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Megatron said:
oh and with the Dark of the movie prequel game is a mistery, it contradicts the prequel comics so it isn't in the expanded universe, but seems to coontradict the movies too, don't remember but one guy in the tf wiki asked about this and Chris (the guy who do the basics) says it isn't canon in the main movie universe. (I personally didn't find any, telling only for advise you)
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I think it says that they haven't seen any Deceptions for 3 years or something along those lines, implying that it's 3 years after ROTF rather than 4 years.
 
I'm not working on a detailed timeline or anything, but this is what I've gathered from a quick glance here and there.

65,000,000 B.C.
????
Transformers: Age of Extinction (Flashback)

17,000 B.C
????
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Flashback)

484
????
Transformers: The Last Knight (Flashback)

1641 [Canon Disputed]
????
G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra (Flashback)

1897
September 7
Transformers (Flashback)

1945
????
Transformers: The Last Knight (Flashback)

1961
????
Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Flashback)

1969
July 16
Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Flashback)

197?
????
28 Days (Flashback)

1980
June 13
Friday the 13th: Killer Cut (Flashback)

1987
????
Agent Burns: Welcome to Sector 7
Bumblebee

1989
????
Sector 7 Adventures: The Battle at Half Dome

1994
????
Transformers: Rise of the Beasts

2000
????
28 Days

2007
May-June
Transformers

2008
May-June
Friday the 13th: Killer Cut

2009
????
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

2010
????
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

2013
????
Transformers: Dark of the Moon

2018
????
Transformers: Age of Extinction

2021 [Canon Disputed]
????
Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins

2023
????
Transformers: The Last Knight

20?? [Canon Disputed]
????
G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra
G.I. Joe: Retaliation
 
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If I can make a suggestion I would wait for rise of the beasts to come out, if the movie proves that the prequel route it's true, then if you want you can make a timeline, since I will do this in the far future I will certanly start with the expanded universe one. If you make the timeline can I use it for the Multiverse Order I did for Transformers?
 
Pro Bot said:
collider.com

‘Renfield’ Director Chris McKay Reveals the Movie is a Sequel to 1931’s ‘Dracula’

That's genuinely a surprising sequel!
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Looking back at this, it's possible he's saying that this is the only "direct" sequel. Dracula's Daughter doesn't feature Dracula. Son of Dracula doesn't feature Dracula. The only films that feature Dracula after the 1931 film are crossovers like House of Frankenstein.

Now, Renfield isn't present in those films since he was supposed to be dead in the 1931 film, so that would be an issue. Renfield appears to retcon it so that Dracula let him live to serve.

Other than that, there's a possibility all these films are the same universe.
1899 - Frankenstein
1899 - The Bride of Frankenstein
1931 - Dracula
1931 - Dracula's Daughter
1931 - The Invisible Man
1935 - Werewolf of London
1939 - Son of Frankenstein
1939 - The Wolf Man
1940 - The Invisible Man Returns
1940 - The Invisible Woman
1941 - Invisible Agent
1942 - The Ghost of Frankenstein
1943 - Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man
1943 - Son of Dracula
1944 - House of Frankenstein
1944 - The Invisible Man's Revenge
1946 - House of Dracula
1948 - Meet Frankenstein
1951 - Meet the Invisible Man
2023 - Renfield

Technically speaking, if we include novel crossovers as canon then The Mummy's Hand series is canon. Then, if we include the sequel mobile game that you can't even find anymore of The Mummy (2017), then The Mummy/Scorpion King films are canon because that game crosses over with The Mummy's Hand. The Mummy (2017) had references to the Creature from the Black Lagoon so that would be canon too. The longest running shared universe, lol.
 
Megatron said:
If I can make a suggestion I would wait for rise of the beasts to come out, if the movie proves that the prequel route it's true, then if you want you can make a timeline, since I will do this in the far future I will certanly start with the expanded universe one. If you make the timeline can I use it for the Multiverse Order I did for Transformers?
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I'm not making any timeline of it right now, but sure. If I did make one, of course you can.
 
Pro Bot said:
It's a short video on the home release of Bumblebee.

Transformers (film series) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
Agent Burns: Welcome to Sector 7 (2019)
A short released as an in-universe orientation video, of Agent Burns addressing new hires.
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It is funny to see someone using the thing I wrote (with sources + I own Bumblebee on Blu-ray) on wikipedia, yeah of course it was proofread by someone else, english is not my first language, but yeah
 
Pro Bot said:
Looking back at this, it's possible he's saying that this is the only "direct" sequel. Dracula's Daughter doesn't feature Dracula. Son of Dracula doesn't feature Dracula. The only films that feature Dracula after the 1931 film are crossovers like House of Frankenstein.

Now, Renfield isn't present in those films since he was supposed to be dead in the 1931 film, so that would be an issue. Renfield appears to retcon it so that Dracula let him live to serve.

Other than that, there's a possibility all these films are the same universe.
1899 - Frankenstein
1899 - The Bride of Frankenstein
1931 - Dracula
1931 - Dracula's Daughter
1931 - The Invisible Man
1935 - Werewolf of London
1939 - Son of Frankenstein
1939 - The Wolf Man
1940 - The Invisible Man Returns
1940 - The Invisible Woman
1941 - Invisible Agent
1942 - The Ghost of Frankenstein
1943 - Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man
1943 - Son of Dracula
1944 - House of Frankenstein
1944 - The Invisible Man's Revenge
1946 - House of Dracula
1948 - Meet Frankenstein
1951 - Meet the Invisible Man
2023 - Renfield

Technically speaking, if we include novel crossovers as canon then The Mummy's Hand series is canon. Then, if we include the sequel mobile game that you can't even find anymore of The Mummy (2017), then The Mummy/Scorpion King films are canon because that game crosses over with The Mummy's Hand. The Mummy (2017) had references to the Creature from the Black Lagoon so that would be canon too. The longest running shared universe, lol.
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This is the longest running cinematic universe... wow
 
My theory is that the Bayverse is "canon" as an alternate timeline, in a similar sense to Raimi's Spider-Man and Webb's Spider-Man to the MCU. If Unicron is here, that Bayverse Earth got shredded and whoever survived was a select few Autobots (turned Maximals) and 'Cons (turned Terrorcons).

They go back in time a few hundred years and create a new timeline where anything between, I dunno, before there's any Cybertronian Knights to the 2020s is completely altered. Everything before is still canon.

IIRC Transformers runs on Marvel's multiverse/timeline logic. I.E. Branches.
 
Don't even try to fit in the tie-in comics in the 5-movie timeline btw. I would imagine there's 3 main ones.

1.) First 5 movies. Nothing else, Michael Bay won't allow it.
2.) The "expanded universe" with only the first 3 movies canon, plus most tie-in material. (Throw in both pre-reboot/live-action GI Joe movies and Jem & the Holograms' movie if you want lol.)
3.) Bumblebee, Rise of the Beast, onwards. (Snake Eyes prequel/reboot as well?)
 
selfishmisery said:
My theory is that the Bayverse is "canon" as an alternate timeline, in a similar sense to Raimi's Spider-Man and Webb's Spider-Man to the MCU. If Unicron is here, that Bayverse Earth got shredded and whoever survived was a select few Autobots (turned Maximals) and 'Cons (turned Terrorcons).

They go back in time a few hundred years and create a new timeline where anything between, I dunno, before there's any Cybertronian Knights to the 2020s is completely altered. Everything before is still canon.

IIRC Transformers runs on Marvel's multiverse/timeline logic. I.E. Branches.
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Depends if Bumblebee Is a reboot and if Bumblebee Is a pre-unicron Crisis universe (for knowing second condition we have to see if Unicron Is aware of the multiverse). If this 2 condition are true, then your theory could be 90% Canon.
 
selfishmisery said:
Don't even try to fit in the tie-in comics in the 5-movie timeline btw. I would imagine there's 3 main ones.

1.) First 5 movies. Nothing else, Michael Bay won't allow it.
2.) The "expanded universe" with only the first 3 movies canon, plus most tie-in material. (Throw in both pre-reboot/live-action GI Joe movies and Jem & the Holograms' movie if you want lol.)
3.) Bumblebee, Rise of the Beast, onwards. (Snake Eyes prequel/reboot as well?)
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4) Sector 7 ARG Timeline
5) Titan Comics movies timeline
Anyway agree.
 
selfishmisery said:
My theory is that the Bayverse is "canon" as an alternate timeline, in a similar sense to Raimi's Spider-Man and Webb's Spider-Man to the MCU. If Unicron is here, that Bayverse Earth got shredded and whoever survived was a select few Autobots (turned Maximals) and 'Cons (turned Terrorcons).

They go back in time a few hundred years and create a new timeline where anything between, I dunno, before there's any Cybertronian Knights to the 2020s is completely altered. Everything before is still canon.

IIRC Transformers runs on Marvel's multiverse/timeline logic. I.E. Branches.
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I've seen that theory and I like it. Could be cool, though the way they've said it suggests that Optimus, for instance, will eventually experience the 2007 film and this new reboot series is leading directly into the original series.

This is a nice way to do it though, because it basically makes Rise of the Beasts a sequel to The Last Knight in a Days of Future Past way, with Unicron as a crossover between the two Transformers realities. Creative explanation if they go that route.
 
Pro Bot said:
I've seen that theory and I like it. Could be cool, though the way they've said it suggests that Optimus, for instance, will eventually experience the 2007 film and this new reboot series is leading directly into the original series.

This is a nice way to do it though, because it basically makes Rise of the Beasts a sequel to The Last Knight in a Days of Future Past way, with Unicron as a crossover between the two Transformers realities. Creative explanation if they go that route.
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Might be clever word play to avoid spoilers, also.
 
I don't think they are going to do that. It would be cool, but like I said some time ago, I get the impression that we end up writing a better movie here that what eventually comes out.
 
According to the Transformers Wiki:
-Yes, in the Transformers Multiverse even toys that have descriptions in their bios that contradicts their canon stories (probably based in an earlier draft of the films) have their own universe.
-They stopped naming the universes years ago, so Bumblebee, its comic prequel and the other comic that ties into the 2007 film have not been classified. They could be 3, 2 or 1 different universes that at the same time could be or not part of Tyran 707.04 Delta
 
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Jozaca said:
According to the Transformers Wiki:
-Yes, in the Transformers Multiverse even toys that have descriptions in their bios that contradicts their canon stories (probably based in an earlier draft of the films) have their own universe.
-They stopped naming the universes years ago, so Bumblebee, its comic prequel and the other comic that ties into the 2007 film have not been classified. They could be 3, 2 or 1 different universes that at the same time could be or not part of Tyran 707.04 Delta
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That makes things much more simple. Bumblebee, the Sector 7 shorts, the five Transformers films, and, depending on how far we want to go, 28 Days and Friday the 13th (2009) would be set in the Tyran 707.04 Delta branch of the cinematic continuity. Everything else would be slightly different universes in the same multiversal cluster of the Transformers Multiverse.

selfishmisery said:
2.) The "expanded universe" with only the first 3 movies canon, plus most tie-in material. (Throw in both pre-reboot/live-action GI Joe movies and Jem & the Holograms' movie if you want lol.)
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I read somewhere that G.I. Joe: Retaliation reuses audio of William Lennox from Transformers: Dark of the Moon. That doesn't make them connected since, obviously, they're just reusing assets, but it's interesting. Lennox could have took part in the battle.

As for G.I. Joe canon, I guess Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins would be a standalone movie since the next film is a sequel to Retaliation. Unless they retcon it as a prequel because it failed hard and they're not continuing it, then it's just its own Snake Eyes universe.
 
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