Bryan Singer on Ultimate X-Men.

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Goodwill said:
Well, I look forward to the Mature rating, too. If it's something that was lost in Millar's run, it would be just that. Vaughan was certainly an all-ages writer, which I appreciated, but let's get dark again. Nice.
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Um...the whole comic is all-ages. It isn't something that was totally missing from Millar's run or anything. If anything, this will get up to a "PG-13" as much as it can dark, unless Marvel makes it like The Ultimates, which I doubt.
 
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Why wouldn't they make it PG-13 like the Ultimates? Isn't the Ultimates their most successful title?
 
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Goodwill said:
Why wouldn't they make it PG-13 like the Ultimates? Isn't the Ultimates their most successful title?
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The success of the a title doesn't depend on it's rating. It just means they can get a way with a bit more "mature" stuff. If Marvel does have the need to give it that rating, then it doesn't need it.
 
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I never said that the Ultimates were successful because of their "M" rating. I was just saying that there is no problem with "M", it doesn't hurt marketing, so if Singer's got those more violent ideas, why not let them come into fruition?
 
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Goodwill said:
I never said that the Ultimates were successful because of their "M" rating. I was just saying that there is no problem with "M", it doesn't hurt marketing, so if Singer's got those more violent ideas, why not let them come into fruition?
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But the point is, he might not have those ideas. What's the point of changing the rating if it's going to be the same?
 
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I was just saying that, in the event that he does have more "M" ideas, Marvel should just give him that freedom.
 
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TheManWithoutFear said:
Does anyone even take notice of ratings? I don't. Let's talk about something else.

Bryan Singer will do Pheonix or Acopalypse. Anyone think which one or neither?
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Apocalypse, or neither.
 
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TheManWithoutFear said:
I dunno I'd like to see the Phoenix story he had cookin' in one form or another.
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Good point, considering the events surrounding his departure from X3. We'll see though...in terms of set-up I'd say Apocalypse, especially with all the clues Vaughan left in his run. I do expect we'll see a Phoenix arc eventually, but I think Singer will cover Apocalypse for some odd reason, despite the X3 circumstances.
 
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I think Apocalypse, too. Maybe they're trying to save the full Phoenix coming back thing for issue #100.
 
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DIrishB said:
Good point, considering the events surrounding his departure from X3. We'll see though...in terms of set-up I'd say Apocalypse, especially with all the clues Vaughan left in his run. I do expect we'll see a Phoenix arc eventually, but I think Singer will cover Apocalypse for some odd reason, despite the X3 circumstances.
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But isn't Kirkman touching on Pheonix? So would we be saying as far as setup Pheonix is more likely because Kirkman will lay the groundwork.
 
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icemastertron said:
I think Apocalypse, too. Maybe they're trying to save the full Phoenix coming back thing for issue #100.
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Thats what I was thinking.

TheManWithoutFear said:
But isn't Kirkman touching on Pheonix? So would we be saying as far as setup Pheonix is more likely because Kirkman will lay the groundwork.
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I don't know, I hadn't heard that. But considering Kirkman is only on for 9 issues, and we know the plot of the first 3 probably won't have anything to do with the Phoenix, and that the other issues are also split up into two 3-parters, I doubt it. I don't see Kirkman cramming anything actually focusing on the Phoenix, at least with any form of resolution and so on, into only a 3-issue arc. Its entirely possible he'll be setting up some clues to drop, much as we've gotten in the past. But I have a feeling, like Ice said, around issue #100 seems like the likeliest place to position a Phoenix storyline. I think the main reason we'll see Apocalypse soon is Vaughan went to a lot of trouble to set the character up: The Tempest being all about Sinister and Apocalypse, then in Magnetic North Sinister's continued ramblings. Something is going to happen before too long, unless they want to waste any of the tension build-up by laying those clues. Its possible Singer won't even cover Apocalypse and will instead focus on Magneto (who is newly freed), and the big A will show up at a later time.
 
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TheManWithoutFear said:
I always thought Apocalypse should be saved for #100. But it's good to know UXM has two major storylines that we can count on in the future regardless of what order they come in.
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Well, technically is all just assumption and rumor, but not unfounded given the clues we've been given in the past. I just think Apocalpyse will happen first due to the heavy push Vaughan gave it during his run...we'll see if the other writers pick up on that and continue that plot-line.
 
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TheManWithoutFear said:
But isn't Kirkman touching on Pheonix? So would we be saying as far as setup Pheonix is more likely because Kirkman will lay the groundwork.
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DIrishB said:
I don't know, I hadn't heard that.
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Someone somewhere asked Kirkman will he be touching upon the whole Phoenix subplot thing in his run and he answered something like "I won't be forgetting any subplots". I think that's all we know.
 
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I'm glad that he's gone back and picked up on everything... It makes for a stronger story. Perhaps he'll develop Sinister into a better villain or something.
 
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Goodwill said:
I'm glad that he's gone back and picked up on everything... It makes for a stronger story. Perhaps he'll develop Sinister into a better villain or something.
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I like how Sinister's turned out so far, I like how he's totally whacked. I also like that he went from being extremely dangerous and lethal during The Tempest to pathetic and sad once in captivity of SHIELD and without the urgings of Apocalypse. Without Apocalypse (or the hallucination of him), Sinister is completely useless and worthless, really. At least that seems to be the idea. I think it adds an interesting dynamic to the character and opens the doors to interesting stories in the future. I also think it'll be a good chance for character development and growth should Sinister ever free himself from Apocalypse's control (assuming he's real), or someone de-crazies himself and rids himself of the Big A that way. Either way, I very much look forward to learning more about Sinister and Apocalypse. I'd also like to see the Sinister/Gambit link explained, even if it means Ultimate Gambit makes a return as one of Apocalypse's Horseman or whatever. Maybe that was why Gambit was supposed to remain alive?
 
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Sinister's link to Gambit better be explained, whether through Sinister or Rogue. I'm serious. That's why I was so shocked Vaughan decided to kill him... Vaughan was setting up his past! There's nothing now... It's terrible.
 
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Goodwill said:
Sinister's link to Gambit better be explained, whether through Sinister or Rogue. I'm serious. That's why I was so shocked Vaughan decided to kill him... Vaughan was setting up his past! There's nothing now... It's terrible.
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The fact that Rogue now has his memories may help. There could be a lot of cloudiness or things may not make sense in her head, so she could seek out to find explanations.
 
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