Dragonball Evolution
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Re: Dragonball Z live action !
you didnt say that in response to langsta's post, which means he obviously did see it
you didnt say that in response to langsta's post, which means he obviously did see it
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That's his problem as it's the post directly above his one.
That's his problem as it's the post directly above his one.
Re: Dragonball Z live action !
Here's cast break down :
http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=12002
Weird it mentions all dragon ball people but then adds Gohan from Dragonball z but does NOT mention Vegeta!(my favourite) Who if it is following the manga/show should be the first main villan (The other saiyans too but Vegeta would be last so he = main)
Still cool that they are 100% moving forward with the script. I guesstimate that the first film may just be Dragon ball's end to explain Piccolo was a villain and they are adding gohan early so we care more next film when he is kidnapped and Goku and Piccolo actually work together.
Anyway it goes still cool
Here's cast break down :
http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=12002
Weird it mentions all dragon ball people but then adds Gohan from Dragonball z but does NOT mention Vegeta!(my favourite) Who if it is following the manga/show should be the first main villan (The other saiyans too but Vegeta would be last so he = main)
Still cool that they are 100% moving forward with the script. I guesstimate that the first film may just be Dragon ball's end to explain Piccolo was a villain and they are adding gohan early so we care more next film when he is kidnapped and Goku and Piccolo actually work together.
Anyway it goes still cool
ourchair
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The Dragon Ball animanga franchise we all know is loosely based on a 16th century Chinese novel called "Journey to the West" (also known in English translations as "Monkey" or "Adventures of the Monkey God")
Because of the semi-public domain nature of the story, it's pretty much free to be adapted by anyone into anything. This is how Blur's Damon Albarn and Tank Girl's Jamie Hewlett are getting away with their stage production, Monkey: Journey To The West.
So technically, speaking that Chinese schlock drivel is at best, its own thing, and at worst, a really lame attempt to capitalize on the popularity of Dragon Ball.
It's not a rip-off, unfortunately.
The Dragon Ball animanga franchise we all know is loosely based on a 16th century Chinese novel called "Journey to the West" (also known in English translations as "Monkey" or "Adventures of the Monkey God")
Because of the semi-public domain nature of the story, it's pretty much free to be adapted by anyone into anything. This is how Blur's Damon Albarn and Tank Girl's Jamie Hewlett are getting away with their stage production, Monkey: Journey To The West.
So technically, speaking that Chinese schlock drivel is at best, its own thing, and at worst, a really lame attempt to capitalize on the popularity of Dragon Ball.
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Actually it kind of is a rip off. Sure it has the Journey to the West parts which is cool , I personally love that tale in every form I've seen or read. BUT it adds more dragon ball only parts too like "Dragon pearls" as the film calls them which are just "dragon balls" with "balls" changed to "pearls" and more things too.
It's like star wars is based on classic mythology and other things. Now you can do a film based on Mythology and that's fine , HOWEVER add space , droids , lightsabers ect..... and it's a star wars rip off.
Hopefully i made sense.
Actually it kind of is a rip off. Sure it has the Journey to the West parts which is cool , I personally love that tale in every form I've seen or read. BUT it adds more dragon ball only parts too like "Dragon pearls" as the film calls them which are just "dragon balls" with "balls" changed to "pearls" and more things too.
It's like star wars is based on classic mythology and other things. Now you can do a film based on Mythology and that's fine , HOWEVER add space , droids , lightsabers ect..... and it's a star wars rip off.
Hopefully i made sense.
Friday
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Re: Dragonball Z live action !
Ooohhh... I need to see that.
Kurosawa films mainly.
Ooohhh... I need to see that.
Kurosawa films mainly.
ourchair
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I'm not totally defending it, though. As I said, at worst, it's an attempt to capitalize on something else... but that doesn't make it a 'rip off' because it's still patterning itself over one particular story that is open to adaptation.
As for your analogy:
For someone to do a film based on mythology and add space, droids and sabers the way you do would CLEARLY be a rip off of Star Wars because the saga doesn't really pattern itself over a SPECIFIC myth, but "general mythology structure" Star Wars isn't trying to be Beowulf with lightsabers or the Aeneid with Force powers, but rather it's a sabers and spaceships iteration of all those tropes.
This film isn't the same kind of rip off you're talking about because it's taking a SPECIFIC story and then patterning itself over that. 70% of the elements of Dragon Ball that it copies belong to a specific myth that is open to adaptation.
Granted, it is EXPLOITING the popularity of Dragon Ball by clearly modifying itself to skew closer to it, in an attempt to capture that popularity, but there's still not enough of a case to call it a total rip off. At least, not according to U.S. intellectual property laws (which have influenced a good number of Japanese intellectual property laws).
Think about all the cheap bargain bin books and home videos and low-cost animated TV movies you've seen based on fairy tales like Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella. Have you noticed how there's a good number of them that skew dangerously close to looking like Disney incarnations?
I think we can presume that because Disney has popularized those public domain ideas (i.e. Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty) in a certain way in a certain form, these filmmakers and publishers are trying to capitalize on that by skewing their versions close to Disney, but not enough to sue them.
I see what you're getting at, but the comparison doesn't work.
I'm not totally defending it, though. As I said, at worst, it's an attempt to capitalize on something else... but that doesn't make it a 'rip off' because it's still patterning itself over one particular story that is open to adaptation.
As for your analogy:
For someone to do a film based on mythology and add space, droids and sabers the way you do would CLEARLY be a rip off of Star Wars because the saga doesn't really pattern itself over a SPECIFIC myth, but "general mythology structure" Star Wars isn't trying to be Beowulf with lightsabers or the Aeneid with Force powers, but rather it's a sabers and spaceships iteration of all those tropes.
This film isn't the same kind of rip off you're talking about because it's taking a SPECIFIC story and then patterning itself over that. 70% of the elements of Dragon Ball that it copies belong to a specific myth that is open to adaptation.
Granted, it is EXPLOITING the popularity of Dragon Ball by clearly modifying itself to skew closer to it, in an attempt to capture that popularity, but there's still not enough of a case to call it a total rip off. At least, not according to U.S. intellectual property laws (which have influenced a good number of Japanese intellectual property laws).
Think about all the cheap bargain bin books and home videos and low-cost animated TV movies you've seen based on fairy tales like Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella. Have you noticed how there's a good number of them that skew dangerously close to looking like Disney incarnations?
I think we can presume that because Disney has popularized those public domain ideas (i.e. Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty) in a certain way in a certain form, these filmmakers and publishers are trying to capitalize on that by skewing their versions close to Disney, but not enough to sue them.
Re: Dragonball Z live action !
Why must you try and hurt me so.
They are officially filming in November
Why must you try and hurt me so.
They are officially filming in November
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Re: Dragonball Z live action !
I wonder how much CGI they'll use. Probably the whole thing will be CGI. That's the only way I could see this working.
I wonder how much CGI they'll use. Probably the whole thing will be CGI. That's the only way I could see this working.
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I think it'll be a mixture. Only fights need cgi e.g matrix style neo vs agent smith in last film type effects and pryo vs iceman beam struggle effect.
besides that and a few well done fighting moves that may need cgi it'l be cool live action.
I think it'll be a mixture. Only fights need cgi e.g matrix style neo vs agent smith in last film type effects and pryo vs iceman beam struggle effect.
besides that and a few well done fighting moves that may need cgi it'l be cool live action.
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If they did it entirely with LOLCATS it could work.
If they did it entirely with LOLCATS it could work.
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Re: Dragonball Z live action !
A power level of 5000?!
*explodes*
A power level of 5000?!
*explodes*
Re: Dragonball Z live action !
There literally no way this film could work. Are they going to stay faithfull to the show? Because if that's the case someone has to realize it's going to look plain silly. Or are they going reinterpret the mythos and make certain changes while adapting this to film? Because then fanboys=mad.
Can anyone honestly see goku looking cool in a live action movie with him still looking like goku.
IT's going to end up like
I'm confident a studio exec or somebody will have enough common sense to pull the plug
There literally no way this film could work. Are they going to stay faithfull to the show? Because if that's the case someone has to realize it's going to look plain silly. Or are they going reinterpret the mythos and make certain changes while adapting this to film? Because then fanboys=mad.
Can anyone honestly see goku looking cool in a live action movie with him still looking like goku.
IT's going to end up like
I'm confident a studio exec or somebody will have enough common sense to pull the plug
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You could say the same about Superman , batman , spider-man the x-men and more but the films worked and we loved them
There literally no way this film could work. Are they going to stay faithfull to the show? Because if that's the case someone has to realize it's going to look plain silly. Or are they going reinterpret the mythos and make certain changes while adapting this to film? Because then fanboys=mad.
Can anyone honestly see goku looking cool in a live action movie with him still looking like goku.
IT's going to end up like
I'm confident a studio exec or somebody will have enough common sense to pull the plug
You could say the same about Superman , batman , spider-man the x-men and more but the films worked and we loved them
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Didn't **** any of those *****es
Re: Dragonball Z live action !
You do realize there's a huge number of fanboys like mole willing to throw away their money at something even if its **** right? They don't care about looking stupid, at the end of the day its all about benjamin's
You do realize there's a huge number of fanboys like mole willing to throw away their money at something even if its **** right? They don't care about looking stupid, at the end of the day its all about benjamin's
