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What is your favourite Star Trek show?

  • Star Trek: The Original Series

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • Star Trek: The Animated Adventures

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Star Trek: The Next Generation

    Votes: 9 40.9%

  • Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

    Votes: 5 22.7%

  • Star Trek: Voyager

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Star Trek: Enterprise

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I don't like it.

    Votes: 6 27.3%
  • Total voters
    22
ourchair said:
I don't even think "the vision" is even that important.

In fact, I find it faintly ridiculous that pop culture properties, especially when they become long-lived and extended across mutliple decades by multiple creators, must focus solely on the notion of "the vision" as if the authorial intent of a creation is more important than the possibilities of that creation.

It doesn't matter what Roddenberry "visioned" Star Trek to be, but what Roddenberry and the various creators and contributors to those 70-something episodes of TOS did well. From there any body else who wants to do new things with Trek should not focus on what can be done to ADD to that, not continuously perpetuate what has already been done while trying to second-guess the intentions of the author.
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Bingo. We wouldn't have Batman, Superman or James Bond today if more people didn't think this way.
 
ourchair said:
I don't even think "the vision" is even that important.

In fact, I find it faintly ridiculous that pop culture properties, especially when they become long-lived and extended across mutliple decades by multiple creators, must focus solely on the notion of "the vision" as if the authorial intent of a creation is more important than the possibilities of that creation.
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Yeah, I recall Stan Lee saying that Spider-man was just a job to get him diner or something along those lines, that's all he was thinking about it back then.
 
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Planet-man said:
Actually, the one place my fellow Canuck and I diverge is that I haven't seen any of the movies, except Generations, but that was at least a decade ago.
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Ah. Generations is disappointing and sucky. Which is a shame, because the premise still gives me a fan-boner.
 
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Yeah, I recall Stan Lee saying that Spider-man was just a job to get him diner or something along those lines, that's all he was thinking about it back then.
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I'm not saying visions don't exist, nor are they unimportant to the foundation of a good pop culture idea. I'm not saying that follow-up creators pay NO attention to them either.

Rather, I'm saying that investing too much in that idea cripples creativity regardless of whether it's the originator imposing his authorial vision, or a follow-up creator being sworn by the fanboys to uphold it as well.
 
Let's talk about the movies, which was the best and worst star trek movies?
 
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Some might say that Bryan Fuller has a harder road ahead of him than Barack Obama. I mean, Barack has to usher in a new era of economic prosperity but Fuller has to...fix Heroes. Gulp! But that doesn't mean that he's shying away from new projects. In fact, according to SFFMedia.com, the Pushing Daisies writer is "pushing for a new Star Trek TV series" that's based on the old style Trek.

This doesn't mean that Fuller wants to revamp the old Kirk and Spock characters like J.J. Abrams did in his upcoming summer blockbuster. He wants to return to what he considers more "emotionally complicated" territory.

"I told my agent and told the people of J.J. Abrams' team I want to create another Star Trek series and have an idea that I'm kicking around. I would love to return to the spirit of the old series with the colors and attitude," Fuller said recently in an interview with iF Magazine. "I loved Voyager and Deep Space Nine, but they seem to have lost the '60s fun and I would love to take it back to its origin."

Fuller, of course, is no stranger to Trek. He's written over twenty Trek episodes, mostly for Voyager, and two for Deep Space Nine during its final season.
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http://uk.tv.ign.com/articles/961/961944p1.html

new Trek tv show?
 
That would be pretty amazing if it follows on from the movie... I would definitely watch it.
 
It would either have to be a direct follow up to the movie or move so far ahead in the timeline that it'd be a clean slate for the most part.
 
I don't know if I'm all for that idea, to be honest. They seem to only be concerned with making a stylised, retro-kitsch Trek show, rather than making a show for any particular reason. I never want to see a Star Trek show produced for the sake of it and that's what this looks like.

On another note, my brother and I just watched Galaxy Quest and it's as great as ever. It's only slightly beaten by First Contact as my favourite Star Trek-related movie.
 
So I've been catching Enterprise on Sci Fi channel recently and I'm not sure why it gets a bum rap. I mean the episodes have interesting plot, I love the setting with the time period, just before the foundation of the federation. Characters are well written and performed. The plots are interesting. What's really wrong with it?
 
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