The Overlord
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Bass said:I am against Ultimate Daredevil due to religious reasons.
Ah, lighten up, we're just having some fun.
Bass said:I am against Ultimate Daredevil due to religious reasons.
THanks.The Overlord said:It be pretty cool if for a whole arc DD is trying to hunt down Slade and briefly considers killing him, perhaps that should be the first arc. Of course it could also be fun if DD goes after Slade later, spending so would time searching him, he finally finds after a few arcs and we would get to see the noramlly cool and controlled DD on a rage filled manhunt.
As for Willie Lincoln here is his bio from www.manwithoutfear.com:
"The criminal Biggie Benson framed police officer Willie Lincoln on charges of accepting a bribe. Shortly thereafter, while serving in Viet Nam, Lincoln jumped on a live grenade to save his fellow soldiers. The blast blinded him. Daredevil met Willie while on tour of the war-torn country, entertaining and boosting morale of the troops. When Willie returned home, he enlisted Matt Murdock's help to help clear his name. The two became friends as Willie struggled to deal with his new impairment."
Profile written by: Kuljit Mithra
http://www.manwithoutfear.com/characters/character.cgi?id=Willie Lincoln
Here are the issues Willie Lincoln appeared in: 47, 49, 57-59, 258.
As a slight nod to 616 DD, I would name the goon who blinded Willie Lincoln, "Big" Billy Benson, one of the Kingpin's lieutenants. At the end of the arc Matt and DD incriminate Maxwell Glenn and Benson, but there is no evidence connecting Wilson Fisk to the matter. Heather Glenn begins to hate DD and Murdock for putting her father away.
Good good. I have a question. Is Daredevil used to killing for punishment on a regular basis?The Overlord said:Mickey O'Connor- Mickey O'Connor is a 12 year old girl who lives in Hell's Kitchen. She has gotten into some trouble recently, hanging out with a street gang, petty theft, etc. However that all changes when she is kidnapped by the gruesome child killer known as the Ringmaster. Ringmaster takes her to his circus of horrors and decides it be fun to feed Mickey to some lions.
Daredevil swoops in and saves Mickey. DD defeats Ringmaster and his twisted circus gang. DD is close to killing the Ringmaster, when he notices that Mickey is staring at him. DD decides to set an example, show Mickey that the law applies to everyone and that the justice system works. DD knocks out Ringmaster and leaves him to the police.
Mickey turns her life around, she quits hanging out with the street gang and becomes a straight A student. Mickey decides she wants to be a lawyer when she grows up. Matt also decides to become Mickey's guardian devil.
TheManWithoutFear said:Good good. I have a question. Is Daredevil used to killing for punishment on a regular basis?
yeah, I was just checking because the way you put it made it sound like he usually killed his enemies. I figured not anyone like stiltman but more dangerous villains.The Overlord said:What do you mean?
If your asking should ultimate DD kill his enemies, then I would say no. DD should keep his code against killing, he believes in the law and that only the state has the right to kill a criminals and only after a fair trial. However when DD is starting out his moral code would not be well defined and he would be tempted to kill his enemies in extreme cases, Ringmaster because he is a child killer and Slade because he killed DD's father. But he always backs off before he kills his enemies and hands them over to the police.
As DD becomes more experienced, his code against killing becomes stronger and only under very extreme circumstances would Matt question it.
I mean it be silly if DD saw Stilt-Man robbing a bank and decides that he would kill Stilt-Man as punishment for his crimes.
TheManWithoutFear said:yeah, I was just checking because the way you put it made it sound like he usually killed his enemies. I figured not anyone like stiltman but more dangerous villains.
The Overlord said:Ah, lighten up, we're just having some fun.
Agreed. Also, I really like the whole "immature aspect of Daredevil earlier in his career". This would open up for a great arc between USM and UDD.The Overlord said:I only mentioned Matt being tempted to kill twice, and I always stated that Matt would be tempted but would not do it. I think when Matt is starting out as DD be would be less mature and since Ultimate Ringmaster would be one of the first enemies he would face, he would not fully psychologically prepared to face something as evil as a child killer and his natural reaction would be to kill him.
Matt would be tempted to kill Slade, because he would have unresolved anger over his father's death and it still be early in his career as DD. In those two events, it makes sense that DD has an urge to kill his enemy. If it used more then those two times to will become a cliche.
I have been going through some ideas. When I've got it all together, I'll toss them out. Thing with Maggie is she's undoubtedly one of the most favorable characters in DD mythology. Like Stick, people won't want much changed.The Overlord said:Anyway got any ideas for ultimate Sister Maggie?
:wink: TigerBass said:I'm just trying to bait MWOF. :wink:
TheManWithoutFear said:If there were more of Ultimate Elektra I don't think they'd do a death and resurrection storyline. It wouldn't be "Ultimate" enough. And Elektra doesn't need any powers people like the character as she is. I, personally, wouldn't mind seeing some of this but If anyone else on this board looked at this thread (we're the only ones) they'd probably disagree with you.
I want to improve on Ultimate Lightning.
Ultimate Lightning- Originally owned by Stick and was very loyal to him. When Stick ventured to Japan he fought Kirgi and died. When Murdock returned to his office Lightning was on the front stoop. Murdock took the dog in and it's now a very popular mascot for Nelson & Murdock.