Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 3)

So Arishem totally dead? I don't see how a being like him has a variant and might have been the only one in this multiverse.

Imagine if that's how they wrapped up that loose end from Eternals...
 
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I think that was just to show that they're attacking Earth in that universe because Agatha killed him.
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We'll see if that gets answered in the following days. I think the fact that Watcher (MCU) is singular in the multiverse and the Celestials are able to "meet him on his level" so to speak implies that Arishem is singular as well and 100% dead.
 
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Arishem (First Cosmos)

Arishem the Judge is a Celestial who is known for judging planets to determine their fate following successive visits from Celestial Hosts. It normally takes 50 years for Arishem to decide a verdict. Transcending space and time, the Celestials exist in multiple places simultaneously; thus...
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Arishem was one of the Celestials who rebelled against the Aspirants and First Firmament. They shattered the First Cosmos into the Second Cosmos, the first Multiverse, and later created the Omegas as servitors.

The Celestials were split across the Multiverse. Their counterparts are interconnected aspects of themselves and not separate beings. Thus, the Arishem of Earth-616 is one aspect of the true Arishem.
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We're both right. It's a Darkseid/True Darkseid situation. The Arishem who died, however, is separate from the one from Earth-199999 or Earth-616. Think of it like deleting a document on a file. Yes, that document (Arishem/What If...? 3x02) is gone, but the file (true Arishem) is still active.
 
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Celestials entering the same 4th dimensional plane as Watcher at the very end, plus that seemed to imply there is some power vacuum now for the Celestials
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I didn't take that as the other Celestials being in the Nexus with Watcher. I thought it was just the Celestials Ajak warned would be coming pulling up to Earth (the talk of a "sequel" and the credits art having the same Celestials in the same positions but without the Watcher)

I never got the sense that MCU Arishem was intended to be some super-dimensional being on the same level as the Watcher
 
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Arishem (First Cosmos)

Arishem the Judge is a Celestial who is known for judging planets to determine their fate following successive visits from Celestial Hosts. It normally takes 50 years for Arishem to decide a verdict. Transcending space and time, the Celestials exist in multiple places simultaneously; thus...
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We're both right. It's a Darkseid/True Darkseid situation. The Arishem who died, however, is separate from the one from Earth-199999 or Earth-616. Think of it like deleting a document on a file. Yes, that document (Arishem/What If...? 3x02) is gone, but the file (true Arishem) is still active.
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Interesting
 
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Arishem (Earth-199999)

1 appearance(s) of Arishem (Earth-199999) 1 appearance(s) in handbook(s) of Arishem (Earth-199999) 2 mention(s) of Arishem (Earth-199999) 12 image(s) of Arishem (Earth-199999) 1 quotation(s) by or about Arishem (Earth-199999)
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Hmmmm
 
I read some theory not too long ago that X-Men 97 could tell the story of how Earth-199999 "split off" from a branch somewhere adjacent to (comic) Earth-616 to it's own multiverse towards the beginning of the time onwards - involving Immortus' machinations from the original show
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Nathaniel Richards (Immortus) (Earth-6311)

This article covers Nathaniel Richards' incarnation as Immortus. For other incarnations of Richards, see Iron Lad, Kid Immortus, Rama-Tut, the Scarlet Centurion, Kang the Conqueror, and Mister Gryphon. 98 appearance(s) of Nathaniel Richards (Immortus) (Earth-6311) 12 appearance(s) in handbook(s)...
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Maybe that's what Kevin Feige meant by Earth-92131 being "MCU" even though it's clearly not? Telling the backstory of how this "He Who Remains" came about?

(All of this is pre-birth of the MCU, in totality, as in pre-Iron Man 1.)
 
Was doing some digging and found in a, now deleted, Marvel.com page (thx Wayback Machine) that Iron Man/Hulk Heroes United can potentially fit between Avengers and what would become Age of Ultron. https://web.archive.org/web/2016041...k_unite_for_the_holidays_in_new_animated_film IMG_7049.jpeg

Now obviously this isn't canon to the main MCU but it got me curious. Besides LEGO and the GOTG Cartoon what non-Marvel Studios projects can be considered MCU-Adjacent? By that I mean things that treat/are mentioned as having MCU-inspired content/events as part of its continuity
 
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Was doing some digging and found in a, now deleted, Marvel.com page (thx Wayback Machine) that Iron Man/Hulk Heroes United can potentially fit between Avengers and what would become Age of Ultron. https://web.archive.org/web/2016041...k_unite_for_the_holidays_in_new_animated_film View attachment 2998

Now obviously this isn't canon to the main MCU but it got me curious. Besides LEGO and the GOTG Cartoon what non-Marvel Studios projects can be considered MCU-Adjacent? By that I mean things that treat/are mentioned as having MCU-inspired content/events as part of its continuity
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Ultimate Spider-Man/Avengers Assemble/Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H. has some MCU elements, mainly design-wise, but also in the presence of MCU-original characters such as Phil Coulson, Leo Fitz and Jemma Summons. The Avengers Assemble/Guardians of the Galaxy/Spider-Man animated universe, naturally, also shares MCU details, though you've noted this already.
 
I wouldn't say that necessarily. They just take a few things here and there. Well, technically all universes diverge from one another if you go back far enough, but that's not the point.
 
selfishmisery said:
I read some theory not too long ago that X-Men 97 could tell the story of how Earth-199999 "split off" from a branch somewhere adjacent to (comic) Earth-616 to it's own multiverse towards the beginning of the time onwards - involving Immortus' machinations from the original show
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Nathaniel Richards (Immortus) (Earth-6311)

This article covers Nathaniel Richards' incarnation as Immortus. For other incarnations of Richards, see Iron Lad, Kid Immortus, Rama-Tut, the Scarlet Centurion, Kang the Conqueror, and Mister Gryphon. 98 appearance(s) of Nathaniel Richards (Immortus) (Earth-6311) 12 appearance(s) in handbook(s)...
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Maybe that's what Kevin Feige meant by Earth-92131 being "MCU" even though it's clearly not? Telling the backstory of how this "He Who Remains" came about?

(All of this is pre-birth of the MCU, in totality, as in pre-Iron Man 1.)
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Here's my guess on the chronology of this:

Immortus/Bender takes back Limbo -> Avengers: Forever (1998-1999) -> Potential X-Men 97 storyline (Immortus interacts with Earth-199999 in 3000 AD?) -> Multiversal War (Earth-199999 variant, "He Who Remains", wins after weaponizing Alioth) -> MCU created as its own separate cluster and its own TVA -> Loki creates the MCU's multiverse
 
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