Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 3)

There's a Calendar on Lillia's fridge from 1947 which is for November.

There's a Evidence box labeled Nov 12th in Agatha's living room which appears in episode 1 & 4 of the Billy & Agatha Interrogation scene

Herb says to Agatha that she has been acting strangely the past few (2-3 usually) days "like you got bit by the true crime bug" so if we assume that she started acting this way on Nov 12th (Which is also viable as Billy states in Ep 2 that he's 16 which means it has to be past his birthday on November 10th, when the hex was destroyed 3 years ago) a few days before the weekend after billy's bday

this would also line up with Teddy's text to Billy in ep 4 about how tonight with Ralph Bohner was crazy but also it says that was last week if it were sent Sunday night and Billy arrived in Westview very early Monday morning just after midnight.

15th Nov 2026 - Ep 1
16th Nov 2026 - Eps 1-8
17th Nov 2026 - Ep 8 & 9

1693 - Agatha Kills her Coven and her Mother

1750 - Nicholas Scratch is born

1756 - Nicholas Dies and Agatha begins her con of "The Witches Road"

1900s - Agatha Takes a Witch Covens magic

1926 - Jennifer Kale is Bound by Boston Doctor who was given the spell by Agatha

1940s - Agatha Takes a Witch Covens magic

1990s - Agatha Takes a Witch Covens magic

Unsure of When Agatha Acquired the Darkhold as she used it to keep Rio away and I'm not certain if her ability to absorb magic is a skill she learned from it or if she was born with it also her fingers aren't black in any of the flashbacks but this could be an illusion since we don't see her black fingers in most of Wandavision until the end. So not retconing A.O.S and Runaways Darkhold lore is good right… could also be a different copy of the same book in the same universe since DS:MOM confirmed that there are multiple copies.
 
There's a Calendar on Lillia's fridge from 1947 which is for November.

There's a Evidence box labeled Nov 12th in Agatha's living room which appears in episode 1 & 4 of the Billy & Agatha Interrogation scene

Herb says to Agatha that she has been acting strangely the past few (2-3 usually) days "like you got bit by the true crime bug" so if we assume that she started acting this way on Nov 12th (Which is also viable as Billy states in Ep 2 that he's 16 which means it has to be past his birthday on November 10th, when the hex was destroyed 3 years ago) a few days before the weekend after billy's bday

this would also line up with Teddy's text to Billy in ep 4 about how tonight with Ralph Bohner was crazy but also it says that was last week if it were sent Sunday night and Billy arrived in Westview very early Monday morning just after midnight.

15th Nov 2026 - Ep 1
16th Nov 2026 - Eps 1-8
17th Nov 2026 - Ep 8 & 9

1693 - Agatha Kills her Coven and her Mother

1750 - Nicholas Scratch is born

1756 - Nicholas Dies and Agatha begins her con of "The Witches Road"

1900s - Agatha Takes a Witch Covens magic

1926 - Jennifer Kale is Bound by Boston Doctor who was given the spell by Agatha

1940s - Agatha Takes a Witch Covens magic

1990s - Agatha Takes a Witch Covens magic

Unsure of When Agatha Acquired the Darkhold as she used it to keep Rio away and I'm not certain if her ability to absorb magic is a skill she learned from it or if she was born with it also her fingers aren't black in any of the flashbacks but this could be an illusion since we don't see her black fingers in most of Wandavision until the end. So not retconing A.O.S and Runaways Darkhold lore is good right… could also be a different copy of the same book in the same universe since DS:MOM confirmed that there are multiple copies.
I don't think the evidence boxes are actual evidence for the timeline placement. Secret Invasion ends Nov 12th and with The Marvels between it and Agatha, I don't see all three that close together. Honestly, late November makes the most sense with the evidence we have.
 
@Starvel the "Unreleased" list should probably be updated, since it's pretty outdated. Here's a more accurate list I gathered from the latest news:

What If...? 3x01: "????"** (December 22, 2024)
What If...? 3x02: "????"** (December 23, 2024)
What If...? 3x03: "????"** (December 24, 2024)
What If...? 3x04: "????"** (December 25, 2024)
What If...? 3x05: "????"** (December 26, 2024)
What If...? 3x06: "????"** (December 27, 2024)
What If...? 3x07: "????"** (December 28, 2024)
What If...? 3x08: "????"** (December 29, 2024)
What If...? 3x09: "????"** (December 30, 2024)
Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man 1x01: "????"** (January 29, 2025)
Captain America - Brave New World** (February 14, 2025)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x01: "????"** (March 4, 2025)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x02: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x03: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x04: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x05: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x06: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x07: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x08: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x09: "????"** (????, ????)
Thunderbolts*** (May 2, 2025)
Ironheart 1x01: "????"** (June 24, 2025)
Ironheart 1x02: "????"** (????, ????)
Ironheart 1x03: "????"** (????, ????)
Ironheart 1x04: "????"** (????, ????)
Ironheart 1x05: "????"** (????, ????)
Ironheart 1x06: "????"** (????, ????)
The Fantastic Four: First Flight** (July 25, 2025)
Marvel Zombies 1x01: "????" [Earth-89521]** (October ??, 2025)
Marvel Zombies 1x02: "????" [Earth-89521]** (October ??, 2025)
Marvel Zombies 1x03: "????" [Earth-89521]** (October ??, 2025)
Marvel Zombies 1x04: "????" [Earth-89521]** (October ??, 2025)
Wonder Man 1x01: "????"** (December ??, 2025)
Wonder Man 1x02: "????"** (????, ????)
Wonder Man 1x03: "????"** (????, ????)
Wonder Man 1x04: "????"** (????, ????)
Wonder Man 1x05: "????"** (????, ????)
Wonder Man 1x06: "????"** (????, ????)
Wonder Man 1x07: "????"** (????, ????)
Wonder Man 1x08: "????"** (????, ????)
Wonder Man 1x09: "????"** (????, ????)
Wonder Man 1x10: "????"** (????, ????)
Avengers - Doomsday** (May 1, 2026)
Spider-Man 4** (July 26, 2026)
Vision Quest 1x01: "????"** (????, 2026)
Vision Quest 1x02: "????"** (????, 2026)
Vision Quest 1x03: "????"** (????, 2026)
Vision Quest 1x04: "????"** (????, 2026)
Vision Quest 1x05: "????"** (????, 2026)
Vision Quest 1x06: "????"** (????, 2026)
Avengers - Secret Wars** (May 7, 2027)
Blade** (????, ????)
Armor Wars** (????, ????)
Shang-Chi 2** (????, ????)
X-Men** (????, ????)
Untitled Wakanda Series 1x01: "????"** (????, ????)
Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man 2x01: "????"** (????, ????)
Nova 1x01: "????"** (????, ????)
Nova 1x02: "????"** (????, ????)
Nova 1x03: "????"** (????, ????)
Nova 1x04: "????"** (????, ????)
Nova 1x05: "????"** (????, ????)
Nova 1x06: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x01: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x02: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x03: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x04: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x05: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x06: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x07: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x08: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x09: "????"** (????, ????)
 
@Starvel the "Unreleased" list should probably be updated, since it's pretty outdated. Here's a more accurate list I gathered from the latest news:

What If...? 3x01: "????"** (December 22, 2024)
What If...? 3x02: "????"** (December 23, 2024)
What If...? 3x03: "????"** (December 24, 2024)
What If...? 3x04: "????"** (December 25, 2024)
What If...? 3x05: "????"** (December 26, 2024)
What If...? 3x06: "????"** (December 27, 2024)
What If...? 3x07: "????"** (December 28, 2024)
What If...? 3x08: "????"** (December 29, 2024)
What If...? 3x09: "????"** (December 30, 2024)
Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man 1x01: "????"** (January 29, 2025)
Captain America - Brave New World** (February 14, 2025)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x01: "????"** (March 4, 2025)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x02: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x03: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x04: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x05: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x06: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x07: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x08: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 1x09: "????"** (????, ????)
Thunderbolts*** (May 2, 2025)
Ironheart 1x01: "????"** (June 24, 2025)
Ironheart 1x02: "????"** (????, ????)
Ironheart 1x03: "????"** (????, ????)
Ironheart 1x04: "????"** (????, ????)
Ironheart 1x05: "????"** (????, ????)
Ironheart 1x06: "????"** (????, ????)
The Fantastic Four: First Flight** (July 25, 2025)
Marvel Zombies 1x01: "????" [Earth-89521]** (October ??, 2025)
Marvel Zombies 1x02: "????" [Earth-89521]** (October ??, 2025)
Marvel Zombies 1x03: "????" [Earth-89521]** (October ??, 2025)
Marvel Zombies 1x04: "????" [Earth-89521]** (October ??, 2025)
Wonder Man 1x01: "????"** (December ??, 2025)
Wonder Man 1x02: "????"** (????, ????)
Wonder Man 1x03: "????"** (????, ????)
Wonder Man 1x04: "????"** (????, ????)
Wonder Man 1x05: "????"** (????, ????)
Wonder Man 1x06: "????"** (????, ????)
Wonder Man 1x07: "????"** (????, ????)
Wonder Man 1x08: "????"** (????, ????)
Wonder Man 1x09: "????"** (????, ????)
Wonder Man 1x10: "????"** (????, ????)
Avengers - Doomsday** (May 1, 2026)
Spider-Man 4** (July 26, 2026)
Vision Quest 1x01: "????"** (????, 2026)
Vision Quest 1x02: "????"** (????, 2026)
Vision Quest 1x03: "????"** (????, 2026)
Vision Quest 1x04: "????"** (????, 2026)
Vision Quest 1x05: "????"** (????, 2026)
Vision Quest 1x06: "????"** (????, 2026)
Avengers - Secret Wars** (May 7, 2027)
Blade** (????, ????)
Armor Wars** (????, ????)
Shang-Chi 2** (????, ????)
X-Men** (????, ????)
Untitled Wakanda Series 1x01: "????"** (????, ????)
Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man 2x01: "????"** (????, ????)
Nova 1x01: "????"** (????, ????)
Nova 1x02: "????"** (????, ????)
Nova 1x03: "????"** (????, ????)
Nova 1x04: "????"** (????, ????)
Nova 1x05: "????"** (????, ????)
Nova 1x06: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x01: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x02: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x03: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x04: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x05: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x06: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x07: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x08: "????"** (????, ????)
Daredevil - Born Again 2x09: "????"** (????, ????)
Yeah I know I saw that trailer. I cleaned it up a little after Blade was removed from the schedule while I was doing Agatha. I'll update it with all the new release dates announced for the Disney+ shows and stuff once I'm able to sit down and do the last few episodes that released, hopefully sooner than later but all my time disappears recently haha. I'll fix it asap
 
There's a Calendar on Lillia's fridge from 1947 which is for November.

There's a Evidence box labeled Nov 12th in Agatha's living room which appears in episode 1 & 4 of the Billy & Agatha Interrogation scene

Herb says to Agatha that she has been acting strangely the past few (2-3 usually) days "like you got bit by the true crime bug" so if we assume that she started acting this way on Nov 12th (Which is also viable as Billy states in Ep 2 that he's 16 which means it has to be past his birthday on November 10th, when the hex was destroyed 3 years ago) a few days before the weekend after billy's bday

this would also line up with Teddy's text to Billy in ep 4 about how tonight with Ralph Bohner was crazy but also it says that was last week if it were sent Sunday night and Billy arrived in Westview very early Monday morning just after midnight.

15th Nov 2026 - Ep 1
16th Nov 2026 - Eps 1-8
17th Nov 2026 - Ep 8 & 9

1693 - Agatha Kills her Coven and her Mother

1750 - Nicholas Scratch is born

1756 - Nicholas Dies and Agatha begins her con of "The Witches Road"

1900s - Agatha Takes a Witch Covens magic

1926 - Jennifer Kale is Bound by Boston Doctor who was given the spell by Agatha

1940s - Agatha Takes a Witch Covens magic

1990s - Agatha Takes a Witch Covens magic

Unsure of When Agatha Acquired the Darkhold as she used it to keep Rio away and I'm not certain if her ability to absorb magic is a skill she learned from it or if she was born with it also her fingers aren't black in any of the flashbacks but this could be an illusion since we don't see her black fingers in most of Wandavision until the end. So not retconing A.O.S and Runaways Darkhold lore is good right… could also be a different copy of the same book in the same universe since DS:MOM confirmed that there are multiple copies.
I would say the 1990s date should be 1880s per the hat & clothing styles.
I would also agree with Rman that it is more likely late November
 
@Starvel I was various seconds off.
example: the moment where it cuts to Earth-616 on March 14, 2018 I thought was 0:06:56 but it's actually 0:07:13

2018
March 14
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 2 (0:07:13 - 0:11:22)
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 3 (0:11:23 - 0:11:26)


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Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 8 (0:50:10 - 0:51:06) ["Earth-10005"]

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Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:28:30 - 0:28:59) ["Mini-Logan" Universe]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:00 - 0:29:11) [Age of Apocalypse Universe]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:55 - 0:29:59) [Age of Apocalypse Universe]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:12 - 0:29:17) ["Patch Wolverine" Universe]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:53 - 0:29:54) ["Patch Wolverine" Universe]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:30:05 - 0:30:06) ["Patch Wolverine" Universe]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:35 - 0:29:40) ["Crucified Wolverine" Universe]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:30:00 - 0:30:04) ["Crucified Wolverine" Universe]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:41 - 0:29:52) ["Classic Wolverine" Universe]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:30:07 - 0:30:08) ["Classic Wolverine" Universe]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:18 - 0:29:26) ["Henry Cavilline" Universe]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:30:09 - 0:30:28) ["Henry Cavilline" Universe]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:30:29 - 0:32:00) ["Failure Wolverine" Universe]

2024
????

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 3 (0:11:27 - 0:18:01) ["Earth-10005"]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 14 (1:30:24 - 1:30:58) ["Earth-10005"]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 14 (1:31:42 - 1:34:21) ["Earth-10005"]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 15 (1:34:22 - 1:44:15) ["Earth-10005"]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 16 (1:44:16 - 1:52:25) ["Earth-10005"]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 17 (1:52:26 - 1:59:48) ["Earth-10005"]

????
????

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:27 - 0:29:34) ["Old Man Logan" Universe]

????
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Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 1 (0:00:00 - 0:07:12) ["Earth-10005"]

The End of Time
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 7 (0:35:05 - 0:42:39) [The Void]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 8 (0:42:40 - 0:50:09) [The Void]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 8 (0:51:07 - 0:53:08) [The Void]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 9 (0:53:09 - 0:59:10) [The Void]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 10 (0:59:11 - 1:05:52) [The Void]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 11 (1:05:53 - 1:16:33) [The Void]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 12 (1:16:34 - 1:16:37) [The Void]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 12 (1:16:42 - 1:16:45) [The Void]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 12 (1:16:54 - 1:17:00) [The Void]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 12 (1:17:10 - 1:17:11) [The Void]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 12 (1:17:14 - 1:17:15) [The Void]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 12 (1:17:18 - 1:17:19) [The Void]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 12 (1:17:23 - 1:21:31) [The Void]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 13 (1:21:32 - 1:30:23) [The Void]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 14 (1:30:59 - 1:31:41) [The Void]

Temporal Limbo
Time Variance Authority

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 4 (0:18:02 - 0:28:29) [TVA Dimension]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 6 (0:32:01 - 0:35:05) [TVA Dimension]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 12 (1:16:38 - 1:16:41) [TVA Dimension]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 12 (1:16:46 - 1:16:53) [TVA Dimension]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 12 (1:17:01 - 1:17:09) [TVA Dimension]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 12 (1:17:12 - 1:17:13) [TVA Dimension]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 12 (1:17:16 - 1:17:17) [TVA Dimension]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 12 (1:17:20 - 1:17:22) [TVA Dimension]
 
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I have something regarding back to Loki S2 again, the next to last episode specifically.

We know that the Loom blowing up lead to a 'self destruct' mechanism laced within the 4th dimensional time stream by HWR (He Who Remains).
So where everything ended up after that in the next episode was, my understanding, back to the one / original Sacred Timeline. These TVA agents ultimately did not get removed from their lives here and we're seeing it as how history for them was meant to play out...until Loki gathered them all up and as we saw at the end of that episode the "self destruct" of that branch set in killing that whole timeline of Loki bringing them all together.

Further more...that's still one branch. Once again, the "ripples not waves" logic from Agents of SHIELD S7 I still think isn't a misconception and factual within this lore of branching new universes - cause that's essentially what the red line of the TVA's devices were was the WAVE = BRANCHING.

Thoughts?
 
I have something regarding back to Loki S2 again, the next to last episode specifically.

We know that the Loom blowing up lead to a 'self destruct' mechanism laced within the 4th dimensional time stream by HWR (He Who Remains).
So where everything ended up after that in the next episode was, my understanding, back to the one / original Sacred Timeline. These TVA agents ultimately did not get removed from their lives here and we're seeing it as how history for them was meant to play out...until Loki gathered them all up and as we saw at the end of that episode the "self destruct" of that branch set in killing that whole timeline of Loki bringing them all together.

Further more...that's still one branch. Once again, the "ripples not waves" logic from Agents of SHIELD S7 I still think isn't a misconception and factual within this lore of branching new universes - cause that's essentially what the red line of the TVA's devices were was the WAVE = BRANCHING.

Thoughts?
so basically you're saying all the branches seen in loki s2e5-6 are one branch that essentially causes itself to never have existed by the end of the show?
 
so basically you're saying all the branches seen in loki s2e5-6 are one branch that essentially causes itself to never have existed by the end of the show?
When you remove my evidence and context to make that claim, it's impossible really respond to it. That's even less of an over-simplification….
 
Alright the timeline is finally caught up to the end of Agatha All Along! Took me a good few hours there thanks to episode 7 alone. That was a helluva time to edit in, Lilia and her time slipping bullshit every couple seconds gave my flashbacks to Loki S02 lol. For the Agatha killing witches montage in the finale I used the placements from FruityWho50. For Lilia's flashbacks to Sicily as a child I used 15??, I did a little research and learned there were many Witch Trials from around 1580-1650 so I used that as as estimate for when she was with her coven. I edited the new release dates in there as well, some guess-timation on how the episodes will release exactly but that's a problem for future Starvel, that guy can handle it haha. If anyone notices any errors then keep that shit to yourselves lol jk let me know and I'll fix it.
 
Alright the timeline is finally caught up to the end of Agatha All Along! Took me a good few hours there thanks to episode 7 alone. That was a helluva time to edit in, Lilia and her time slipping bullshit every couple seconds gave my flashbacks to Loki S02 lol. For the Agatha killing witches montage in the finale I used the placements from FruityWho50. For Lilia's flashbacks to Sicily as a child I used 15??, I did a little research and learned there were many Witch Trials from around 1580-1650 so I used that as as estimate for when she was with her coven. I edited the new release dates in there as well, some guess-timation on how the episodes will release exactly but that's a problem for future Starvel, that guy can handle it haha. If anyone notices any errors then keep that shit to yourselves lol jk let me know and I'll fix it.
I agree with the time placement, that absolutely killed me lolll.

Patti LuPone said in an interview that her character Lilia is a 450 year old witch (which can be taken as an estimate or an exact age) would put her birth at ~1576 at the latest. All the witches stated that their powers first came when they were 13 in one of the earlier episodes, and dialogue in 1x07 states that the flashbacks show Lilias first lesson, which I would assume start the same year she got her powers, meaning that it would be 1589 @13 years old at the latest. Starting in the 1550s through the 1600s Scarlet Fever was rampant in Italy, especially in Sicily (where a couple of doctors were researching and "discovering" the fever in the 1550s-1590s) which would line up with Lilias family dying (from "fever") soon after we see her first trial (which resulted in her never finishing her training and being a solo-coven from an "early age"). If you wanted a closer guestimate lol
 
I agree with the time placement, that absolutely killed me lolll.

Patti LuPone said in an interview that her character Lilia is a 450 year old witch (which can be taken as an estimate or an exact age) would put her birth at ~1576 at the latest. All the witches stated that their powers first came when they were 13 in one of the earlier episodes, and dialogue in 1x07 states that the flashbacks show Lilias first lesson, which I would assume start the same year she got her powers, meaning that it would be 1589 @13 years old at the latest. Starting in the 1550s through the 1600s Scarlet Fever was rampant in Italy, especially in Sicily (where a couple of doctors were researching and "discovering" the fever in the 1550s-1590s) which would line up with Lilias family dying (from "fever") soon after we see her first trial (which resulted in her never finishing her training and being a solo-coven from an "early age"). If you wanted a closer guestimate lol
Well damn! I think that all lines up nicely and if no one objects to a 1589 placement I can make that change tomorrow!
 
When you remove my evidence and context to make that claim, it's impossible really respond to it. That's even less of an over-simplification….
i think i understand what you mean really its just for my own sake lol, i used to think i was good at understanding time travel "linearality" in media but loki has really thrown a wrench into my understanding overall haha
 

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