The Attitude of the Fandom

[E]

We praise and rave and overhype the things we love. (Nextwave, Punisher, Fables)

And Oprah.

 

[Friday]

Example, what set me off was a thread on Monster Society of Evil. The irrational reasons they were using to throw hate; Jeff Smith's art is too cute, he made Billy & Mary look like 5 year olds (sorry, they look more like 8-9 to me, but fine), and here's the kicker; because Jeff didn't pay his dues (because he went from Indy to a major book without having to do the crap books first).

Wait, what?

Complaining about the overly cartoon art of a Cartoonist?

Complaining about doing a major book? Since when did Captain Marvel (I'm a fan of the Captain, but lets be realistic) become a tier one fight in the alley to get him property?

And keeping complaints of the characters integrity? He;s the closest to Fawcett Marvel we've had. Ever.

This boggles my mind.

* boggled *

 

[Gemini]

UC seems to walk the fine line from going overboard into the cliche fan hating everything.


We praise and rave and overhype the things we love. (Nextwave, Punisher, Fables)

We hate and seeth and burn and rape the things we hate (Ultimate Iron Man, Ultimate Deadpool, Ultimate Clone Saga, Mighty Avengers)


And instead of just hating it, we gave rational reasons for hating it.

excep Proj he hates everything right? :lol:

 

[Jaggyd]

Wait, what?

Complaining about the overly cartoon art of a Cartoonist?

Complaining about doing a major book? Since when did Captain Marvel (I'm a fan of the Captain, but lets be realistic) become a tier one fight in the alley to get him property?

And keeping complaints of the characters integrity? He;s the closest to Fawcett Marvel we've had. Ever.

This boggles my mind.

* boggled *

Yeah, so you feel my pain. Every time i brought up those exact points, the retreads on the DCMB rained down like an idiot storm.

 

[Joe Kalicki]

I liked Mighty Avengers. . .

 

[thee great one]

I liked Mighty Avengers. . .

You would.


Who are you?

 

[Joe Kalicki]

Who are you?

Venom Melendez.

 

[Ice]

And Oprah.

You get a Bendis! You get a Bendis! You get a Bendis!

EVERYONE GETS A BENDIS!!!

 

[Gemini]

You get a Bendis! You get a Bendis! You get a Bendis!

EVERYONE GETS A BENDIS!!!

this just in: a record amount of Bendises have just been put up for auction on Ebay the starting bid is $-50.00 meaning that the owner's will literally GIVE you fifty dollar's to take the Bendises away for them..... there are still no offers

 

[Jaggyd]

LOL....sorry...a webcomic I color has the best line ever...

 

[Ice]

LOL....sorry...a webcomic I color has the best line ever...

PER-FECT.

:lol:

 

[Ultimate Houde]

The Amalgam got loose!

I miss the Amaglam universe

 

[moonmaster]

I just left the DC Message Boards wanting to kill someone, and I've found myself asking a serious question to myself. Why do comic fans have so much hatred for something they profess to love?

I admit, there are certain creators I've thought about beating with an aluminum bat, but there seems to be this common cloud of hatred on comic message boards. People scream and rant about things as minor as costume changes to teams shuffles, blaming the writer (and sometimes the artist) for ruining their childhood idols. Instead of voting with their dollar, they go on and on about how their specific vision for the character should be the only one that should ever be used. As if the editorial staff will one day show up and go "You!! You're right, we've all been fools!! Thank you for correcting us!"

If you don't like a certain arc, creator, even costume...DON'T BUY THE BOOK! I swear to god, wasting valuable bandwidth because you're butthurt is asinine at best.

Forgive my rant, it's been a thorn in my paw recently. Makes me want to not do comics.

It's ridiculous to complain about a book because it doesn't fit your narrow viewpoint of what it should be. However, there's nothing wrong with pointing out CRAP.

But I can see what you mean. In the past, I tended to buy books just because they looked "important", regardless of their actual quality. Nowadays I try strictly to read only books that really entertain me and that I enjoy reading. Why waste my money on something that I don't even like?

Being a fan is over-rated.

Seriously, why can't I just 'really really really really like something'?

I think the problem I have with 'being a fan' is that there's an implicit assumption that you swear allegiance. I'm not saying you generally become part of some group cult or anything like that.

But rather, calling yourself a 'fan' means you subscribe to what is supposed to be 'right' about a character or an idea, instead of just choosing to like/love/worship something the way you like/love/worship it and practice that like/love/worship on your own terms.

In short, my view towards 'fandom' in general is the same view I have towards organized religion. I understand that it has a fundamental value for some people, but it's not FOR me.

Good point. The whole "this and only this" attitude is ridiculous. Fanboys annoy me because they miss out on so much. There are plenty of good comics out there, why not read a little bit of everything?

Now that I've slept off most of my angry, I have to admit, the part that annoys me the most is the irrational reason for the hate the fans spew.

Example, what set me off was a thread on Monster Society of Evil. The irrational reasons they were using to throw hate; Jeff Smith's art is too cute, he made Billy & Mary look like 5 year olds (sorry, they look more like 8-9 to me, but fine), and here's the kicker; because Jeff didn't pay his dues (because he went from Indy to a major book without having to do the crap books first).

I couldn't imagine the hate they were spewing. I can understand rational complaints like writing style, lack of storytelling ability, but this was seething hate. Instead of "yes well, I don't think I'll be picking up this book anymore", it was "Oh this guy sucks, he's nothing but a retard for not seeing the character the way I see the character." God forbid you disagree, then all of his/her friends will ambush you on not only that particular thread, but on EVERY thread you've posted.

What??? Who the hell could someone hate Jeff Smith? I understand hating someone like Bendis, but Jeff Smith? He just seems like a nice guy who makes fun comics. There's not even a remote reason why you could be filled with irrational hatred for Jeff Smith.

Yeah, and looking back on it, I probably got more butthurt because Jeff's a local guy and I adored Bone (sue me, I'm a girl).

I love Bone too. ...

...Does that mean that I'm a girl now?...I'm so confused...

I'm going to cover you with my general blanket term of negativity, and you're going to like it!

Aww. It's all warm and snuggly.

UC seems to walk the fine line from going overboard into the cliche fan hating everything.


We praise and rave and overhype the things we love. (Nextwave, Punisher, Fables)

We hate and seeth and burn and rape the things we hate (Ultimate Iron Man, Ultimate Deadpool, Ultimate Clone Saga, Mighty Avengers)


And instead of just hating it, we gave rational reasons for hating it.

This is what I've been talking about. We like what we like and we hate what we hate, but we don't do it for fanboy reasons. We do it because we like good comics.

And Oprah.

True. I'm currently attending her school in Africa.

Dr. Phil is the school nurse. :?

Venom Melendez.

I KNEW IT!

You get a Bendis! You get a Bendis! You get a Bendis!

EVERYONE GETS A BENDIS!!!

*vomits*

LOL....sorry...a webcomic I color has the best line ever...

:lol: :lol: :lol: