Ultimate Juggernaut

[Ice]

It's LSJL, so who knows?

 

[E]

who is in the initial line up?

Ooooh - good one.

Technically Cap wasn't in the initial lineup anyway.

 

[Nurhachi]

iyo means "in your opinion"

 

[Goodwill]

But they have used non-mutants. I don't have any specific names, but I know people who have read old issues where they have used them for whatever they wanted. The title of the issues I don't know, so don't ask.

Deadpool, for example.

 

[Caduceus]

At the end of the most recent Weapon X series, the line up was

Defected SHIELD Agent Brent Jackson (as the director)
Wild Child
Chamber- sort of, it was left hanging what happened to him
Sauron

But just before that, the line up included
Marrow
Sabretooth
Garrison Kane
Mesmero
Aurora

I think i've forgotten people but that sounds like most of them. There is a history of Weapon X using people who weren't necessarily mutants, but could use the enhancements the program could give them.

 

[longshotjimlee]

but is that the case in the Ultimate Universe?

 

[Caduceus]

We only know about the recent history of Weapon X in the ultimate Universe apart from a couple of brief flashbacks. So we can't really say.

 

[Goodwill]

To my understanding Weapon X is hell bent on destroying mutants... At least so far. Bendis made it clear with the whole Blockbuster arc and then the Sentinels, so I don't see them getting into that anytime soon, you know, the enhancement deal outside of mutants anyway.

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

you know what about the non weaponX agents like in Blockbuster... they were considered weaponX so was Jugg but he was just givin' the special treatment cos' he had powers... ya know what I mean...

 

[longshotjimlee]

nope

 

[Goodwill]

Yeah, I'm actually with LS here... I have no idea what you just said!

 

[longshotjimlee]

I know what he means I just don't agree with him, (for a change) :wink:

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

ok I mean some people say weaponX does use non-mutants but all of their regular footsoldiers are regular humans so that kinda puts it to bed there...

 

[Caduceus]

The footsoldiers are just cannon-fodder. We only had one single name and thats cos Tara was the Blockbuster Henchwoman extrodinairy

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

all right guys new scenerio....

Marko was cannon fodder and weaponX was on some mission somewhere where he discovers the Gem of Cyttorak all of a sudden he gets the Jug powers and they decide he now gets the cozy 4x4 with laser bars as walls... I think it would make for a good read showing how WeaponX betrays one of their own soldiers and Caine has to cope with living with mutants...

 

[mutantfreak]

Ultimate Jugernaut is a cyborg.

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

Why??

 

[mutantfreak]

No, just kidding. I just want to point that he could be a lot of other things, besides a Human and a mutant. For all we know -nothing- he could even be an alien. This caracter will have to be adressed later, because he just made a cameo in Weapon X and Ultimate War.

 

[Ice]

Well if Longshot isn't going to be cyborg, robot or whatever, then I doubt that Juggs will be something else besides human or mutant.

 

[Caduceus]

Its interesting that he hasn't seized pride of place as a recurring villain. He's been around and back again for a long time in 616 but he's had only a relatively small amount in Ultimate. Personally i don't mind that he's not here too much. He's not versatile to carry off an every second arc appearance