Batman/Superman Anthology Timelines

Pro Bot said:
If I did, I'd probably have to do an Earth-203 Birds of Prey timeline too. There's way more linking Earth-203 than Earth-L&C.

-Same Arkham Asylum.
-Same Batsuit.
-Same Batgirl suit (different character though).
-Same Catwoman suit.
-The teaser used footage from Batman 1989-1992.
-The TV guide for the series had an apparition of Keaton's Batman and Pfeiffer's Catwoman.

Though, I'd note that on Earth-203, Bruce went through Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake and Barbara Gordon as sidekicks. Also, that definitely ain't Jack Nicholson.


I can't remember there being any years but I'd default to 2002-2003. That'd place the Batman/Catwoman timeline a lot further back than in the Burtonverse.
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Probably 1979 and 1982 for the events of the Burton films
 
Pro Bot said:
If I did, I'd probably have to do an Earth-203 Birds of Prey timeline too. There's way more linking Earth-203 than Earth-L&C.

-Same Arkham Asylum.
-Same Batsuit.
-Same Batgirl suit (different character though).
-Same Catwoman suit.
-The teaser used footage from Batman 1989-1992.
-The TV guide for the series had an apparition of Keaton's Batman and Pfeiffer's Catwoman.

Though, I'd note that on Earth-203, Bruce went through Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake and Barbara Gordon as sidekicks. Also, that definitely ain't Jack Nicholson.
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I don't think either Burton movie is compatible, as BoP's premise is that Batman, his allies & enemies operated in secret and the public didn't know they existed. More of a Blade/Buffy/Men in Black approach.
 
barryh said:
I don't think either Burton movie is compatible, as BoP's premise is that Batman, his allies and enemies operated in secret and the public didn't know they existed. More of a Blade/Buffy/Men in Black approach.
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I wouldn't count any films as canon to Earth-203. Earth-203 would probably be more akin to a similar parallel world. Small elements like Selina being a metahuman are shared.
 
@Pro Bot is it possible that Gotham City went through a public works overhaul in the three years between Returns and Forever which would explain the aesthetic changes?
 
These are clearly different timelines that won't resemble the same way they did before once it merges with another.

Events, characters and etc can be altered by inference (aka the human imagination) to adjust to a single linear timeline.
Certain elements be erased from a merge, but again, that's left to the imagination when you start mapping it all out.

Batman Forever and Batman & Robin as we see them in the films in their entirety are THE ORIGINAL timeline (Earth-97) shown to us.
 
selfishmisery said:
These are clearly different timelines that won't resemble the same way they did before once it merges with another.
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From 1995-2019, there was no talk of them even being different timelines for the most part. That was just theorised.

selfishmisery said:
Events, characters and etc can be altered by inference (aka the human imagination) to adjust to a single linear timeline.
Certain elements be erased from a merge, but again, that's left to the imagination when you start mapping it all out.

Batman Forever and Batman & Robin as we see them in the films in their entirety are THE ORIGINAL timeline (Earth-97) shown to us.
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Earth-97 was a joke about release dates coinciding with reality numbers. It wasn't a proper designation to begin with.


5:28
"So the Bat-Nipples existed in this universe (referring to episode 1's Earth-89)." [everyone says yes, including the screenwriter of the episode]
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"Because the movie has one reference to the Michelle Pfeiffer Selina Kyle Catwoman [...] I'm linking it to the Tim Burton/Joel Schumacher Batman Universe, and that universe was linked to Crisis on Infinite Earths [...] with Earth-89."
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There's a reason why Earth-97 was always noted with "[Unofficial Number]" at the end of it.

So, if Earth-89 is the Schumacher-specific sequels, the new Batman '89 comics and novels are not set in Earth-89. Since Batman '89 is set in the same universe as Superman '78, which is supposed to be Earth-96 based on official word and references made during Crisis on Infinite Earths, logically those sequels would be part of the Donnerverse.
 
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If you treat Birds of Prey as a parallel Earth or divergent timeline from Burton/Schumacher films it's probably better to assume it takes place in the future. From time when it was made. It would explain it becoming "New Gotham" City. Even when the show aired that was the vibe I got. That this a different Gotham, characters are older, some appear to have died. This is the Future.

In terms of appearances of the Joker after he died in the 1989 movie. Anyone see images of Ray Nicholson in Smile 2. Jack's son! The Joker having a son is probably simpler explanation than a resurrection. Certainly in terms of age around the time of that Crisis newspaper headline.
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Avilos said:
If you treat Birds of Prey as a parallel Earth or divergent timeline from Burton/Schumacher films it's probably better to assume it takes place in the future. From time when it was made. It would explain it becoming "New Gotham" City. Even when the show aired that was the vibe I got. That this a different Gotham, characters are older, some appear to have died. This is the Future.
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Alfred is immortal I guess.

Avilos said:
In terms of appearances of the Joker after he died in the 1989 movie. Anyone see images of Ray Nicholson in Smile 2. Jack's son! The Joker having a son is probably simpler explanation than a resurrection. Certainly in terms of age around the time of that Crisis newspaper headline.
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I had no idea Ray Nicholson was in Smile 2, that's awesome. He's just like his daddy.
 
Avilos said:
If you treat Birds of Prey as a parallel Earth or divergent timeline from Burton/Schumacher films it's probably better to assume it takes place in the future. From time when it was made. It would explain it becoming "New Gotham" City. Even when the show aired that was the vibe I got. That this a different Gotham, characters are older, some appear to have died. This is the Future.
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If you did that, it's probably 2012-2019 timeline-wise. The divergence would be Selina's death and Bruce's retirement, loosely speaking. Obviously it's more inspired by the film series than directly related, but still, makes sense.
 
Avilos said:
Regardless of what Earth or universe Lois & Clark is set on my fan explanation for Tim and Amber Lake have a Batmobile -

It's a replica using the real pieces lost when Batman converted it to the Batmissle. Following the blueprints the Penguin and the Red Triangle Circus gang had. All acquired illegally from GCPC evidence lockup. Which fits the Lakes method of operation. Which is one of the reasons we see a completely new Batmobile design in Batman Forever. The original's design and security had been completely exposed. Was the source of where the Penguin got those blueprints ever explored anywhere?
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Notably, when the Batmobile first appears in the episode, you can hear a version of the Danny Elfman Batman theme too. No one seems to mention that. I think that kind of implies it's supposed to be Earth-89 Batman's car... but I imagine that is controversial.

Duuuun... dun dun duuun... dun... duuun...
 
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