Joe Kalicki
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Re: Live Free Or Die Hard
I'm pretty sure there's not much that could be clasisfied as "down-to-Earth" in Die Hard.
I'm pretty sure there's not much that could be clasisfied as "down-to-Earth" in Die Hard.
Live Free Or Die Hard (SPOILERS!)
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How do you mean? All the action is (for the most part) physical possible to happen in real life. The most "out there" action in the first three would be John jumping off the building as the roof explode, John fighting on the wing of a plane, and John surfing on a truck. All of which is more or less possible. John driving a cut that gets chopped in half by a jet machine gun, than while the Highway gets destroyed he jumps off as it crashes. And that only one out many "out there" scenes
How do you mean? All the action is (for the most part) physical possible to happen in real life. The most "out there" action in the first three would be John jumping off the building as the roof explode, John fighting on the wing of a plane, and John surfing on a truck. All of which is more or less possible. John driving a cut that gets chopped in half by a jet machine gun, than while the Highway gets destroyed he jumps off as it crashes. And that only one out many "out there" scenes
Joe Kalicki
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I think it's more likely that he could throw a truck into an airplane than walk over broken glass. So take my opinion for what it's worth.
But seriously, the jumping from th building with the fire hose thing? That is so not even within the realm of "realistic."
I think it's more likely that he could throw a truck into an airplane than walk over broken glass. So take my opinion for what it's worth.
But seriously, the jumping from th building with the fire hose thing? That is so not even within the realm of "realistic."
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Actually I wasnt argueing him driving a car into a helocopter, but the scene I describe. You know him driving a truck while the entire top half is cut off by machine gun fire, the highway breaking up, him sliding through the truck and landing on a jet, which as I recall jets dont hover, as the piliot eject, than jum ping through to giant piece of concrete as the jet explodes and you think that is more out there than a guy walking on broken glass? The walking on glass was definitely on of the most realistic thing in that movie, cause the next shot with him was him crawling into a bathroom with his feet smearing blood all over the place. I don't get how that is less plaussible to actually happen than say, being barely hit by a flying car, and was saved because two other cars stops in the right spot simultainously. I really can't see how you find walking a broken glass unrealistic. And jumping from a building using a fire hose is within the realm of realistic. Is it possible? Yes. Practical? Not really. In fact those two things are more realistic than anything I've seen in the theater recently.
Actually I wasnt argueing him driving a car into a helocopter, but the scene I describe. You know him driving a truck while the entire top half is cut off by machine gun fire, the highway breaking up, him sliding through the truck and landing on a jet, which as I recall jets dont hover, as the piliot eject, than jum ping through to giant piece of concrete as the jet explodes and you think that is more out there than a guy walking on broken glass? The walking on glass was definitely on of the most realistic thing in that movie, cause the next shot with him was him crawling into a bathroom with his feet smearing blood all over the place. I don't get how that is less plaussible to actually happen than say, being barely hit by a flying car, and was saved because two other cars stops in the right spot simultainously. I really can't see how you find walking a broken glass unrealistic. And jumping from a building using a fire hose is within the realm of realistic. Is it possible? Yes. Practical? Not really. In fact those two things are more realistic than anything I've seen in the theater recently.
Joe Kalicki
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I don't know what scene you're talking about, actally, but it sounds AWESOME!
Jets have been able to hover for a decade now, at least.
I don't know what scene you're talking about, actally, but it sounds AWESOME!
Jets have been able to hover for a decade now, at least.
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Re: Live Free Or Die Hard
I don't think it's too over the top. Die Hard 2 ends with him lighting a trail of jet fuel which goes all the way to the plane and explodes.
I'm fine with over the top, but I do agree that something feels "off" about this movie. It's the little things to me. I can take the over the top, but what's one thing that EVERYONE remembers from Die Hard 1?
Walking on glass. The effects cost is low but it's one of the toughest things you've ever seen in a movie. There's no explosions, just one man walking on fake glass covered in fake blood.
Jets shooting, helicopters exploding...meh.
I don't think it's too over the top. Die Hard 2 ends with him lighting a trail of jet fuel which goes all the way to the plane and explodes.
I'm fine with over the top, but I do agree that something feels "off" about this movie. It's the little things to me. I can take the over the top, but what's one thing that EVERYONE remembers from Die Hard 1?
Walking on glass. The effects cost is low but it's one of the toughest things you've ever seen in a movie. There's no explosions, just one man walking on fake glass covered in fake blood.
Jets shooting, helicopters exploding...meh.
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Re: Live Free Or Die Hard
Exactly, everything in the previous movie may be a little much but is not too far outside the realm of possiblity. All the action is, for the most part, something a cop from New York maybe be able to do or actually come across. This movie is completely different from what Die Hard should be. It should be grounded and gritty, not a completely unrealistic cgi action sequences. Not saying those sequences are bad, but its not what Die Hard is about.
Its like making Indinana Jones fighting a giant Azetec stone statue. That may work in a Tomb Raider sense but its not the style Indiana movies should have. There may be some unrealistic mystical aspects but over all the action is something a person can actually do.
It was awesome, but the fact that it was a Die Hard movie pissed me off too much to enjoy it. Also I've never seen actual footage of a jet hovering
Exactly, everything in the previous movie may be a little much but is not too far outside the realm of possiblity. All the action is, for the most part, something a cop from New York maybe be able to do or actually come across. This movie is completely different from what Die Hard should be. It should be grounded and gritty, not a completely unrealistic cgi action sequences. Not saying those sequences are bad, but its not what Die Hard is about.
Its like making Indinana Jones fighting a giant Azetec stone statue. That may work in a Tomb Raider sense but its not the style Indiana movies should have. There may be some unrealistic mystical aspects but over all the action is something a person can actually do.
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Re: Live Free Or Die Hard
I wonder if this or Transformers has more explosions.
I wonder if this or Transformers has more explosions.
Joe Kalicki
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Well, in Transformers there are not only exploding vehicles, but all the characters can also explode.
John McClane can just bleed.
Well, in Transformers there are not only exploding vehicles, but all the characters can also explode.
John McClane can just bleed.
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Just thought I'd throw this out there, in case anyone didn't already know-- Live Free or Die Hard is officially rated PG-13 for "intense sequences of violence and action, language, and a brief sexual situation." The fact that they didn't emphasize the language more leads me to believe we won't even get McClane's trademark line (yippie-kai-ye etc.(I have absolutely no idea how to spell that!)). Actually, can you even say mother****er in a PG-13 movie? Somehow, I doubt it.
On a side note, why is this in the TV section? Last time I checked, it was a movie.
Just thought I'd throw this out there, in case anyone didn't already know-- Live Free or Die Hard is officially rated PG-13 for "intense sequences of violence and action, language, and a brief sexual situation." The fact that they didn't emphasize the language more leads me to believe we won't even get McClane's trademark line (yippie-kai-ye etc.(I have absolutely no idea how to spell that!)). Actually, can you even say mother****er in a PG-13 movie? Somehow, I doubt it.
On a side note, why is this in the TV section? Last time I checked, it was a movie.
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If he says it once, yes, he can say it and get away with it in a PG-13 film. I've seen it done before, but never more than once or twice.
Hellsbuttmonkey
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**** is only allowed to be used in PG-13 films as long as its only used 1-3 times (normally, but there are exceptions), and never in a sexual manner, only as an expletive, so mother****er would not be allowed. '**** this', '**** you' etc would be allowed, but 'i want to **** you' wouldn't be.
**** is only allowed to be used in PG-13 films as long as its only used 1-3 times (normally, but there are exceptions), and never in a sexual manner, only as an expletive, so mother****er would not be allowed. '**** this', '**** you' etc would be allowed, but 'i want to **** you' wouldn't be.
Ice
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It does depend, but I have seen it done in some films. Mostly briefly, but it's happened.
Hellsbuttmonkey
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I know they are not allowed to use mother****er in a PG13, because it is used in a sexual manner, but its ok to throw in 15 uses of the word **** just because they said '**** you' a lot.
What will the audience find different in "**** you" to "lets ****"? Its still the same word! Makes no ****ing sense to me....
I know they are not allowed to use mother****er in a PG13, because it is used in a sexual manner, but its ok to throw in 15 uses of the word **** just because they said '**** you' a lot.
What will the audience find different in "**** you" to "lets ****"? Its still the same word! Makes no ****ing sense to me....
Ice
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Saw it today.
AWESOME.
I think Transformers will have more explosions (that's for your Proj!
), but I highly enjoyed this movie. Now, as for McClane's saying, he actually said his line, BUT the "er" was not heard because it happened during a gunshot. You can clearly hear him say "****", just not with the 'er' at the end.
And as for that gunshot....HOLY DAMN! McClane actually shot himself through the right of his chest to kill Gabriel (the main bad guy). That was so f*ing crazy.
This movie was all excellence. Especially with Kevin Smith. Cool little comedy role he had. "You bring a cop to my comand center?!"
"Hahaha! Comand center? You live in a basement!"
And it's crazy since yesterday I saw Die Hard: With a Vengeance on some movie channel (which of course was done for the release of this one). 12 years later for the sequel, but it was well worth it.
Justin Long did an excellent job and was highly believable. The way he acted was spot on with anyone who could be in a situation where they're scared ****less.
5/5
Saw it today.
AWESOME.
I think Transformers will have more explosions (that's for your Proj!
), but I highly enjoyed this movie. Now, as for McClane's saying, he actually said his line, BUT the "er" was not heard because it happened during a gunshot. You can clearly hear him say "****", just not with the 'er' at the end.And as for that gunshot....HOLY DAMN! McClane actually shot himself through the right of his chest to kill Gabriel (the main bad guy). That was so f*ing crazy.
This movie was all excellence. Especially with Kevin Smith. Cool little comedy role he had. "You bring a cop to my comand center?!"
"Hahaha! Comand center? You live in a basement!"
And it's crazy since yesterday I saw Die Hard: With a Vengeance on some movie channel (which of course was done for the release of this one). 12 years later for the sequel, but it was well worth it.
Justin Long did an excellent job and was highly believable. The way he acted was spot on with anyone who could be in a situation where they're scared ****less.
5/5
Sacred&Profane
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Imagine: You're looking at adult material. Don't worry, no one is accusing you of inappropriate conduct; this is an analogy. This is Live Free or Die Hard, in a nutshell. As any seasoned fan of adult content is well aware, many forums for such entertainment often feature thumbnail previews of a variety of pornographic items. Also, as any fan knows, these can be deceiving. Now, imagine clicking on one of these thumbnails; this happens to be a well-faked picture of Emma Watson (Hermione Granger) riding a man. "Oh ****, I've waited to see this for AGES," you think. Yet, when the photo maximizes, it hits you: sinstead of a sweet, sweet snatch, Ms. Granger has a pink, pulsating penis. This is Live Free or Die Hard.
The thing of it is, without the wrong bits, the picture would have been wonderful. And yet, it DOES have the bits. In the case of Live Free or Die Hard, the 'bits' including choppy editing and horrible voice-overs to cover the swearing performed by the cast. This was a movie that should have been R, but was bumped to PG-13 by execs who don't give a crap about making a worthwhile film.
Maybe it'll be worth watching on DVD. Then again, I can't get over the absolutely boring method of killing the main villian, who was in himself a boring, 'meh' character.
meh.
The thing of it is, without the wrong bits, the picture would have been wonderful. And yet, it DOES have the bits. In the case of Live Free or Die Hard, the 'bits' including choppy editing and horrible voice-overs to cover the swearing performed by the cast. This was a movie that should have been R, but was bumped to PG-13 by execs who don't give a crap about making a worthwhile film.
Maybe it'll be worth watching on DVD. Then again, I can't get over the absolutely boring method of killing the main villian, who was in himself a boring, 'meh' character.
meh.
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That's a good summary.
I might download this.
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That's a good summary.
I might download this.
Thanks.
Considering the plot, pirating this film is a bit ironic.
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