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So far we just have a Charles Xavier who just so happens to be the same actor, but we have no idea if he's the same Charles from either of the two X-Men timelines.
Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 2)
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To each his own. I will only accept it if it's made explicitly clear it's the same Charles.
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Easy.
When you get to 1973, watch the entire original timeline. You're gonna have to worry about Deadpool pretty soon, trust me, so we'll get there.
Also, maybe after Loki. It depends how you look at things. Technically they happened before and after the MCU because the multiverse was both there and not there throughout the entire MCU.
Loki 1x01-1x06
X-Men: First Class
X-Men
X2: X-Men United
X-Men: The Last Stand
The Wolverine: Unleashed Extended Edition
X-Men: Days of Future Past
X-Men: Apocalypse
X-Men: Dark Phoenix
Spider-Man
Spider-Man 2.1
Spider-Man 3
The Amazing Spider-Man
The Amazing Spider-Man 2
Deadpool
Deadpool 2: Super Duper Cut
The New Mutants
(2023-2029 MCU content)
Logan
I might make a viewing order or something at some point. When we get there, that is...
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The way I see it:
Connected
Earth-10005 - X-Men Cinematic Universe (Original)
Earth-17315 - X-Men Cinematic Universe (Revised)
Earth-26320 - Blade Cinematic Universe
Earth-48627 - The Punisher (2004)
Earth-96283 - Spider-Man Trilogy
Earth-120703 The Amazing Spider-Man Duology
Earth-121347 - Ghost Rider Duology
Earth-121698 - Fantastic Four Duology
Earth-199999 - Marvel Cinematic Universe
Earth-400083 - Hulk (2003)
Earth-701306 - Daredevil/Elektra Duology
Earth-???? - Punisher: War Zone
Earth-???? - Fant4stic
Earth-???? - Legion
Earth-???? - Sony's Spider-Man Universe
Not connected (but part of the larger Multiverse)
Earth-5556 - Doctor Who
Earth-5724 - Nick Fury: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Earth-22249 - Doctor Strange (1978)
Earth-51778 - Supaidāman
Earth-57780 - Spidey Super Stories
Earth-58460 - Man-Thing
Earth-58627 - The Punisher (1989)
Earth-59470 - Howard the Duck
Earth-94000 - Fantastic Four (1994)
Earth-400005 - The Incredible Hulk (1977)
Earth-600001 - Captain America (1944)
Earth-600043 - Captain America (1979) Duology
Earth-700029 - Generation X
Earth-704509 - Mutant X
Earth-730911 - Spider-Man (1977)
Earth-818793 - Evil Dead Trilogy
Earth-967064 - Captain America (1990)
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Doctor Who??
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Yep. He's crossed over with Earth-616. There was a Marvel comic series set in the Whoniverse. Marvel designated that reality Earth-5556.
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Let me guess, Star Wars is next lmao
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Earth-5556
310 appearance(s) of Earth-5556 445 image(s) of Earth-5556 1 characters that originate from Earth-5556 Earth-5556 on the Tardis Wiki
Earth-120185
32 appearance(s) of Earth-120185 1 mention(s) of Earth-120185 1 mention(s) in handbook(s) of Earth-120185 62 image(s) of Earth-120185 4 characters that originate from Earth-120185 1 teams that originate from Earth-120185 Joepedia - The G.I. Joe Wiki TFWiki.net: the Transformers Wiki
Hell, try this one.
Godzilla (Earth-616)
29 appearance(s) of Godzilla (Earth-616) 12 minor appearance(s) of Godzilla (Earth-616) 55 mention(s) of Godzilla (Earth-616) 7 mention(s) in handbook(s) of Godzilla (Earth-616) 51 image(s) of Godzilla (Earth-616) 6 victim(s) killed by Godzilla (Earth-616) Godzilla at the Appendix to the...
Don't forget the universe where characters from Marvel, DC, Transformers and... Attack on Titan exist...
Earth-7642
58 appearance(s) of Earth-7642 1 minor appearance(s) of Earth-7642 1 mention(s) in handbook(s) of Earth-7642 894 image(s) of Earth-7642 262 characters that originate from Earth-7642 19 teams that originate from Earth-7642 56 organizations that originate from Earth-7642 76 locations that...
I also like to think that the Batman and Superman crossovers with the Alien and Predator franchises is canon to Alien Universe for fun, due to the obscurity of it.
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Earth-5556
310 appearance(s) of Earth-5556 445 image(s) of Earth-5556 1 characters that originate from Earth-5556 Earth-5556 on the Tardis Wikimarvel.fandom.com
Earth-120185
32 appearance(s) of Earth-120185 1 mention(s) of Earth-120185 1 mention(s) in handbook(s) of Earth-120185 62 image(s) of Earth-120185 4 characters that originate from Earth-120185 1 teams that originate from Earth-120185 Joepedia - The G.I. Joe Wiki TFWiki.net: the Transformers Wiki
Hell, try this one.
Godzilla (Earth-616)
29 appearance(s) of Godzilla (Earth-616) 12 minor appearance(s) of Godzilla (Earth-616) 55 mention(s) of Godzilla (Earth-616) 7 mention(s) in handbook(s) of Godzilla (Earth-616) 51 image(s) of Godzilla (Earth-616) 6 victim(s) killed by Godzilla (Earth-616) Godzilla at the Appendix to the...
Don't forget the universe where characters from Marvel, DC, Transformers and... Attack on Titan exist...
Earth-7642
58 appearance(s) of Earth-7642 1 minor appearance(s) of Earth-7642 1 mention(s) in handbook(s) of Earth-7642 894 image(s) of Earth-7642 262 characters that originate from Earth-7642 19 teams that originate from Earth-7642 56 organizations that originate from Earth-7642 76 locations that...
I also like to think that the Batman and Superman crossovers with the Alien and Predator franchises is canon to Alien Universe for fun, due to the obscurity of it.
Earth-79203
6 image(s) of Earth-79203 Super Sentai's world and Kamen Rider's world
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I recall reading somewhere that one of the Doctor Who writers said they are aware of that and they consider that a "multiversal duplicate"; NOT the same continuity, universe or multiverse.Earth-5556
310 appearance(s) of Earth-5556 445 image(s) of Earth-5556 1 characters that originate from Earth-5556 Earth-5556 on the Tardis WikiEarth-120185
32 appearance(s) of Earth-120185 1 mention(s) of Earth-120185 1 mention(s) in handbook(s) of Earth-120185 62 image(s) of Earth-120185 4 characters that originate from Earth-120185 1 teams that originate from Earth-120185 Joepedia - The G.I. Joe Wiki TFWiki.net: the Transformers Wiki
Hell, try this one.
Godzilla (Earth-616)
29 appearance(s) of Godzilla (Earth-616) 12 minor appearance(s) of Godzilla (Earth-616) 55 mention(s) of Godzilla (Earth-616) 7 mention(s) in handbook(s) of Godzilla (Earth-616) 51 image(s) of Godzilla (Earth-616) 6 victim(s) killed by Godzilla (Earth-616) Godzilla at the Appendix to the...
Don't forget the universe where characters from Marvel, DC, Transformers and... Attack on Titan exist...
Earth-7642
58 appearance(s) of Earth-7642 1 minor appearance(s) of Earth-7642 1 mention(s) in handbook(s) of Earth-7642 894 image(s) of Earth-7642 262 characters that originate from Earth-7642 19 teams that originate from Earth-7642 56 organizations that originate from Earth-7642 76 locations that...
I also like to think that the Batman and Superman crossovers with the Alien and Predator franchises is canon to Alien Universe for fun, due to the obscurity of it.
The same applies for Transformers and Ghostbusters I'd guess.
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Well, that's definitely the version from The Real Ghostbusters UK comics and that's definitely that specific version of Transformers, because that's what the Appendix states (even though there was 0 crossover with Ghostbusters...). At the very least, the Marvel Doctor Who comics seem to be canonical. I'd imagine the show is somewhat canonical, even if it's not the exact same version from said show.
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I still like to think of Legion as a prior timeline (but still a now-pruned branch) to the MCU; unless they cast an actor for E-199999's Professor X that's a different ethnicity or looks nothing like Harry Lloyd.
Based on what we learned about the TVA in Loki, Switch's dad is definitely a TVA suit, among other things that make me think Marvel Studios has that show in mind for future retroactive plans.
^ Found this video that makes good connections as to what I mean.
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Legion basically reboots itself at the end, so there's really no issues at all.
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As much as I agree with this, it is also how I feel about Murdock and Kingpin. YES, I know that I'm in the minority here, but personally there wasn't enough evidence in either case to make a definitive connection for me. Now if Marvel produces a legit Season 4 that references both the Netflix show and the recent appearances...I will certainly reconsider.
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Obviously it can't be the Xavier from Earth-10005 because he got atomized by Sentinels. He wouldn't be from the revised timeline (E-17315) either based on the now seemingly accurate MoM leak that
Wanda kills the Illuminati Xavier
So would have to be an Xavier from a branch like Deadpool's dead Vanessa timeline or the timeline where Weapon XI is shot and killed by Wade in 1979.
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Maybe, sounds credible
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If that is too confusing, I made a graph visualizing how the branches work; based on the earliest points of divergence (i.e. the birth of Apocalypse 5000 years ago)
Earth-10005 and its branches; ignore the rest.
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Yep, I think that's likely the case. If it were Earth-18315, there's also a greater change to his history (diverges from Original Timeline's 1979 during X-Men Origins: Wolverine) so that could explain why this particular version was recruited by the Illuminati. It also allows him to work with them for an extensive time. This also works with if the Illuminati is a multiversal team or not, because diverging everything from 1979 allows for heroes such as Black Bolt (MCU variant), Reed Richards, Balder Odinson, Clea, Maria Rambeau Captain Marvel and Mordo (Sorcerer Supreme) to emerge, as they seemingly didn't exist during the Fox series. In this case, you can assume Captain Carter's What If stuff happened on Earth-18315 (and thus, Fox X-Men as a whole), which is... weird. So probably multiversal team, but if not...
Although, about that first thing:
He previously died in X-Men: The Last Stand and came back in the body of his brain dead twin. Technically speaking, he could do the exact same thing here since in the revised timeline, he never transfered his consciousness in the first place. Thus, Xavier "dies", transfers his consciousness and then experiences the events of Logan in his twin's body.
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Or, more simply put, it's the same actor for fan-service but a completely new Charles...
