Ultimate Spider-Man #93 discussion (spoilers)

[E]

The Bone I know only lasted 55 issues. :?

I might be thinking of something else. I dunno. The point is that it's not a record (except fr being a "Marvel" record).

 

[Goodwill]

Stan Lee and Jack Kirby did the same thing with FF#20 to 50 something back in the day, generating an extraordinary amount of characters without fully fleshing them out... And I believe their motivation (which I read in an interview a long time ago) is the same as Bendis' is now. Get the characters out here now, let people know they exist and have them clamor for more. These are introductions, like how Gambit did in Ultimate X-Men #14-15 (I think). This is the handshake. The conversation comes later.

In summary: The stories aren't bad if you just don't like them due to the seeming constant assault of "new" characters. (Peter's dramatic real, non-costumed life has always been well done.) They're opportunities, the same way Lee and Kirby put them out there, a step into the doorway of something more.

I'm sticking with Bendis on this one.

I see what you're saying and a lot of what you say is true... But now that we've got time to correct mistakes and "ultimize" things so that this new universe does not get caught up in the same kind of mess the original one did, why are we only repackaging the same old thing? There will be a day that UU becomes 616 and it's sooner than you think. Bendis shouldn't follow suit anymore if he wants to be successful.

 

[vintsukka]

The funny thing about this record - and while I'm not cynical to the point where I think it's his sole motivation for staying on the book, I do believe it's a major point for him - is that it's not a record at all. I'm not even sure it's a record for Marvel. But Dave Sim wrote many, many more issues of Cerebus than just 104. Bone lasted longer than 104 issues I believe and I'm pretty sure it was all written by one guy.

The record's supposed to be for the longest run for a writer/artist team. I'm not familiar with Cerebus or Bone, did they have the same artist all the way?

 

[E]

The record's supposed to be for the longest run for a writer/artist team. I'm not familiar with Cerebus or Bone, did they have the same artist all the way?

Dave Sim not only wrote all of Cerebus, he drew it all too.

 

[Nick MB]

Dave Sim not only wrote all of Cerebus, he drew it all too.

Actually, that was only true for the first 50 or so issues of Cerebus, after that Gerhard came onboard to draw all the backgrounds while Sim just drew the characters.
And Bone only lasted around 50/60 issues. Certainly nowhere near 100.
Obviously, there's also Larsen on Savage Dragon, though that's now gone so off-deadline, I'm almost reluctant to still count it.

I am curious: could Bendis/Bagley still be the longest running writer/artist duo in all of comics? The longest run of consistent writing and art with two seperate creators involved? Cos it seems that all the competition people can think of has a single guy doing both roles.

 

[E]

Actually, that was only true for the first 50 or so issues of Cerebus, after that Gerhard came onboard to draw all the backgrounds while Sim just drew the foreground.

OK, so he didn't do *all* of the art. He still drew and wrote them all.

And Bone only lasted around 50/60 issues. Certainly nowhere near 100.

Already noted.

Obviously, there's also Larsen on Savage Dragon, though that's now gone so off-deadline, I'm almost reluctant to still count it.

Why? It's still a huge accomplishment.

I am curious: could Bendis/Bagley still be the longest running writer/artist duo in all of comics? The longest run of consistent writing and art with two seperate creators involved? Cos it seems that all the competition people can think of has a single guy doing both roles.

"Competition"?!

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

I think Bendis/Bagley hittin issue #100 deserves it's own thread. It's kind've a big deal regardless of who has done it before.