Thor Movie

How would you rate Thor?

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I kind of wish that the Warrior's Three could join the Avengers too. They're a riot in every scene. If not Hogun and Fandral than at least Volstagg!
 
Bass said:
Thor's change was indeed, a little too insubstantial, but Loki was terrific. He did exactly what you asked, and he was so subtle, you missed it. Loki did it the way Loki would - no smiling and twirling of the moustache. He sits down next to Thor and says, "You can't do anything... except defy father's will. Oh no, Thor. Don't do that!" He manipulates everyone brilliantly by going round and saying they should do something wrong then tries to talk them out of it. He reminded me of Iago from OTHELLO, and I'm sure that's how Branagh told Hiddleton to play it.

But you do have a point: physically, Loki was no real match for Thor and so the climax felt a little one-sided. Once Thor saw through his deceptions, it was way too obvious who'd win and how.
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Nope, I didn't miss that. I noticed it, and it was awesome. I guess I should have fully stated what I meant. Loki showed him self to be a pest, and that he wanted to get Thor in trouble, but that's a far cry from being evil and being Thor's enemy. Loki wanted to ruin "Thor's big day" and manipulate him into doing something that would make their father angry with him, but he wasn't trying to start a war or get Thor banished (at least that's how I interpreted it). He plants the idea for Thor to go to Jotunheim but then tells on him so Odin will rescue them, and he sincerely tries to smooth things over with King Laufey to prevent a battle (he swears when the one giant mocks Thor, knowing that will provoke him to attack). That's pretty drastically different from trying to wipe out the entire race (even though, I'm sure finding out he's one of them was pretty jarring for him).

It comes down to the same thing as Thor's "character arc", it's shallow. Thor is arrogant and is humbled by the girl and being unworthy, Loki becomes evil when he finds out he's a frost giant. Loki's fall and Thor's redemption could have made an awesome story, especially in juxtaposition with each other. That would have made me care about the characters, and that was what this film needed desperately.

The world of Thor is completely fantastical and unbelievable. I can only speak for myself when I say that my suspension of disbelief only stretches so far before it breaks, and Thor took it far beyond that point. But, if the movie had given me a reason to care about the characters, made them more than 2D villains and heroes, then I feel like my suspension of disbelief would have submitted to the fact that I cared about what was happening. Thor and Loki are brothers, and they love each other, but their relationship is made complicated by competition and arrogance and jealousy. What does it take for the favoured, arrogant older brother to grow into the hero and the jealous younger brother to become the villain? Thor and Loki are the anti-Boromir and Faramir; their story could have been at least as interesting and heartfelt as Boromir and Faramir's was in LOTR, but instead they glossed over that and gave us the forced romance, the Avengers tie-ins, and the cliche hero sacrifice.

So again, the movie was fun, the action was cool, the visuals were stunning, the humor was great, but the story sucked and the character arcs were shallow. I don't know why that bothered me so much this time as opposed to other times this has been true in movies, but it did. Maybe when I watch it again (on DVD) I'll know what to expect and be able to enjoy it for what it is - a fun summer blockbuster.
 
bluebeast said:
I kind of wish that the Warrior's Three could join the Avengers too. They're a riot in every scene. If not Hogun and Fandral than at least Volstagg!
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DIrishB said:
Eh, probably not in Avengers, but no worries. I'm sure they'll all be back for the guaranteed-to-happen Thor 2.
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I demand they have at least a cameo during The Avengers. It would be awesome if they get to show up, along with like every other cool side character from all the Marvel films so far, during the hypothetical giant climactic battle.

I saw it again today and there's definitely a case to be made for
Selvig being influenced by Loki during most or all of his scenes.
The theater was also even fuller tonight than on opening Friday! Good word-of-mouth must be working for it. :)
 
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Oh yeah, figure I might aswell give my two cents

Loved it, though the plot kinda felt like it was writing itself.

Couple issues I have though. Relegating Donald Blake to mere lip-service, Personally I would have loved to have seen JMS's take on the Don-Thor dynamic. But I can understand it being left out.

Kinda wish that Sif and the Warriors Three, did more you know, they were great but most of the time they were kinda just.....there

Balder, where the hel was Balder? honestly after Loki/Thor/Odin he's probably the most important Asgardian character and he's left out?

I'm also a little surprised they didn't try and expand the scope of the film and include atleast glimpses of the other seven realms, and maybe atleast hint at guys like Echantress, The Executioner, Hela, Surtur, etc. etc.

anyways those are really just the nit-picks of a fan, the movie was great, maybe not Iron Man good, but definitely takes silver for Marvel Studio's IMO

Also it was pretty cool seeing Walt Simonson and JMS in this in addition to Stan

Anyways I've been trying to figure out what all was in Odins weapons chamber. Besides The Destroyer and the Casket of the Winters or whatever it's called there were six sections. I spotted Mjolnir in one in the scene when Thor and Loki were kids. There was the thing that looked like the Eye of Agamotto but is the Warlock's Eye according to Kevin Feige atleast. There was that glowing blue thing (coulda been the cosmic cube/tesseract but it didn't look like it). and there was this big stone fragment thing that I have no idea what it could be. Apparently the Infinity Gauntlet could be spotted when those Frost Giants were being nuked by The Destroyer, but I didn't catch it. That leaves one more section that wasn't glimpsed at all.

anyways 4.25/5 for me, after seeing it twice, great movie
 
Captain Canuck said:
Nope, I didn't miss that. I noticed it, and it was awesome. I guess I should have fully stated what I meant. Loki showed him self to be a pest, and that he wanted to get Thor in trouble, but that's a far cry from being evil and being Thor's enemy. Loki wanted to ruin "Thor's big day" and manipulate him into doing something that would make their father angry with him, but he wasn't trying to start a war or get Thor banished (at least that's how I interpreted it). He plants the idea for Thor to go to Jotunheim but then tells on him so Odin will rescue them, and he sincerely tries to smooth things over with King Laufey to prevent a battle (he swears when the one giant mocks Thor, knowing that will provoke him to attack). That's pretty drastically different from trying to wipe out the entire race (even though, I'm sure finding out he's one of them was pretty jarring for him).

It comes down to the same thing as Thor's "character arc", it's shallow. Thor is arrogant and is humbled by the girl and being unworthy, Loki becomes evil when he finds out he's a frost giant. Loki's fall and Thor's redemption could have made an awesome story, especially in juxtaposition with each other. That would have made me care about the characters, and that was what this film needed desperately.

The world of Thor is completely fantastical and unbelievable. I can only speak for myself when I say that my suspension of disbelief only stretches so far before it breaks, and Thor took it far beyond that point. But, if the movie had given me a reason to care about the characters, made them more than 2D villains and heroes, then I feel like my suspension of disbelief would have submitted to the fact that I cared about what was happening. Thor and Loki are brothers, and they love each other, but their relationship is made complicated by competition and arrogance and jealousy. What does it take for the favoured, arrogant older brother to grow into the hero and the jealous younger brother to become the villain? Thor and Loki are the anti-Boromir and Faramir; their story could have been at least as interesting and heartfelt as Boromir and Faramir's was in LOTR, but instead they glossed over that and gave us the forced romance, the Avengers tie-ins, and the cliche hero sacrifice.

So again, the movie was fun, the action was cool, the visuals were stunning, the humor was great, but the story sucked and the character arcs were shallow. I don't know why that bothered me so much this time as opposed to other times this has been true in movies, but it did. Maybe when I watch it again (on DVD) I'll know what to expect and be able to enjoy it for what it is - a fun summer blockbuster.
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That's fair enough, regarding Loki. As for why you didn't enjoy it; it comes down to empathy. For whatever reason, Thor and Loki and the rest didn't draw you in as much as say Stark did in IRON MAN. Happens all the time.

Gemini said:
Oh yeah, figure I might aswell give my two cents

Loved it, though the plot kinda felt like it was writing itself.

Couple issues I have though. Relegating Donald Blake to mere lip-service, Personally I would have loved to have seen JMS's take on the Don-Thor dynamic. But I can understand it being left out.

Kinda wish that Sif and the Warriors Three, did more you know, they were great but most of the time they were kinda just.....there

Balder, where the hel was Balder? honestly after Loki/Thor/Odin he's probably the most important Asgardian character and he's left out?

I'm also a little surprised they didn't try and expand the scope of the film and include atleast glimpses of the other seven realms, and maybe atleast hint at guys like Echantress, The Executioner, Hela, Surtur, etc. etc.

anyways those are really just the nit-picks of a fan, the movie was great, maybe not Iron Man good, but definitely takes silver for Marvel Studio's IMO

Also it was pretty cool seeing Walt Simonson and JMS in this in addition to Stan

Anyways I've been trying to figure out what all was in Odins weapons chamber. Besides The Destroyer and the Casket of the Winters or whatever it's called there were six sections. I spotted Mjolnir in one in the scene when Thor and Loki were kids. There was the thing that looked like the Eye of Agamotto but is the Warlock's Eye according to Kevin Feige atleast. There was that glowing blue thing (coulda been the cosmic cube/tesseract but it didn't look like it). and there was this big stone fragment thing that I have no idea what it could be. Apparently the Infinity Gauntlet could be spotted when those Frost Giants were being nuked by The Destroyer, but I didn't catch it. That leaves one more section that wasn't glimpsed at all.

anyways 4.25/5 for me, after seeing it twice, great movie
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Baldur would've been nice, but I think it'd be either him or the Warriors Three as I think they'd step on each others' toes, just as Russo and Hopkins I mean... was there any point to Rene Russo?

But "the plot wrote itself" is exactly what I've been saying: it's rather cliched (though it does have some brilliant choices that set it apart; Bifrost, the hammer on Loki, the comedy) but once the glow wears off, it feels pretty paint-by-numbers.
 
Bass said:
Baldur would've been nice, but I think it'd be either him or the Warriors Three as I think they'd step on each others' toes, just as Russo and Hopkins I mean... was there any point to Rene Russo?
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I've read that about 20 minutes of the finished film's been cut, some of which focuses on her. I hope Branagh opts for an extended cut when it's out on disc.

Almost certain that I'm the only one that cares, but: There's no official novelization of this for some reason. I love those and they usually do a lot of expand on characters like Russo's that were either bigger in the script or seemed like they should be. Peter David is the master but Chris Claremont's X-Men novelizations were great too. I'd love to see what they could've done with Thor.
 
I just saw it and enjoyed it. As I thought it wasn't the best but it was very fun. I loved the post credit scene and the final bit from Loki.

Planet-man said:
I've read that about 20 minutes of the finished film's been cut, some of which focuses on her. I hope Branagh opts for an extended cut when it's out on disc.
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That makes sense, the movie really doesn't take too much time between things, just keeps moving. It definitely feels like it should be a longer movie than it was
 
I really hope Captain America/The Avengers are more Iron Man/Thor than Incredible Hulk/Iron Man 2 because this movie was AMAZING.

I hope they have less dutch tilts though. Those were ridiculous.
 
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Finally saw Thor, it was pretty good, not great though. The performances of Hemsworth and the guy who played Loki really brought it up a level. I really wish they would have had more Asgard stuff, since all the stuff on earth was much less interesting. Also, as some have mentioned, Thor's transformation to from d bag to unselfish hero was really, really too quick. Overall, not bad. Better than Iron Man II but not as good as Iron Man. Solid B.
 
Saw this today. As a lifelong Thor reader, I expected to be disappointed to some degree by this, it was just a matter of how disappointed. Turns out I am more disappointed than I thought I would be. I really couldn't get past that they didn't come out an establish them as actual gods, just "advanced beings who could have been worshiped by the norse as deities". I know that the idea of them being actual gods doesn't really play in the greater universe aspect they are trying to create and all. And I appreciate the effort they gave to try and leave it open ended, but for me that has been one of my favorite aspects of the character so it was a bit of a problem for me.

Other things that I thought were a bit of a letdown in no order,

-The costume looked "plastic-y". Sort of like a stormtrooper suit. meh. And why the beard? There was one, count 'em, ONE story arc where Thor had a beard. I wish they had gone beardless. I know it seems like a small thing but, as someone who likes 616 Thor better than Ult Thor, it bothered me.

-Mjolnir looked more like a burger king toy than an enchanted norse battle hammer. A lot more.

-Didn't like bifrost just being a fancy alien teleporter/stargate thingy. Added to the idea of not really gods.

-More Asgard would have been better.

-Destroyer ended up being pretty easily dispatched.

-When Thor was swinging his hammer it didn't look right. His arm wasn't tight enough. Like the hammer had no weight.

Things I liked

-Flying through the snow monster thing.
-Frost giants
-FINALLY learning how all those words are pronounced!!

All that being said, it wasn't painful to sit through. (looking at you Rise of the Silver Surfer!) It had its moments and it created a serviceable enough version of the character that I am interested to see how he plays out in the Avengers.

All in all I guess I give it a 3/5.
 
Judging from his icon, betcha Mike gives a (green) glowing review for another super hero movie this summer though . . . HAH HAH!

The thing I love about America (and now world for that matter) is we are as diverse as our opinions. :eek:)
 
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