The Iceman thread.

[Ice]

Which is a common substance in pretty much everything, if he was a killer he could kill every hero by freezing the blood in their bodies.

He did that to Emma Frost once. Almost killed her then. He can also bring upon the next ice age.

There's a lot more things he can do than just "freeze water." :?

 

[Fuzzy Birds]

Which is a common substance in pretty much everything, if he was a killer he could kill every hero by freezing the blood in their bodies.

Not only that, but he freezes the moisture in the air itself by absorbing the ambient heat. I always found it a bit strange that he couldn't work his powers the other way, and 'create' fire.

There's a lot more things he can do than just "freeze water."

Isn't he an Omega level mutant?

 

[Ice]

Isn't he an Omega level mutant?

Yes, he is. One of the most powerful mutants alive.

 

[Iceshadow]

Not only that, but he freezes the moisture in the air itself by absorbing the ambient heat.

True.

I always found it a bit strange that he couldn't work his powers the other way, and 'create' fire.

Comic nerds would have strokes, plus he'd be too powerful and someone would have to kill him.

Isn't he an Omega level mutant?

Yep!

 

[Fuzzy Birds]

Comic nerds would have strokes, plus he'd be too powerful and someone would have to kill him.

By that rationale, the Sentry should have been terminated long ago. Fingers crossed anyway.

 

[Iceshadow]

By that rationale, the Sentry should have been terminated long ago. Fingers crossed anyway.

Isn't he crazy? That kind of balances out.

But really that is more of an X-Men thing, what with Phoenix and all.

 

[bluebeast]

Ok I don't believe the credibility of these little 'statistics' for the heroes because Bobby's listed as a better fighter and smarter than Cyclops. No way that's right.

 

[SSJmole]

Where's the "The Venom thread" ?

 

[Ice]

Ok I don't believe the credibility of these little 'statistics' for the heroes because Bobby's listed as a better fighter and smarter than Cyclops. No way that's right.

That's odd. I wouldn't take credit away (and not because it's Iceman) but there's the chance Cyclops might not have been updated?

These guys (X-Men) are due for an update in the Handbook anyways. I bet that'll happen after Messiah Complex. Things could be corrected there.

And then again, Cyclops is listed as a level projection of 6, when he really can't do much with energy projection. He's really a 3 or 4 (possibly 3). Yeah, these guys need an update.

Where's the "The Venom thread" ?

It's over there by the garbage can. No wait, IN it. Sorry.

 

[bluebeast]

Where's the "The Venom thread" ?

That just redirects you to crappy 90's thread.


oooo burn.

 

[SSJmole]

That just redirects you to crappy 90's thread.


oooo burn.

but he was out in the 80's HA (1988 ) N00B!!!!!!!:lol:

 

[E]

You're not serious...are you? :?

Totally.

And the "there's water in everything" idea is crap. Characters need limitations to struggle against to make them interesting. Read this article. Now after reading that, why shouldn't Magneto be able to rip Hawaii up out of the ocean and drop it on Washington DC and take over the world? I'll answer for you - because it's ridiculous.

This kind of thing is exactly why I cannot read any X-books. I don't see how anyone can.

 

[bluebeast]

but he was out in the 80's HA (1988 ) N00B!!!!!!!:lol:

And he was ok for two years. But let's get back on topic of how Iceman is way to overpowered.

 

[thee great one]

Totally.

And the "there's water in everything" idea is crap. Characters need limitations to struggle against to make them interesting. Read this article. Now after reading that, why shouldn't Magneto be able to rip Hawaii up out of the ocean and drop it on Washington DC and take over the world? I'll answer for you - because it's ridiculous.

This kind of thing is exactly why I cannot read any X-books. I don't see how anyone can.

Because that would be straining for his powers? There are limits to his powers.

You don't read X-men so you don't know.

 

[Iceshadow]

Totally.

And the "there's water in everything" idea is crap. Characters need limitations to struggle against to make them interesting.

There was an article I linked to earlier in this thread that gave a cool explanation for his powers that didn't involve massive amounts of moisture. However, most living beings do contain water so he could kill anybody, but he is a hero and has no desire to do that, so it's up to him to restrain himself.

 

[E]

Because that would be straining for his powers? There are limits to his powers.

You don't read X-men so you don't know.

There was an article I linked to earlier in this thread that gave a cool explanation for his powers that didn't involve massive amounts of moisture. However, most living beings do contain water so he could kill anybody, but he is a hero and has no desire to do that, so it's up to him to restrain himself.

Weak.

 

[thee great one]

And this applies to X-men only?

....


I don't know what your beef is. You are over-simplifying.


You are so cynical.

 

[E]

And this applies to X-men only?

Not at all. But this is the Iceman thread, and it was in direct response to an image that was posted. It's not like I just came out of left field with something off-topic.

 

[thee great one]

I know. But it makes sense for him to being able to freeze moisture in the air of human bodies. But the writers have never defined his powers consistently and that power chart is all sorts of ridiculous.


I don't even like Iceman and I'm defending him.

 

[ProjectX2]

I can accept the freezing the moisture in the air, but I don't like him reforming from a single drop of water or whatever. That's about as stupid as Wolverine healing himself from a drop of blood.