Re: The Avengers (Hickman) Discussion: Spoliers
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Avengers The Avengers by Jonathan Hickman discussion (spoliers)
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Ultimate Houde
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Wasn't the white event what sparked new universe?
I never read the original New Universe but I think that's what was the catalyst for people receiving powers in newuniversal.
Ultimate Houde
UC's Resident Genetic Recombinator
I wonder if it's the same 'event' then.
Ultimate Houde
UC's Resident Genetic Recombinator
And it looks like I was right.
I saw a blog post about it yesterday but didn't read it because I haven't read this week's issue yet.
Ice
Teh Sexy Monkey Queen
Hickman is a clever, clever man.
I have to admit when I read the solits for #11:
...I groaned a little. It sounded a little too X-Men-playing-baseball for my tastes.
BUT I was wrong - it was a fantastic issue with the casino stuff completely relevant to the story, great dialogue, and genuinely funny moments, especially Cannonball and Sunspot and Widow wanting to kill the terrorists.
And while Deodato has been kind of hit and miss for me lately, he seems much improved in the last couple Avengers issues.
...I groaned a little. It sounded a little too X-Men-playing-baseball for my tastes.
BUT I was wrong - it was a fantastic issue with the casino stuff completely relevant to the story, great dialogue, and genuinely funny moments, especially Cannonball and Sunspot and Widow wanting to kill the terrorists.
And while Deodato has been kind of hit and miss for me lately, he seems much improved in the last couple Avengers issues.
Friday
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This... This just hasn't been doing it for me. I was pretty hot on it when it started but the entire thing, Avengers, New Avengers, Infinity... its all so detached and feels so clinical. Its cold. There's so little life and the scope has gone so big that I don't feel like I ever see the Avengers doing anything. It just seems to me like we're getting the cliff notes version of everything. But instead of giving us the character moments we get 3 or 4 more pages of alien worlds dieing and the Green Sword Lady and her Dog Man telling us whats happening instead of us seeing it happen.
Its just very frustrating because I know Hickman can do some very good work and this... this just isn't. I'm giving it until the end of Infinity then I'm probably going to drop both of his Avengers books.
Its just very frustrating because I know Hickman can do some very good work and this... this just isn't. I'm giving it until the end of Infinity then I'm probably going to drop both of his Avengers books.
I totally agree.
I won't be dropping them anytime soon, because I trust Hickman and his Fantastic Four took a while to start developing (and the last third of it was phenomenal), but it IS slow to develop and detached and clinical are perfect words to describe it. It doesn't have the warmth that Fantastic Four had, even when it was moving slow.
I think it's more the Infinity stuff than the book overall, because before the Infinity prelude stuff it was still a solid book. But Infinity has really dragged the book down. New Avengers has promise but it's the same way; just dragging. Infinity itself was a bit of a mess (the first issue anyway; I haven't read the second yet).
The first few issues of Avengers had that same warmth and personality that was in Fantastic Four but it died off. I'm hoping Infinity will pick up but I don't have much faith; it's just so complicated and I have no idea what's going on. Maybe things will get back on track after it's over.
Ice
Teh Sexy Monkey Queen
In December, there will be an Avengers 24.NOW issue that starts a new story "Rogue Planet".
And then there's Avengers" No. 24.NOW, starting a new story, Rogue Planet, with Jonathan Hickman and Esad Ribic — as Captain America and Iron Man create a new Avengers team to deal with a planet heading straight for us.
Apparently this is supposed to spin-off into its own book, judging by this:
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And then there's Avengers" No. 24.NOW, starting a new story, Rogue Planet, with Jonathan Hickman and Esad Ribic — as Captain America and Iron Man create a new Avengers team to deal with a planet heading straight for us.
Apparently this is supposed to spin-off into its own book, judging by this:
(There was no larger image)
Ultimate Houde
UC's Resident Genetic Recombinator
The way I read the article, they were renumbering Avengers with a new #1.
but then I saw they were giving them point 1's instead, so I'm confused.
This post served only one point.
+1
but then I saw they were giving them point 1's instead, so I'm confused.
This post served only one point.
+1
ProjectX2
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In December, there will be an Avengers 24.NOW issue that starts a new story "Rogue Planet".
And then there's Avengers" No. 24.NOW, starting a new story, Rogue Planet, with Jonathan Hickman and Esad Ribic — as Captain America and Iron Man create a new Avengers team to deal with a planet heading straight for us.
Apparently this is supposed to spin-off into its own book, judging by this:
(There was no larger image)
I think that's just showing it's the first issue of the Rogue Planet arc, not the first issue of a spinoff.
It's not even that - they aren't .1s, they are .NOWs. More confusion.
wyokid
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Loved the Hyperion issue. Really reminded me how much I miss pre-New 52 Superman. Al Ewing could write a damn good Superman. That final page though just flipped everything. Really good twist and great use of the character's history. E, what did you think?
So...with the last issue of this and New Avengers, what did you guys think? Do you think you have a clear comprehension of what is going on?
I wondered if, at the end of this, I would feel compelled to re-read this like I did Fantastic Four (several times). The story was much, much more complicated than the FF stuff and I lost interest because there were so many characters involved that it became too much to get a grasp on, but with these last two issues...wow. Pretty intense and interesting. I might need to re-read.
A lot of the stuff goes back to the Fantastic Four run. All hope lies in Doom? Wow.
I hope Franklin has a part in Secret Wars.
I wondered if, at the end of this, I would feel compelled to re-read this like I did Fantastic Four (several times). The story was much, much more complicated than the FF stuff and I lost interest because there were so many characters involved that it became too much to get a grasp on, but with these last two issues...wow. Pretty intense and interesting. I might need to re-read.
A lot of the stuff goes back to the Fantastic Four run. All hope lies in Doom? Wow.
I hope Franklin has a part in Secret Wars.
Ice
Teh Sexy Monkey Queen
I loved how everything circled back to the first issue, why Tony did what he did and said to Steve in that issue. Amazing.
