Goodwill said:
It's simple, really. It doesn't have to be "magic." It's like JTG said - Scarlet Witch is, technically a witch, since she has the ability to do stuff. She's a mutant, but that could still be considered magic to those that don't understand. There you go.
Yes but Scarlet Witch is a mutant, and thats her mutant power, whereas Strange is a normal human who happens to dabble in sorcery. Like MWoF said:
TheManWithoutFear said:
I think there's a difference. Take Strange Jr. and his father and compare them to The Scarlet Witch.
Scarlet Witch is a mutant she has the powers because she was born with them.
The Strange's are not born with magical powers nor is the evidence that practicing these arts somehow unlock the X-Gene.
Got it? Simple enough?
What about magical objects?
Well since they're not organic it's not really a mutation. It's just they're probably magical because the objects were made or blessed-like.
So running with what Goodwill is saying, to people who don't understand it could be magic but we're the audience/readers and we do understand. There is a difference.
I also agree with DIrishB. Magic should have a mysterious tone to it.
Like I said, magic just works better (when in a real-world setting, whether its in movies, books, or comics) with a sense of mystery to it. I don't think it NEEDS to be explained, nor SHOULD it be. When you try to explain magic it almost always sounds contrived, forced, and less believable than were it left open-ended.
Hawkeye101 said:
No, see that would better explain why people are evolving able to control probability and the weather. They are eveolving to the level above science. Mutation is allowing them to do these things.
The level above science? I didn't know science and magic could be so generally quantified like that.
Dr. Strange (and everyone else for that matter) is still touched by it, they exsist because of it. He just had to study magic in order to learn how to manipulate it. Just like regular humans to magneto. Magneto can naturally manipulate magnetic fields, but through intense study and scientific research, so can anyone else.
Which is fine and it works, but we don't need a scientific explanation of HOW Strange does it. Like I said its sometimes more interesting in what you dont know about the character. Some things should stay a mystery. Like I said otherwise it sounds contrived.
As for items, Cytorak, Mjonlir, etc, they are enchanted. Scarlet Witch can cast a hex, but it wears off after sometime. Others, like the asguardian blacksmith, could probably st a permanent 'hex' forever setting that item 'above' the level of science.
We don't know if the Gem or Mjolnir are in fact enchanted. We still don't know if Thor is a God or a nutjob (or maybe both). We also don't know what the deal was with the Gem of Cyttorak. It
probably had some mystical properties to it, but we don't know for sure what it did.
The point is magic is only illusion, there's no such thing as "real" magic, its all about mystery. When you take away that aspect it loses its "magic" (pun intended). So by trying to quantify or explain it through science makes no sense. Its possible, but it usually just doesn't work.
For that matter, since you guys are so gung-ho about it being explainable, why not throw a few of your theories out there? How would you explain magic using scientific terms?