Probably 1979 and 1982 for the events of the Burton films
Batman/Superman Anthology Timelines
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Probably 1979 and 1982 for the events of the Burton films
For bad or for good, that trailer sure felt very late 90s/early 2000s
I don't think either Burton movie is compatible, as BoP's premise is that Batman, his allies & enemies operated in secret and the public didn't know they existed. More of a Blade/Buffy/Men in Black approach.
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I wouldn't count any films as canon to Earth-203. Earth-203 would probably be more akin to a similar parallel world. Small elements like Selina being a metahuman are shared.
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These are clearly different timelines that won't resemble the same way they did before once it merges with another.
Events, characters and etc can be altered by inference (aka the human imagination) to adjust to a single linear timeline.
Certain elements be erased from a merge, but again, that's left to the imagination when you start mapping it all out.
Batman Forever and Batman & Robin as we see them in the films in their entirety are THE ORIGINAL timeline (Earth-97) shown to us.
Events, characters and etc can be altered by inference (aka the human imagination) to adjust to a single linear timeline.
Certain elements be erased from a merge, but again, that's left to the imagination when you start mapping it all out.
Batman Forever and Batman & Robin as we see them in the films in their entirety are THE ORIGINAL timeline (Earth-97) shown to us.
@selfishmisery can you elaborate further?
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From 1995-2019, there was no talk of them even being different timelines for the most part. That was just theorised.
Earth-97 was a joke about release dates coinciding with reality numbers. It wasn't a proper designation to begin with.
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There's a reason why Earth-97 was always noted with "[Unofficial Number]" at the end of it.
So, if Earth-89 is the Schumacher-specific sequels, the new Batman '89 comics and novels are not set in Earth-89. Since Batman '89 is set in the same universe as Superman '78, which is supposed to be Earth-96 based on official word and references made during Crisis on Infinite Earths, logically those sequels would be part of the Donnerverse.
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If you treat Birds of Prey as a parallel Earth or divergent timeline from Burton/Schumacher films it's probably better to assume it takes place in the future. From time when it was made. It would explain it becoming "New Gotham" City. Even when the show aired that was the vibe I got. That this a different Gotham, characters are older, some appear to have died. This is the Future.
In terms of appearances of the Joker after he died in the 1989 movie. Anyone see images of Ray Nicholson in Smile 2. Jack's son! The Joker having a son is probably simpler explanation than a resurrection. Certainly in terms of age around the time of that Crisis newspaper headline.
In terms of appearances of the Joker after he died in the 1989 movie. Anyone see images of Ray Nicholson in Smile 2. Jack's son! The Joker having a son is probably simpler explanation than a resurrection. Certainly in terms of age around the time of that Crisis newspaper headline.
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Alfred is immortal I guess.
I had no idea Ray Nicholson was in Smile 2, that's awesome. He's just like his daddy.
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That's crazy.
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If you did that, it's probably 2012-2019 timeline-wise. The divergence would be Selina's death and Bruce's retirement, loosely speaking. Obviously it's more inspired by the film series than directly related, but still, makes sense.
Exactly. I figured the scene in Crisis is still 2019 when it was filmed. Helena looks very similar to how she did on the series. How many years after is flexible. The CW shows finally catchup with BoP future more or less. Same for the Smallville Earth.
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By the way, on Page 3, where did these newspapers originate from? I might use them while ignoring the year.
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Notably, when the Batmobile first appears in the episode, you can hear a version of the Danny Elfman Batman theme too. No one seems to mention that. I think that kind of implies it's supposed to be Earth-89 Batman's car... but I imagine that is controversial.
Duuuun... dun dun duuun... dun... duuun...
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Absolutely true. I was a huge Lois & Clark fan. I watched every episode on first airing. You only see a corner of the Batmobile. But it was shot on a stage at Warner Bros. Stages are huge. It was probably very easy to bring it on a stage to film. Clearly it's an Easter Egg but a deliberate one. Which the music reinforces.
Before that 3rd season which started in fall of 1995 there had been no mentions of Batman. But the mention of Metropolis in Batman Forever that summer opened the floodgates. Clearly the L&C writers were inspired by that. The season premiere has Clark refer to Gotham City as a real place. The Batmoblie appears in the 6th episode of the season. THAN in the next episode "Ultrawoman" Batman is mentioned by name as a real person. Superman's powers are transferred to Lois by Red Kryptonite. The villains discover that this leaves Superman with the powers of Batman. Meaning none. This was not the last time. In season 4 an old lady calls Superman "The Caped Crusader". He corrects her by saying that is Batman.
Also yes, until recently the Burton/ Schumacher movies were always the same universe, timeline. Visual and design changes no different than all the unexplained changes in every new Star Trek tv show and movies. It's the fans who find ways of making sense of it all.
The fun thing about the Multiverse have it both ways.there can be a universe in which all 4 movies are one timeline or another in which the Burton movies are separate and go in divergent direction.
That is my perspective on the Christopher Reeve Superman movies and Superman Returns. They can all be one thing or separate.
Before that 3rd season which started in fall of 1995 there had been no mentions of Batman. But the mention of Metropolis in Batman Forever that summer opened the floodgates. Clearly the L&C writers were inspired by that. The season premiere has Clark refer to Gotham City as a real place. The Batmoblie appears in the 6th episode of the season. THAN in the next episode "Ultrawoman" Batman is mentioned by name as a real person. Superman's powers are transferred to Lois by Red Kryptonite. The villains discover that this leaves Superman with the powers of Batman. Meaning none. This was not the last time. In season 4 an old lady calls Superman "The Caped Crusader". He corrects her by saying that is Batman.
Also yes, until recently the Burton/ Schumacher movies were always the same universe, timeline. Visual and design changes no different than all the unexplained changes in every new Star Trek tv show and movies. It's the fans who find ways of making sense of it all.
The fun thing about the Multiverse have it both ways.there can be a universe in which all 4 movies are one timeline or another in which the Burton movies are separate and go in divergent direction.
That is my perspective on the Christopher Reeve Superman movies and Superman Returns. They can all be one thing or separate.
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I did notice on my viewing of that show that the Batman references started around Batman Forever coming out. Seems like intentional cross-promotion, shared universe or otherwise.
I mean, if we're going to connect things based on references, then really it's like this. No real contradictions here either.
Earth-89 - Burtonverse
Batman (1989-1997)
Lois & Clark (1993-1997)
Catwoman (2004)
Earth-96 - Donnerverse
Superman (1978-2006)
Supergirl (1984)
Batman (1989-1992)
Human Target (2010-2011)
