Transformers Live-Action Continuities - Timelines

Pro Bot said:
The Bumblebee Prequel is canon to the Expanded Universe, which means that some version of AoE and TLK are canon.

Sector 7 #4 (Sergeant Donavan)
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Bumblebee Movie Prequel (Heath Donavan, son of WW2 Donavan)
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He even has Jetfire from RotF, who was shown to be active throughout the Sector 7 comic series. Since Bumblebee Movie Prequel is directly connected to Sector 7, which is directly connected to Transformers Movie Prequel... then Bumblebee lost his voice in 10,000 B.C., regained or replaced it, landed on Earth sometime before 1944, continued living on Earth to the 1960s, went back to space, lost his new voice, and then went back to Earth in 2003. This is the intention of the Bumblebee prequel comic, it must be because these are DIRECT, undeniable connections to the IDW timeline. There's a list of references on my timeline.

Oh, and if you're placing Bumblebee in a separate Timeline, why not make the last two pages of the prequel as 1987 (leading to an alt. version of Bumblebee in the Bayverse)?
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Please don't pester me about this today. Not a good time.
 
It's not pestering. It's me informing you that one comic book is directly connected to another comic book's events (and those comics are on different timelines here). I apologise if it was annoying to you, I'm not informed about your life and that's your business. I hope you're doing okay though.
 
Pro Bot said:
It's not pestering. It's me informing you that one comic book is directly connected to another comic book's events (and those comics are on different timelines here). I apologise if it was annoying to you, I'm not informed about your life and that's your business. I hope you're doing okay though.
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No it was a panic attack, unrelated.
 
Pro Bot said:
The Bumblebee Prequel is canon to the Expanded Universe, which means that some version of AoE and TLK are canon.

Sector 7 #4 (Sergeant Donavan)
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Bumblebee Movie Prequel (Heath Donavan, son of WW2 Donavan)
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He even has Jetfire from RotF, who was shown to be active throughout the Sector 7 comic series. Since Bumblebee Movie Prequel is directly connected to Sector 7, which is directly connected to Transformers Movie Prequel... then Bumblebee lost his voice in 10,000 B.C., regained or replaced it, landed on Earth sometime before 1944, continued living on Earth to the 1960s, went back to space, lost his new voice, and then went back to Earth in 2003. This is the intention of the Bumblebee prequel comic, it must be because these are DIRECT, undeniable connections to the IDW timeline. There's a list of references on my timeline.

Oh, and if you're placing Bumblebee in a separate Timeline, why not make the last two pages of the prequel as 1987 (leading to an alt. version of Bumblebee in the Bayverse)?
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If the events of AOE / TLK happened, the rest of the tie-in comics can't. Just an implied shared history between the two or three timelines, so the inverse of what you're saying is true. (The events of AoE / TLK are exclusive to the main timeline, with some bits of history from the comic timeline, but there is no connective tissue between the Bumblebee timeline, the comic tie-in timeline nor the Bayverse timeline.)
 
Comparatively, I could ignore the Earth-12041 designation for the 2010s Marvel Animated Universe and shove Earth-8096 events in there with wild headcanons and theories but that goes against so many factors we're arguing against. Ultimately, common sense tells me "the simplest explanation is that they're separate timelines with some similarities."
 
selfishmisery said:
If the events of AOE / TLK happened, the rest of the tie-in comics can't. Just an implied shared history between the two or three timelines, so the inverse of what you're saying is true. (The events of AoE / TLK are exclusive to the main timeline, with some bits of history from the comic timeline, but there is no connective tissue between the Bumblebee timeline, the comic tie-in timeline nor the Bayverse timeline.)
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See, that's fine, but why can't they? Maybe I'll find out as I'm going through every one of those comics. So far... it's totally okay though.
 
selfishmisery said:
Titan Magazine's Alternate Timeline (Tyran 208.28 Gamma)
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Aren't there two Titan Magazine timelines?

Oh, and I wanted to ask, do you remember where the June 23-25 timeline in Rise of the Beasts comes from?
 
Pro Bot said:
The Bumblebee Prequel is canon to the Expanded Universe, which means that some version of AoE and TLK are canon.

Sector 7 #4 (Sergeant Donavan)
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Bumblebee Movie Prequel (Heath Donavan, son of WW2 Donavan)
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View attachment 2634

He even has Jetfire from RotF, who was shown to be active throughout the Sector 7 comic series. Since Bumblebee Movie Prequel is directly connected to Sector 7, which is directly connected to Transformers Movie Prequel... then Bumblebee lost his voice in 10,000 B.C., regained or replaced it, landed on Earth sometime before 1944, continued living on Earth to the 1960s, went back to space, lost his new voice, and then went back to Earth in 2003. This is the intention of the Bumblebee prequel comic, it must be because these are DIRECT, undeniable connections to the IDW timeline. There's a list of references on my timeline.

Oh, and if you're placing Bumblebee in a separate Timeline, why not make the last two pages of the prequel as 1987 (leading to an alt. version of Bumblebee in the Bayverse)?
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I suppose Bumblebee coming to Earth in 2003 in Movie Prequel is no different than the other Autobots coming to Earth in 2007, despite the fact that they are implied to have been here far longer tham that according to the paintings in TLK.

But there is a problem (besides the fact that the main Autobot cast having visited Earth before as shown in TLK is never addressed in the Expanded Universe comics). In the timeline that the Writers' Room came up with, it says that Megatron was trapped in the ice by the Witwiccans in the Victorian Era, instead of thousands of years ago like the comics established (timestamp: 2:50).
 
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Personally, I think the expanded universe is its own timeline separate from the TLK one. However, some elements and stories from the expanded timeline may have happened in the TLK timeline as well since they are referenced in the BB Prequel comic like Pro Bot says.

Also, since the BB prequel comic is meant to be well a prequel to a version of the BB movie, then it might be that a version of the movie is canon to the TLK timeline.
 
BB10 said:
But there is a problem (besides the fact that the main Autobot cast having visited Earth before as shown in TLK is never addressed in the Expanded Universe comics). In the timeline that the Writers' Room came up with, it says that Megatron was trapped in the ice by the Witwiccans in the Victorian Era, instead of thousands of years ago like the comics established (timestamp: 2:50).
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I would personally count the thousands of years ago thing over that, simply because that was never established in the films, thus, no contradiction.
 
BB10 said:
I suppose Bumblebee coming to Earth in 2003 in Movie Prequel is no different than the other Autobots coming to Earth in 2007, despite the fact that they are implied to have been here far longer tham that according to the paintings in TLK.

But there is a problem (besides the fact that the main Autobot cast having visited Earth before as shown in TLK is never addressed in the Expanded Universe comics). In the timeline that the Writers' Room came up with, it says that Megatron was trapped in the ice by the Witwiccans in the Victorian Era, instead of thousands of years ago like the comics established (timestamp: 2:50).
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personally for me

every type of media > statements

so in this case

Comics > Statements
 
Pro Bot said:
I would personally count the thousands of years ago thing over that, simply because that was never established in the films, thus, no contradiction.
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Megatron said:
personally for me

every type of media > statements

so in this case

Comics > Statements
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IMO the timeline does have some validity, since it was the basis of the TLK film lore. Plus we do see a Transformer with TLK Megatron's design during the Krakatoa event in a promotional picture, leading validity to the Victorian era statement.
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But I can see taking the already released comic over the Writer's Room timeline.
 
selfishmisery said:
A quick skimming through these, here's the order of those in-between stories:
1.) Operation H.I.S.S. comic - Cobra Commander and Destro remain captured, Storm Shadow is discovered to be alive. (Also, substitute the "weeks later"s for "hours later" in the story and there's no discrepancies.)
2.) G.I. JOE: Rise of Cobra (sequel video game) - Baroness escapes but game ends with her recaptured, while Cobra Commander and Destro escape
3.) G.I. JOE: Retaliation Prequel comic - ...I can't find info about the last two issues, so I'll assume Storm Shadow gets away at the end. BUT, he is now leader of the Red Ninja clan which he is shown to be still leading in the...
4.) Operation H.I.S.S. animated shorts - Baroness escapes at the start, but by the end Storm Shadow and Cobra Commander, implicitly Baroness AND Destro offscreen(?), all recaptured by the end

Then there's the 2nd film. Honestly, I can easily interpret the timespan of these 4 stories as happening as under 10 days tbh.

G.I. JOE: Rise of Cobra (film) - August 9-11th, 2015
Operation H.I.S.S. (comic) - August 11-13th, 2015
G.I. JOE: Rise of Cobra (video game) - August 13 - 14th, 2015
G.I. JOE: Retaliation Prequel (comic) - August 14-16th, 2015(?; I don't own the trade paperback)
Operation H.I.S.S. (animated shorts) - August 16-17th, 2015
G.I. JOE: Retaliation (film) - August 17-21st, 2015
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Is this based on this dialogue?

JAYE: This is the President on August 9th.

PRESIDENT: ...an addiction to offshore energy, where we're forced to be kind of embroiled in the affairs of foreign nations.

And this is 10 days later. I mean, otherwise, we're sort of... These are conversational fillers. Little phrases we spit out to give our brain a chance to catch up with our mouth. Like...
- Like.
- Yes.

ROADBLOCK: And our President? Between August 9th and August 19th, he stopped using "you know" and "kind of" and started using "I mean" and "sort of." But that's not all. "Supper" became "dinner." "Soda" became "pop." One President, two fingerprints. But it's a few words, right? I mean, how much can... Check this out. Two press conferences, July 31st, September 1st. See his fingers clasped? Left thumb on top versus right thumb on top. The same person never does this differently, it feels wrong. What if the President isn't the President?
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Doesn't the fact that they refer to September 1st as a date with the fake president imply that the movie is set after September 1st? Also, where'd the thing about it being set before 2016 come from? (I believe you, it's just that your explanation was the nuclear conference and I'm not sure I follow)
 
But then, the timeline is all screwed because it was the real president in the first film. You're just kinda fucked. Maybe there's a month time jump in the sequel?
 
July 31th - August 9th - Real President
August 19th - September 1st - Fake President

That's the only information I can get out of that, to be honest.
 
"15% reduction by 2016"
There we go, found it! Now the problem is the September 1st thing. I don't know how that fits with the established timeline. Regardless, the first film is definitely somewhere in that August 9th - August 19th gap, between the years 2009-2016.
 
Pro Bot said:
"15% reduction by 2016"
There we go, found it! Now the problem is the September 1st thing. I don't know how that fits with the established timeline. Regardless, the first film is definitely somewhere in that August 9th - August 19th gap, between the years 2009-2016.
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The reason I went with 2015 is because you see that year given onscreen.
Are you just reading the transcript?
 
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