Spider-Man The Superior Spider-Man (Slott/Stegman/Delgado) SPOILERS

JG Jones is amazing and that is a great cover.

Too bad they can't have him doing anything for a book that's good. Because this is Marvel's worst book, hands down.

This last arc is/was unbearable. Every time anyone does anything, no matter how unexpected or unbelievable it is -- surprise! Their foe already thought of it and had a countermeasure in place.

And that's not even getting into the just plain dumb ideas being shown in this stupid book. J. Jonah Jamison literally gave The Raft to Spider-Man for him to use as a super hero base. I can barely type the words because my hands are averse to churning out idiocy like this.

It's baffling to me how Marvel can publish something as good as Hawkeye, Uncanny Avengers, and Daredevil and also put out this garbage at the same time.
 
E said:
All you comic book nerds are terrible. You have terrible tastes and that's why we can't have nice things.
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seriously I know you guys are talking about how marvel messes up sometimes, but that gives you no right to insult other peoples opinions if someone else like it fine but don't be an idiot and call people " comic book nerds"and insult them. Marvel can do whatever it wants.
 
MaryJaneWatson said:
seriously I know you guys are talking about how marvel messes up sometimes, but that gives you no right to insult other peoples opinions if someone else like it fine but don't be an idiot and call people " comic book nerds"and insult them. Marvel can do whatever it wants.
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Pretty much everyone on this site reads comics, including E (who started a website for people to talk about comics). We're all comic book nerds, but E is the biggest one. He was just being over the top and silly. :)
 
MaryJaneWatson said:
seriously I know you guys are talking about how marvel messes up sometimes, but that gives you no right to insult other peoples opinions if someone else like it fine but don't be an idiot and call people " comic book nerds"and insult them. Marvel can do whatever it wants.
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Relax, relax. It was just a joke.
 
So I just read the first five issues of Superior Spider-Man, as well as some of the Avenging Spider-Man issues that deal with Spider-Ock. I hate it. This isn't Spider-Man. I don't want to be over the top, but I honestly don't think I've ever read a Spider-Man story that so thoroughly missed the point of Spider-Man.

Sins Past and OMD both upset me, but this comic just kills me. I just... I can't even... Gah!
 
Captain Canuck said:
So I just read the first five issues of Superior Spider-Man, as well as some of the Avenging Spider-Man issues that deal with Spider-Ock. I hate it. This isn't Spider-Man. I don't want to be over the top, but I honestly don't think I've ever read a Spider-Man story that so thoroughly missed the point of Spider-Man.

Sins Past and OMD both upset me, but this comic just kills me. I just... I can't even... Gah!
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Wait until you see how Slott handles MJ. I don't think I've ever been so pissed off about a comic before.
 
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I honestly don't think I've ever read a Spider-Man story that so thoroughly missed the point of Spider-Man.
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Don't get me wrong - I can't stand this book and am not defending it, but I think that is the point. Doc Ock is proving he's better than Peter by doing the opposite of what Peter did or would do, and he's finding great success for the most part.
 
E said:
Don't get me wrong - I can't stand this book and am not defending it, but I think that is the point. Doc Ock is proving he's better than Peter by doing the opposite of what Peter did or would do, and he's finding great success for the most part.
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I think that's flat out the opposite of the point.

SpOck is exercising a pragmatic approach to the Spider-Man identity, driven by his own ego instead of a sense of responsibility. While he's done some things quite well (and I'm sure when Pete returns there will be some lessons taken and applied to his own approach to crime fighting), he's methodically dismantling Spidey's relationship with his friends and allies, betraying his trust with the public he's served to protect, and violating that delicate balance between humanity and justice. If you've been paying any attention to the book at all, you'll see a deliberate and shaky house of cards being built that's poised to come tumbling down around Otto's head. I think it's quite good, and every bit in step with the heart of the character. It's positing why a superior Spider-Man isn't better at all, why humility is an integral part of who the character is. Of course, that's predicated on the story ending, and ending disastrously, but I don't think most people had any doubt that was the plan all along.

But for the haters, Bleeding Cool is rumoring that the series will be ending with issue 30 and a Spidey relaunch will be hitting in April to coincide with the release of ASM2.
 
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Wasn't this supposed to be redemption for Ock? All it's done is make me hate him more.
 
So after reading #24, I think there are couple things this book is doing right.

First,the weekly format is great. It's great for people like me who aren't engrossed in the story because it's there every week. So it's kind of like it's constantly on my mind because it's constantly there to read. I do not like the book, but because of this I think it's holding my interest more than if it were monthly.

That said, I'm not paying for it, so I would imagine people who are don't think the format is great if they had to spend $16 a month on this book alone.

The other thing is the design of Spider-Man with the Venom symboite is really, really cool. And Doc Ock Spidey uses him in cool ways, mimicking the Octopus arms.
 
E said:
So after reading #24, I think there are couple things this book is doing right.

First,the weekly format is great. It's great for people like me who aren't engrossed in the story because it's there every week. So it's kind of like it's constantly on my mind because it's constantly there to read. I do not like the book, but because of this I think it's holding my interest more than if it were monthly.

That said, I'm not paying for it, so I would imagine people who are don't think the format is great if they had to spend $16 a month on this book alone.

The other thing is the design of Spider-Man with the Venom symboite is really, really cool. And Doc Ock Spidey uses him in cool ways, mimicking the Octopus arms.
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weekly? Isn't it twice a month? Are you including Superior Spider-Man Team-Up?


Anyway, now that this is ending, I picked up all the issues I missed from eBay and have been reading it. I've read through issue 16 so far, I really don't like it, EXCEPT the behind the scenes Green Goblin stuff has me intrigued. I'm going to be buying the last few issues as they come out b/c I love Green Goblin as a Spidey villain and I want to see how this Superior story ends and Peter comes back.

I've missed reading Spider-Man.

EDIT: Okay, so now I've read through issue #21. The Spider-Man 2099 story was pretty cool. Setting up Horizon to become Alchemax, the reappearance of Liz Allen and Normie, linking Tyrell Stone to Tyler Stone, and Miguel stuck in the present were all really interesting. The only thing I didn't like about the story was Spidey - although the part with him accessing Peter's memories again and the silhouette of Peter freeing himself from the rubble was cool too.
 
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From Marvel previews.... preview.


SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #31
Dan Slott (W) • Giuseppe Camuncoli (A/C)
Connecting Variants A & B by J. Scott Campbell
Variant cover by Kevin Maguire
Captain America Variant Also Available
• SERIES FINALE! The end of an era! A tale of triumph and tragedy! The GREEN GOBLIN unmasked! A hero reborn! But what does this mean for OTTO OCTAVIUS?!
• There's only one man who can save us from the Goblin Nation… PETER PARKER: The one, true SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN!
64 PGS./Rated T …5.99
 
This all seems a bit abrupt, though I guess we'll see how it plays out.

I wouldn't be surprised if we got a relaunched Superior Spidey as well.
 
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