Runaways Vol. 2 #25-30 (Joss Whedon/Michael Ryan) (Spoilers)

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His storyline isn't over, is it? I haven't been paying attention.
 
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And it's not X-Men. Huge delays like this hurt smaller titles.
 
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Meh. I'm going to try to pretend the delays never happened, and review it as if I didn't wait 14 ****ing months for a 6 issue arc to end.

I dislike Time Travel stories, generally, and so I didn't even like the premise of this arc.
Whedon wrote the kids well. I loved his Molly, and Nico kicked all the *** she deserved in the final issue. I was pleased.
I don't like the new member. She seems added just so that Whedon can have a mark on the team.

Meh.

Ryan's art was perfect- I'm actually kind of nervous about Ramos' art. But if it gets us a constant Runaways month in and out, written by a great teen writer...it's totally worth it. I still love this book as much as I ever have.

Favorite Marvel Title.
 
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Sacred&Profane said:
Meh. I'm going to try to pretend the delays never happened, and review it as if I didn't wait 14 ****ing months for a 6 issue arc to end.

I dislike Time Travel stories, generally, and so I didn't even like the premise of this arc.
Whedon wrote the kids well. I loved his Molly, and Nico kicked all the *** she deserved in the final issue. I was pleased.
I don't like the new member. She seems added just so that Whedon can have a mark on the team.

Meh.

Ryan's art was perfect- I'm actually kind of nervous about Ramos' art. But if it gets us a constant Runaways month in and out, written by a great teen writer...it's totally worth it. I still love this book as much as I ever have.

Favorite Marvel Title.
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It's funny you say you don't like time travel stories. I was going to write myself a story that was based on true events where I went back in time to stop myself from introducing you to Runaways. :p
 
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Ice said:
It's funny you say you don't like time travel stories. I was going to write myself a story that was based on true events where I went back in time to stop myself from introducing you to Runaways. :p
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Yeah, but then S&P would be using heroin to fill his leisure time.
 
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So I was looking through an article on Newsarama on Marvel's plans for the Waht If? line.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/080629-WWCWhatIf.html

Most of the ideas didn't really interest me, until I saw this:

There is also a What If back up that continues throughout all five What Ifs where we answer the question, "What If the Runaways became the Young Avengers?" You will like.
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:shock:

I can bring back the Chase Stein Iron Man thread! Yay!
 
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This arc stank. The art for the next volume (they need another volume?) looks really horrible.

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How quickly my favorite Marvel book turned into ashes.
 
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I actually forgot it was still being printed before the last issue came out. That's the most telling critique I can give to Whedon's run on the book. 6 issues that were so mediocre, forgettable, and ridiculously late that I forgot one of my favorite series existed. Honestly, it would have been better for the Runaways to go on hiatus like Young Avengers did.

I was really excited when he took over the book. Then the delays started and the storyline sputtered and went nowhere slowly. I still like Whedon as a writer, but I will NEVER be that happy to see his name attached to a series again.

That said, I really want to give Moore a chance. And although I find the preview art that I've seen from Ramos to be hideous, I didn't hate his work on X-Men. So I'm just going to pretend Joss never touched my beloved Runaways, ignore the crappy new character he's added to the team, and try to enjoy these characters that I used to adore.
 
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McCheese said:
I actually forgot it was still being printed before the last issue came out. That's the most telling critique I can give to Whedon's run on the book. 6 issues that were so mediocre, forgettable, and ridiculously late that I forgot one of my favorite series existed. Honestly, it would have been better for the Runaways to go on hiatus like Young Avengers did.

I was really excited when he took over the book. Then the delays started and the storyline sputtered and went nowhere slowly. I still like Whedon as a writer, but I will NEVER be that happy to see his name attached to a series again.

That said, I really want to give Moore a chance. And although I find the preview art that I've seen from Ramos to be hideous, I didn't hate his work on X-Men. So I'm just going to pretend Joss never touched my beloved Runaways, ignore the crappy new character he's added to the team, and try to enjoy these characters that I used to adore.
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Completely agreed. It felt simultaneously stretched out for too long and incredibly rushed. Lilly and Victor were exactly like Romeo and Juliet--silly, shallow teenagers who think they're in love but have no depth to their relationship besides mutual physical attraction and many, many reasons why they can't (and probably shouldn't) be together.
 
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Completely agreed. It felt simultaneously stretched out for too long and incredibly rushed.
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An impressive feat to be sure.
Lilly and Victor were exactly like Romeo and Juliet--silly, shallow teenagers who think they're in love but have no depth to their relationship besides mutual physical attraction and many, many reasons why they can't (and probably shouldn't) be together.
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That's the part of his story that I really don't get. Am I supposed to care about Lilly? Am I supposed to care that some random girl fell in love with everyone's favorite talking toaster? Because I don't.

Joss' run is incredibly poorly conceived. He was only on for 6 issues and rather than developing the characters or telling a fun self-contained story featuring those characters he spent all 6 issues developing an entire cast of new characters that no one cares about and who, in all likelihood, will never be seen again. Joss didn't tell a Runaways story. He told an Olde Tyme Marvel Universe story that happened to have the Runaways in it. In six issues the only things he did for the actual cast of the Runaways was break up a couple that BKV had just put together, give Chase his gauntlets back, and add a crappy character with crappy powers that will have to be dumped by later writers.

If he had these turn of the century characters in his head and he just had to get them out, that's fine. He should have just done it as its own series. Lord knows Marvel will print just about anything that a big name writer pitches them. Instead he made Runaways fans suffer through the worst arc this series has ever seen.
 
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