Miracleman series discussion (spoilers)

DIrishB said:
So I've read the first twelve issues of this title...I really enjoy it. I'm worried I won't enjoy Gaiman's issues as much as I have Moore's however.
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You won't, but that's not because they aren't good.

The Gaiman run was awesome as well in a different way. You'll see when you read it.
 
I apparently am smart enough to hotwire a car, understand the physics in anti-terrist evasion driving, and even comprehend that if you hit a man in a certain spot on his body that he'll pass out for hours.

But apparently I am not smart enough to understand torrents. Even with the internet's help.




Sigh.
 
I've read the first two issues at this point and they're good, Moore-ish fun. I liked how the first issue came with a classic story to put it into perspective.
 
Isn't is scary as hell when it goes, "I teach your the Superman! He is this lightning! He is this madness!"

I still get chills.

*virtually hugs virtual miracleman comics*
 
I'm finally getting my head around the complex legal issues regarding Marvel/Miracleman and it's actually quite interesting when you understand it. It's almost a bit surprising that DC haven't just jumped in and sued all of the claims of ownership into oblivion since the character is just a shameless copy of Shazam to begin with and they own all rights to him, now. If DC did get all rights to Miracleman, I'm sure they'd treat the property with respect and they'd release some comprehensive trade paperbacks.

Also: I think the "how do you pronounce 'Rorschach'?" argument may have a rival in "how do you pronounce 'kimota'?". Kim-OH-tah or Kim-uh-TAH?
 
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Gothamite said:
I'm finally getting my head around the complex legal issues regarding Marvel/Miracleman and it's actually quite interesting when you understand it. It's almost a bit surprising that DC haven't just jumped in and sued all of the claims of ownership into oblivion since the character is just a shameless copy of Shazam to begin with and they own all rights to him, now. If DC did get all rights to Miracleman, I'm sure they'd treat the property with respect and they'd release some comprehensive trade paperbacks.

Also: I think the "how do you pronounce 'Rorschach'?" argument may have a rival in "how do you pronounce 'kimota'?". Kim-OH-tah or Kim-uh-TAH?
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I've never heard of even the possibility of DC getting rights to the character. The most likely scenario, which isn't even necessarily likely at all, is Gaiman & Buckingham retaining copyright, and it is believed that Gaiman would work with Marvel to release the rest of his scheduled run. I'm not sure it's ever going to be possible to re-release the Alan Moore run.

But yeah, it's a very interesting situation. Neil Gaiman started an LLC just to deal with the copyright issues and the proceeds from 1602 and I *think* Eternals went to that company.
 
E said:
But yeah, it's a very interesting situation. Neil Gaiman started an LLC just to deal with the copyright issues and the proceeds from 1602 and I *think* Eternals went to that company.
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Yeap. I remember reading that when Gaiman works with Marvel, the proceeds go to help him with the copyright issues to Miracleman. I believe it was talked about sometime after 1602 and before Eternals.
 
Todd MacFarlane's dickery really annoys me where all of this is concerned. I really can't understand why he's so keen on Miracleman (a character he's never even worked on) being in his stories; when he could just have his own shameless copy of Shazam. From what I can gather, having Miracleman in his stories doesn't really make any difference except to rattle the cage where the legal stuff is concerned. From a storytelling perspective, it's pretty trivial.

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Gothamite said:
Todd MacFarlane's dickery really annoys me where all of this is concerned. I really can't understand why he's so keen on Miracleman (a character he's never even worked on) being in his stories; when he could just have his own shameless copy of Shazam. From what I can gather, having Miracleman in his stories doesn't really make any difference except to rattle the cage where the legal stuff is concerned. From a storytelling perspective, it's pretty trivial.
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Name recognition. It was an extremely critically acclaimed series and he wanted the name for 2 new books he was launching (with profoundly retarded titles - I don't recall the names but I think one was 'Todd McFarlane's Weird Tales' or something like that).
 
E said:
Name recognition. It was an extremely critically acclaimed series and he wanted the name for 2 new books he was launching (with profoundly retarded titles - I don't recall the names but I think one was 'Todd McFarlane's Weird Tales' or something like that).
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Todd McFarlane's Twisted Tales and Todd McFarlane's Alien Worlds.

Yeah, really.

Hey, someone should give McFarlane Loeb's phone number. They deserve each other.
 
I've finished Moore's run and I really can't see why I should bother reading Gaiman's. Everything's wrapped up pretty...Moorely.

I won't say the ending made me feel good or bad, but typical of the writer...it was immensely thought-provoking. So I guess in that respect, he succeeded in what he set out to do. All in all, Miracleman was a tremendous experience for me and I'm so glad I decided to...acquire it through the only way possible to me, right now. I highly recommend it to any and all fans of Moore who haven't read it yet.
 
Gothamite said:
I've finished Moore's run and I really can't see why I should bother reading Gaiman's.
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Because he continues it in a perfect way, and never tries to top Moore or anything that happened in that run. Give it a chance.
 
This series is very good. I read it a while back however I never read the conclusion. (I was able to pick up the first 10 issues or so from a cheap back issue bin a while back and figured I'd check them out since they were Alan Moore)

I will have to re-read them and then check out the download for the ending.
 
Dr.Strangefate said:
You found issues of Miracleman in a cheap issue bin???
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Thats like finding the Mona Lisa in a dumpster.

I've finished Moore's run on the title, and am amping myself up for Gaiman's run.

E said:
Because he continues it in a perfect way, and never tries to top Moore or anything that happened in that run. Give it a chance.
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Hmmm...thats geared me up perfectly. Thanks, E!
 
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