Star Trek Into Darkness discussion (spoilers)

How would you rate Star Trek Into Darkness?

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I saw the 9 minute preview before The Hobbit today in IMAX 3D.

It was really good, as far as 9-minute previews go...
 
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Alright, here's some spoilery bits that I couldn't expound on earlier.

The movie starts with a man and a woman getting up and going to a hospital to visit their sick daughter, who I am assuming is Uhura simply because the family is black. It goes to Kirk and McCoy running through a pink and red forest on some planet, away from the natives, while Spock readies himself to drop into a volcano with a device to make the volcano inert, since an eruption with destroy the planet. The ash and heat and everything causes the shuttle to malfunction and they have to leave him stranded in the volcano.

That was about it. It wasn't quite as suspenseful as the opening to the first movie with Kirk's birth but it was close. Can't wait to see it.
 
Ok, so "Cumby" (that's for Bass' peace of mind) has been touted as playing Jonathan Harris. This could be a red herring, or a false name to throw fans off track. It could also be the truth.

This would shoot down the theory of Cumby as Khan. As well as the character's apparent ties to Starfleet. It also shoots down him as being Gary Mitchell. Unless of course it's not true.

However, what about Peter Weller's character? So far his character has only been confirmed as playing a "CEO" type character. What if Weller is Khan? Obviously the CEO is either another red herring or an example of how the Khan character might've been rebooted for the new universe.

Of course Khan may have nothing at all to do with this film, but the confirmation of Alice Eve as Carol Marcus, as well as the shot of (presumably) Spock's hand on the glass against (presumably) Kirk's echoes Wrath of Khan nicely. Of course, all this could be misdirection as well.
 
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E said:
Alright, here's some spoilery bits that I couldn't expound on earlier.

The movie starts with a man and a woman getting up and going to a hospital to visit their sick daughter, who I am assuming is Uhura simply because the family is black. It goes to Kirk and McCoy running through a pink and red forest on some planet, away from the natives, while Spock readies himself to drop into a volcano with a device to make the volcano inert, since an eruption with destroy the planet. The ash and heat and everything causes the shuttle to malfunction and they have to leave him stranded in the volcano.

That was about it. It wasn't quite as suspenseful as the opening to the first movie with Kirk's birth but it was close. Can't wait to see it.
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Just got back from the preview. Suspenseful, emotional, cool looking, and funny. No worries about this one. Can't wait.
 
I saw a crappy camcorder of it and it looks fun, but I find it too hard to buy the cast as in charge of an actual flagship of a fleet. They look like teenagers, and the brightly colored costumes don't help to keep away the Californian 90s beach bum look of SAVED BY THE BELL. At least McCoy and Scotty are in their forties.

That said, its not a deal breaker, and it is fun and entertaining and I hope the film is full of that quality.

Personally, what I loved, and can't get enough of is the opening score. The theme that plays over Clarke's face before he meets Cummerbund Bandersnatch is excellent. Love it.

Also, I think it is a testament to the stupidity and immaturity of the hype-through-secrecy method that they've announced Cumby's name as Jonathan Harris yet no one believed it because they're not satisfied. No one will be. And if in the film, its a plot point that he's using a fake name, the film will be damaged by the hype. Very foolish.
 
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Personally, what I loved, and can't get enough of is the opening score. The theme that plays over Clarke's face before he meets Cummerbund Bandersnatch is excellent. Love it.
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Ha! Awesome on a level immeasurable by our current scientific methods.

Also, I think it is a testament to the stupidity and immaturity of the hype-through-secrecy method that they've announced Cumby's name as Jonathan Harris yet no one believed it because they're not satisfied. No one will be. And if in the film, its a plot point that he's using a fake name, the film will be damaged by the hype. Very foolish.
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Heh, well you'll enjoy this then:

Who is Cumby, really?

Now this may be incorrect and just more feeding crap into the rumor mill, but perhaps not. We'll see in several weeks.
 
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What if Benedict Cumberbatch is playing Bass?
 
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What if Benedict Cumberbatch is playing Bass?
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Then he can join the band.

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I think the reveal that Cummerbund Bandersnatch is playing ME would have created the exact same reaction as his reveal as Johnathan Harris.
 
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So came across some major spoilers for the film. Essentially this is a pretty detailed overview of the whole film, revealing some not so surprising things and some surprises...I guess you can call them that.

Confirmed by multiple folks across the internet. I've compliled this from multiple sources, including the now-deleted comments from IMDB. The final act is missing some stuff, like how two major characters get from one ship to another, and might have some stuff out-of-order, but all the major bits are there.

If you don't want to be spoiled, DO NOT READ BELOW THIS LINE.



IMAX preview is reversed in final film; Nibiru first, then London attack.



Nibiru: Kirk violates Prime Directive by taking the Enterprise into the volcano, and for all the locals to see to save Spock.



London: Harrison offers to cure Starfleet agent's terminally ill daughter, but at a price. Triggers a bomb at the Starfleet Data Archives.



Kirk and Spock @ Starfleet headquarters, expect to get 5-year mission, but instead due to their conflicting reports about Nibiru (Kirk lied, Spock told the truth), Kirk is removed from captaincy for Prime Directive violation on Nibiru on orders of Admiral Marcus. Pike re-assumes command of Enterprise. Spock assigned to another ship.



Kirk goes to get drunk, Pike offers emotional support and first officer post on Enterprise. "I believe in you Jim" scene from trailer.



Starfleet brass meeting about London attack. Kirk wonders why Harrison would attack, and seems to have lost some of his confidence as Marcus has to push him to get the full answer. Kirk speculates the attack was a ruse to get the brass together… and surprise, Harrison shows up, shoots up the place wounding Pike and others. Kirk shoots back, Harrison beams out. Spock melds with Pike, Pike dies. Kirk visibly shaken (father/son relationship stressed with Kirk/Pike). Kirk asks Marcus for permission to go after Harrison, who has fled to Qo'nos.



Marcus gives Kirk advanced torpedoes along with a weapons specialist (nee cute blonde lab technician) named Carol Wallace. Scotty won't let the torpedoes on board, because they're shielded and he cannae scan them. Kirk, blinded by vengeance (ha!), overrides him and promotes Chekov to Chief Engineer (go get a red shirt!). Scotty leaves Enterprise. Enterprise warps to Qo'nos.



Leaving Sulu in command on Enterprise, Kirk and co. go down to Qo'nos, and eventually get cornered by the Klingons. Harrison comes swooping in (literally), and takes all the Klingons out. Kirk tries to engage Harrison in hand-to-hand combat, but Harrison does not react. Meanwhile, McCoy and company try to open one of the torpedoes only to discover it is a cryotube containing a frozen humanoid.



Kirk arrests Harrison, all beam back to Enterprise. Spock does some homework, and discovers Carol Wallace is actually Carol Marcus; Wallace is her mother's maiden name. Enterprise confronted by USS Vengeance; Admiral Marcus in command. Marcus orders Kirk to hand over Harrision, but Kirk does not trust him. Marcus attacks Enterprise, Kirk offers himself for the lives of his crew, Marcus declines. Carol pleads her father to stop; he beams her aboard. Suddenly, USS Vengeance powers down; Scotty is aboard Engineering and contacts Kirk.



Kirk interrogates Harrision. Harrison reveals he is Khan; Section 31 found the Botany Bay, revived Khan, and kept the remainder of Khan's crew in stasis as a bargaining chip to get Khan to do as ordered. McCoy takes a blood sample from Khan.



Kirk and Khan spacejump to USS Vengeance from Enterprise, where Scotty lets them onboard. Spock calls Spock Prime on New Vulcan and asks about Khan; Spock Prime cautions that although he promised never to reveal anything about their lives, he can confirm that Khan is dangerous, and subduing him in the prime universe came at "great cost".



Khan assumes command of Vengeance from Marcus, and demands the torpedoes / cryotubes Kirk has on Enterprise. Meanwhile, McCoy does some testing with Khan's blood on a dead Tribble.



Warp speed battle ensues back to Earth. Khan decides to ram his dead ship into Starfleet Command; both Vengeance and Enterprise fall from orbit. Very TWOK here: Kirk goes to Enterprise engineering with Scotty to bring the warp core back online (instead of Spock in TWOK), and dies in the process, saving the Enterprise and his crew. In sickbay, McCoy notices that the Tribble has come back to life after the infusion of Khan's blood, figures it'll work for Kirk, and Spock beams down to Earth to chase down Khan and get a bigger sample of blood to save Kirk. Spock and Khan battle throughout San Fran and on a flying ship, with Khan continually beating Spock down, but Spock keeps getting back up. Uhura shows up, and stuns Khan over and over until they both have him subdued.



Several weeks later, Kirk awakes in hospital. Flying jets scene from trailers as Kirk, Spock and crew receive their five-year mission.

The ending just seems stupid. And JJ didn't end up keeping his big secret after all.
 
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I tweeted that already. After it had been tweeted by everyone else. You're so out of touch Dib.
 
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