that Murray as Garfield is a bad thing its just too weird. better to get an unknown to do the voice for Snarf because really, anyone can do the Snarf impression
 
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i disagree. i dont really remember him being much of a bad ***. if by bad *** you mean "Mutha****in Snakes" then definitely no. he was a tough guy for definite. for me it would have to be either michale clarke duncan or ving rhames playing panthro

as far as Snarf goes, im gonna have to disagree with Michael J Fox too because seriously that is just too weird for me. i still cant get over Bill Murray being Garfield. not that Murray as Garfield is a bad thing its just too weird. better to get an unknown to do the voice for Snarf because really, anyone can do the Snarf impression

I'll agree to disagree on Panthro .


As for Bill Murray being Garfield thou was a stroke of genius why? because Bill Murray sounds just like cartoon version and so brilliant.

Snarf played by Michael J. Fox was also because the way I see it you can't get original don't try and replicate the voice. Michael J. Fox could bring a funny quality that snarf has but in a more serious way that could suit what I imagined



See I said trilogy but i don't see it as been just like cartoon but rather a more modern more serious take on it so it would appeal to new fans. Like the new transformers seems so far as if its more serious and modern and like original cartoon too much which is good as original cartoon was just "hello there OPTIMUS PRIME bet you didn't think you would see me MEGATRON again" every sentence mentioned names as it was just a 30 minute advert for toys. Still fun but an advert.
 
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I'm pretty proud of the cast I've assembled for Ultimates: Superhuman, if only for the fact that I have clear and justified reasons for casting them beyond 'they're talented enough and they look the part'. I did a lot of research too. And by research, I mean waste my time watching DVDs instead of writing papers.

Nick Fury, Director of SHIELD - As President David Palmer on 24, Dennis Haysbert has frequently been called upon to portray a Great Leader faced with moral and ethical conflict. As Nick Fury, Director General of SHIELD, Haysbert would feel at home as a leader whose intentions remain fundamentally good, but his inner beliefs intentionally ambiguous.

Antonio "Tony" Stark/Iron Man - Having cultivated a reputation for likably oafish characters such as Russell Hammond in Almost Famous and Tobey in Trust the Man (opposite David Duchovny's sexually addicted 'straight man'), Billy Crudup would be a logical choice to portray Tony Stark as a man who's apparent goofiness masks the heart of a sharp-minded philanthropist.

Robert Bruce Banner/The Hulk - Sometimes it seems like insecure nerdy types are a stock-in-trade cliche for character actors, but when we're talking about the meek genius with the heart of a raging sociopath, few actors would be a better fit than David Eigenberg. Eigenberg is best known for his role as the chronically insecure Steve Brady. However, he also turned in a memorable guest performance on CSI as Gavin McGill, a self-centered sociopath who murdered his supermodel wife, because he couldn't stand the pressure of being married to her.

Henry "Hank" Pym/Giant-Man - There's no mistaking that Aaron Eckhart has the ability to play the everyman as jerk, especially if you've seen him in Thank You For Smoking. He's also played one of those scientific "i told you so" types in The Core. Meld those two characters together and you've got Henry Pym, a show-boating scientist who lashes out at others when his aspirations exceed his reach.

Janet Van Dyne-Pym/The Wasp - The best person to bring Janet to life is Maggie Q, whose largest role to date was in Mission: Impossible III. However, as vulnerable young girl turned martial artist assassin Charlene Ching in Naked Weapon, Q proves that she can play both faces necessary for the character: the argumentative operative, and the insecure woman stuck in a co-dependent relationship.

Betty Ross, SHIELD Public Relations - If anyone has seen award-winning actress Mary-Louise Parker in The West Wing, then they'll recognize her ability to mix a ball-busting aggressiveness and fiercely uncompromising attitudes with geeky sexuality as Amy Gardner, a role that earned her an Emmy nomination. It's not much of a stretch to tweak the recipe a bit to play Betty Ross, a savage PR specialist and master manipulator of the media with bizarre turn-ons.

Steve Rogers/Captain America - Behind the war hero and the face of superhuman era, Captain America is the vulnerable old soldier who hangs his head low. That role requires a sensitive screen presence combined with an ability to deliver cocksure machismo. Here then belongs the unlikely Mark Wahlberg, who pulled off sensitive uncertainty in I Heart Huckabees as an ecologically concerned fireman and delivered effective toughness in Three Kings, while imbuing his part with a sense of everyman-like low key.

Thorlief Golman/Thor - **** man, I give up.

Notes on how I think: I was initially going to cast Michelle Forbes (Battlestar Galactica, 24: Season Two, Global Frequency) as Betty Ross. She's actually quite close in age with Mary-Louise Parker, but Forbes looks comparatively TOO mature. John C. McGinley of Scrubs (also voiced Ray Palmer, The Atom in JLU) was another choice I had for Henry Pym, but he lends too much of a comical air that contrasts too strongly with the rest of the cast. Jane Adams of Relativity looked the right age to play Janet opposite Eckhart's Hank, and specializes in fragile-looking neurotics, but her career is too dead.
 
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I'm pretty proud of the cast I've assembled for Ultimates: Superhuman, if only for the fact that I have clear and justified reasons for casting them beyond 'they're talented enough and they look the part'. I did a lot of research too. And by research, I mean waste my time watching DVDs instead of writing papers.

Nick Fury, Director of SHIELD - As President David Palmer on 24, Dennis Haysbert has frequently been called upon to portray a Great Leader faced with moral and ethical conflict. As Nick Fury, Director General of SHIELD, Haysbert would feel at home as a leader whose intentions remain fundamentally good, but his inner beliefs intentionally ambiguous.

Antonio "Tony" Stark/Iron Man - Having cultivated a reputation for likably oafish characters such as Russell Hammond in Almost Famous and Tobey in Trust the Man (opposite David Duchovny's sexually addicted 'straight man'), Billy Crudup would be a logical choice to portray Tony Stark as a man who's apparent goofiness masks the heart of a sharp-minded philanthropist.

Robert Bruce Banner/The Hulk - Sometimes it seems like insecure nerdy types are a stock-in-trade cliche for character actors, but when we're talking about the meek genius with the heart of a raging sociopath, few actors would be a better fit than David Eigenberg. Eigenberg is best known for his role as the chronically insecure Steve Brady. However, he also turned in a memorable guest performance on CSI as Gavin McGill, a self-centered sociopath who murdered his supermodel wife, because he couldn't stand the pressure of being married to her.

Henry "Hank" Pym/Giant-Man - There's no mistaking that Aaron Eckhart has the ability to play the everyman as jerk, especially if you've seen him in Thank You For Smoking. He's also played one of those scientific "i told you so" types in The Core. Meld those two characters together and you've got Henry Pym, a show-boating scientist who lashes out at others when his aspirations exceed his reach.

Janet Van Dyne-Pym/The Wasp - The best person to bring Janet to life is Maggie Q, whose largest role to date was in Mission: Impossible III. However, as vulnerable young girl turned martial artist assassin Charlene Ching in Naked Weapon, Q proves that she can play both faces necessary for the character: the argumentative operative, and the insecure woman stuck in a co-dependent relationship.

Betty Ross, SHIELD Public Relations - If anyone has seen award-winning actress Mary-Louise Parker in The West Wing, then they'll recognize her ability to mix a ball-busting aggressiveness and fiercely uncompromising attitudes with geeky sexuality as Amy Gardner, a role that earned her an Emmy nomination. It's not much of a stretch to tweak the recipe a bit to play Betty Ross, a savage PR specialist and master manipulator of the media with bizarre turn-ons.

Steve Rogers/Captain America - Behind the war hero and the face of superhuman era, Captain America is the vulnerable old soldier who hangs his head low. That role requires a sensitive screen presence combined with an ability to deliver cocksure machismo. Here then belongs the unlikely Mark Wahlberg, who pulled off sensitive uncertainty in I Heart Huckabees as an ecologically concerned fireman and delivered effective toughness in Three Kings, while imbuing his part with a sense of everyman-like low key.

Thorlief Golman/Thor - **** man, I give up.

Notes on how I think: I was initially going to cast Michelle Forbes (Battlestar Galactica, 24: Season Two, Global Frequency) as Betty Ross. She's actually quite close in age with Mary-Louise Parker, but Forbes looks comparatively TOO mature. John C. McGinley of Scrubs (also voiced Ray Palmer, The Atom in JLU) was another choice I had for Henry Pym, but he lends too much of a comical air that contrasts too strongly with the rest of the cast. Jane Adams of Relativity looked the right age to play Janet opposite Eckhart's Hank, and specializes in fragile-looking neurotics, but her career is too dead.


I love you.............in totally nonhomoerotic way.

They are all brilliant. And the thought of using Wahlberg as Cap!?!? I thought of that too.....but passed because I didn't think he was tall enough or could carry the film in that big a role.




Seriously....brilliant. I wish more people would take time to thinkof stuff like this.
 
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They are all brilliant.
Thank you muchly.

Oh and I made a mistake, I forgot to point out that Eigenberg's Steve Brady character was from Sex in the City, as the boyfriend to Miranda (Cynthia Nixon).

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And the thought of using Wahlberg as Cap!?!? I thought of that too.....but passed because I didn't think he was tall enough or could carry the film in that big a role.
Honestly, he's the actor I like the least in this bunch. That's not to be confused with 'disliking' him though.

However, I saw The Departed and I Heart Huckabees on DVD in the same week and read the following entry from Fametracker which convinced me:
Fametracker said:
Mark Wahlberg has screen presence to burn, but his appeal isn't rooted in charisma -- it's rooted in vulnerability.

Do you see how strange all this is turning out to be? Mark Wahlberg -- the rapping, crotch-grabbing, weightlifting, underwear-modeling, Madonna's-gay-dancer-baiting, a-book-to-his-own-penis-dedicating Mark Wahlberg -- has turned out to be the maestro of innocence and vulnerability.

And we don't mean the elfin, one-eye-on- the-camera vulnerability of Robin Williams, or the noble, bloated vulnerability of Tom Hanks. When Williams or Hanks play "regular" people, they end up playing the Everyman-with-a-capital-E, and their performances carry a whiff of patronizing anthropology.

Wahlberg, at his best (Boogie Nights, Three Kings, Rock Star), comes across like a guy who's won a radio contest and wound up with a part in a movie. His exuberance feels genuine, and when he funnels that honesty into his characters, he gives them authentic inner life that's not shrouded by self-congratulatory good intentions.

In Rock Star, Wahlberg pulls off the onstage swagger, but he's at his best in the quiet moments of aspiration. The most effective scene in the movie is one in which Wahlberg, at his day job, with his tangle of hair pulled up in a ponytail, patiently explains to a fellow worker how to un-jam a photocopier.

In Three Kings, all of the leads (Clooney, Wahlberg, Ice Cube, Spike Jonze) are very good, but Wahlberg is the only one who feels like he could plausibly be headed back to work as a salesman in an appliance store once the war, and the movie, come to an end.
 
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Oh and I made a mistake, I forgot to point out that Eigenberg's Steve Brady character was from Sex in the City, as the boyfriend to Miranda (Cynthia Nixon).

I also don't know whether to brag or be ashamed that I knew who he was without having to IMDB him.

The ex-wife used to make me watch Sex In the City with her. :oops:


But he would be perfect for Banner. He's got the geeky scientist look of Banner down---and he also has quite the athletic build. So it wouldn't be hard to believe see him stand there sans shirt and then just Hulk out. I'm actually jealous that I didn't think of that first.


Honestly, he's the actor I like the least in this bunch. That's not to be confused with 'disliking' him though.

However, I saw The Departed and I Heart Huckabees on DVD in the same week and read the following entry from Fametracker which convinced me:

I've been thinking about it all morning. While I'm partial to my pick...I guess he could pull it off. Wahlberg certainly has the build to fill the suit. And after seeing him in Departed and The Big Hit....I know he has the presence and skills for the action. My main concern is the height.

Still...a most impressive roster. Although I am sad that you couldn't cast Thor.


Another canidate for Thor that others have mentioned has been Josh Holloway from Lost

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I can neither support nor bash this casting since I don't watch Lost.



I think I am most happiest at the fact that you cast Dennis Haysbert as Fury. Most people only know him for his President Palmer role.....but if you're able to download or catch some clips of Haysbert as Jonas Blaine from CBS's "The Unit"....you'll be so glad you picked him.
 

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