Civil War series discussion (spoilers)

How would you rate Civil War?

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Im not sure if I posted this here before...

But despite it being a horrible decision from editorial... Rereading House of M, I've liked it a LOT better than Civil War.

The universe it creates is more interesting, the conflicts are more interesting... I know it didn't pay off, but it works very well as a stand alone event, almost like a What-if? story...

Civil War is well written, but the characterizations are totally off, and unexplained, especially Tony Stark, and overloaded it with plot. Bendis has the absolute opposite problems... he got the characterizations down and totally decompressed it, making it frustrating to read as a monthly.

I'm not sure how well Civil War will stand up to time... while I gaurentee they'll revisit the House of M universe one day.
 
I would say that the tie-ins are one of the better aspects of Civil War. They've done more characterization in the tie-ins than they have in the series, like FF and Spiderman.

Civil War has changed the dynamic of heroes and the government. The Registration Act seems like the kind of thing that the government would do if there were super powered people in the real world. I respect that they can take a story about such unrealistic things and maintain a sense of reality.

Looking back, one of the most positive aspects of the House of M was that it moved the Marvel Universe away from a mutant-centric universe. One thing that I appreciate about Civil War is that it put all those characters who weren't mutants in focus.
 
MaxwellSmart said:
I would say that the tie-ins are one of the better aspects of Civil War. They've done more characterization in the tie-ins than they have in the series, like FF and Spiderman.

Civil War has changed the dynamic of heroes and the government. The Registration Act seems like the kind of thing that the government would do if there were super powered people in the real world. I respect that they can take a story about such unrealistic things and maintain a sense of reality.

Looking back, one of the most positive aspects of the House of M was that it moved the Marvel Universe away from a mutant-centric universe. One thing that I appreciate about Civil War is that it put all those characters who weren't mutants in focus.
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I don't know. I felt like characterization was one of the weaker aspects of the series as a whole, including the tie-ins. We got a lot of talking heads but not a lot of development.
 
Zombipanda said:
I don't know. I felt like characterization was one of the weaker aspects of the series as a whole, including the tie-ins. We got a lot of talking heads but not a lot of development.
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I'd say the character "development" is what comes next. Civil War was what spurred the development.

Sue leaving Reed. Spiderman being outed. Mary Jane dying(speculation).

Right now these events haven't done anything to develop the characters, but they're big events that, with the exception of
Mary Jane dying,
can be credited to Civil War and will have lasting ramifications.
 
MaxwellSmart said:
I'd say the character "development" is what comes next. Civil War was what spurred the development.

Sue leaving Reed. Spiderman being outed. Mary Jane dying(speculation).

Right now these events haven't done anything to develop the characters, but they're big events that, with the exception of
Mary Jane dying,
can be credited to Civil War and will have lasting ramifications.
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I believe its actually going to be
Aunt May
dying
 
MaxwellSmart said:
That's not dramatic enough.

Peter loosing his wife would be so much more awesomely sad.
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But its definitely going to be Aunt May, I heard on another forum some guy who got a look at the next freindly neighborhood Spiderman (take it for what its worth) also Joe Q has stated he cant kill of Spidey as much as he hated him being married being a widow (I'm not sure what the male version of widow is). And this would be the thrid time May has died.
 
E said:
It's VERY interesting if, like me, you love stories containing big glass dome thingees.
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The last time a story ended with a glass globe.....the entire thing turned out to be the imagination of retarded boy.

I now want Civil War to end like that....only instead of a retarded boy I want it to be a drawing of Millar holding a baby that strangley resembles Joe Q. And instead of a snow globe....I want it to be the end of a rattler.

Dr.Strangefate said:
Im not sure if I posted this here before...

But despite it being a horrible decision from editorial... Rereading House of M, I've liked it a LOT better than Civil War.

The universe it creates is more interesting, the conflicts are more interesting... I know it didn't pay off, but it works very well as a stand alone event, almost like a What-if? story...

Civil War is well written, but the characterizations are totally off, and unexplained, especially Tony Stark, and overloaded it with plot. Bendis has the absolute opposite problems... he got the characterizations down and totally decompressed it, making it frustrating to read as a monthly.

I'm not sure how well Civil War will stand up to time... while I gaurentee they'll revisit the House of M universe one day.
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I agree wholeheartedly.

MaxwellSmart said:
I would say that the tie-ins are one of the better aspects of Civil War. They've done more characterization in the tie-ins than they have in the series, like FF and Spiderman.

Civil War has changed the dynamic of heroes and the government. The Registration Act seems like the kind of thing that the government would do if there were super powered people in the real world. I respect that they can take a story about such unrealistic things and maintain a sense of reality.

Looking back, one of the most positive aspects of the House of M was that it moved the Marvel Universe away from a mutant-centric universe. One thing that I appreciate about Civil War is that it put all those characters who weren't mutants in focus.
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Agreed. To be honest----Civil War involved too many people in order to focus on them all. You needed to have brief characterizations in order to please everyone.

The tie-ins allowed you to get to know the characters better. So the tie-ins......despite how silly or pointless they were DID help. Because without them, all you get is Millar's core title with just a bunch of talking heads and pretty action poses.
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
I just wanted to write some spoilers.

Civil War didn't suck that bad, c'mon guys we read the ultimate clone saga along with civil war, it's certainly not that bad.

And it gives us hope for the future of the 616 universe, because they nearly ran out of stories if it wasn't for the civil war.
 
The story is just over hyped and marvel tried to make it seems more epic than it should
 
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From Brubaker's interview about "resetting DD," regarding next issue, this is an interesting line about the conclusion of Civil War:

"And that issue also builds off of the end of Civil War, too, and Matt's new status outside the law."
 
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Joe Kalicki said:
From Brubaker's interview about "resetting DD," regarding next issue, this is an interesting line about the conclusion of Civil War:

"And that issue also builds off of the end of Civil War, too, and Matt's new status outside the law."
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Do you suppose
"Matt's new status outside the law"
refers to him as a lawyer or a vigilante?
 
MaxwellSmart said:
Do you suppose
"Matt's new status outside the law"
refers to him as a lawyer or a vigilante?
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Well, since he specifically mentioned Civil War, I'd say as a vigilante. It seems like a pretty big spoiler, not that anybody alive hasn't already guessed the end of Civil War. All that's left is to see how everything happens.

And how it involves a giant glass globe (Best guess: Mysterio's behind it!).
 
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The last panel takes place in an alternate universe, with Elijah Snow and Jakita Wagner peering out from the glass dome into The Bleed. "It's a strange world, let's keep it that way."

It's probably just Tony and Maria discussing how he's the new Director of SHIELD. "Things are about to get a lot worse..."
 
Bass Version 2.0 said:
The last panel takes place in an alternate universe, with Elijah Snow and Jakita Wagner peering out from the glass dome into The Bleed. "It's a strange world, let's keep it that way."

It's probably just Tony and Maria discussing how he's the new Director of SHIELD. "Things are about to get a lot worse..."
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It's the Monitors.
 
Bass Version 2.0 said:
It's probably just Tony and Maria discussing how he's the new Director of SHIELD. "Things are about to get a lot worse..."
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That's what I assumed. Now that S.H.I.E.L.D's job seems to be getting even bigger....I was expecting them to pull out some huge "Watchtower"-esque station overlooking Earth sometime soon.

With Tony now running SHIELD....I assume he's got some orbiting space station under Stakk Industries that he decides to go ahead and designate as the new HQ.
 
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