The End of the Ultimate Universe

[Captain Canuck]

So I've read up through issue 4 now.

I can't remember if it was Bendis or someone else at Marvel, but they said it was Manhattan Island from both universes that was in Ultimate The End. The Battleworld map even says 616 and 1610.

But there are clearly differences. Ultimate Captain America is alive in Ultimate End, for one.

Is this your first Bendis comic?

Right, I understand. Bendis throws crap at the wall to see what sticks. If it was just a tie-in miniseries, I could just roll my eyes and say, "Oh Bendis." But this is supposed to be the finale for the Ultimate Universe, and it makes NO SENSE for that.

He should have written a Last Days comic about how the rift (which was previously established in Spider-Men) started acting weird when the incursion between the two worlds happened. How reality got screwed up and the New Yorks started to merge. Then he could have written a Battle Zones comic about the merged reality, where certain elements of 616 coexist with certain elements of 1610. That would have at least set up the new continuity.

This though... ugh.

 

[Ice]

But there are clearly differences. Ultimate Captain America is alive in Ultimate End, for one.

There's a lot of things that are confusing, one of the frustrating things about the series. Like how Cyclops is there in the new 616 costume and Peter Parker Spider-Man even though they shouldn't be since they were on the life raft. Bendis said #5 is supposed to answer everything so we'll see...

He should have written a Last Days comic about how the rift (which was previously established in Spider-Men) started acting weird when the incursion between the two worlds happened. How reality got screwed up and the New Yorks started to merge. Then he could have written a Battle Zones comic about the merged reality, where certain elements of 616 coexist with certain elements of 1610. That would have at least set up the new continuity.

This though... ugh.

Get out of here with your logic! Who wants to make sense around here? Pffft.

 

[Captain Canuck]

There's a lot of things that are confusing, one of the frustrating things about the series. Like how Cyclops is there in the new 616 costume and Peter Parker Spider-Man even though they shouldn't be since they were on the life raft. Bendis said #5 is supposed to answer everything so we'll see...

Issue #5 is just going to be a big splash page of Ben punching the dinosaur.

 

[DIrishB]

Issue #5 is just going to be a big splash page of Ben punching the dinosaur.

This gets my Post of the Day vote.

 

[E]

Right, I understand. Bendis throws crap at the wall to see what sticks.

You're giving him too much credit. He has a long history of writing stories that don't have an ending and don't have a point. Most of the rest are just bad.

He even does it in his GOOD books. Alias and Daredevil had some of the same problems.

 

[Ice]

Right, I understand. Bendis throws crap at the wall to see what sticks.

You're giving him too much credit.

That's basically been your motto about Bendis. So did you give him too much credit, too? :wink:

 

[Captain Canuck]

Bendis throws crap at the wall to see what sticks.

You're giving him too much credit.

That's basically been your motto about Bendis. So did you give him too much credit, too? :wink:

That's why I said it.

And E's right, Bendis does this all the time, but I just thought that he would try a little harder on this. If I was given the privilege of wrapping up the story of the universe that I basically pioneered, I would try to do something that at least was coherent.

 

[E]

That's basically been your motto about Bendis. So did you give him too much credit, too? :wink:

At one point, yes. :-(

 

[wyokid]

Just remember, there was a time where Bendis was a great writer.

 

[E]

Just remember, there was a time where Bendis was a great writer.

His Daredevil is one of the best things I've ever read.

 

[wyokid]

I've never had a comic make me so angry before. If it weren't for Star Wars I'd swear off Marvel entirely so instead I'm swearing off Bendis. What a ****ing waste of a universe. Can't wait for it to be back in decade written by Bendis like David and 2099. Just absolute garbage.

 

[DIrishB]

I've never had a comic make me so angry before. If it weren't for Star Wars I'd swear off Marvel entirely so instead I'm swearing off Bendis. What a ****ing waste of a universe. Can't wait for it to be back in decade written by Bendis like David and 2099. Just absolute garbage.

Seriously. What a lame, pointless, atrocious ending. "Absolute garbage" is the most appropriate descriptive phrase that can be applied.

 

[E]

I saw that they

Spoiler

brought back Miles's mom

- is that was terrible? I didn't read it and have no intentions.

 

[Ice]

I saw that they

Spoiler

brought back Miles's mom

- is that was terrible? I didn't read it and have no intentions.

Spoiler

She's

magically back with no explanation- "surprise, surprise." We'll see if that's brought up in

Spoiler

Spider-Man

, but chances are... not likely.

 

[Captain Canuck]

$4.99 for four two-page spreads of the same super hero year book pictures and then a two blank pages?

What the heck was that?

 

[wyokid]

$4.99 for four two-page spreads of the same super hero year book pictures and then a two blank pages?

What the heck was that?

 

[E]

This is most excellent.

 

[wyokid]

I just realized I have to buy this in trade to complete my Ultimate collection.

 

[E]

I just realized I have to buy this in trade to complete my Ultimate collection.

I gave up on that notion around the time of Mike Carey UFF.

 

[Mattimeo84]

I just realized I have to buy this in trade to complete my Ultimate collection.

I'm right there with you.