Fantastic Four Reboot

If I had to guess I'd wager the containment suits are something like the costumes from the comics, that allow them to contain and focus their powers (since presumably they'll obtain the powers in the film and not be experienced in doing so by themselves).

My advice is to stop jumping to conclusions and resorting to the old "sky is falling" knee jerk reaction at every bit of news released about the film. It very well may suck, not saying otherwise. Only suggesting people wait for at least a trailer (or preferably actually seeing the film) before resorting to the negativity. While I agree that a lot of what I've heard about it doesn't seem like a good idea, I also realize individual parts don't make the whole. Relax, wait until we see a trailer at the very least.
 
DIrishB said:
If I had to guess I'd wager the containment suits are something like the costumes from the comics, that allow them to contain and focus their powers (since presumably they'll obtain the powers in the film and not be experienced in doing so by themselves).
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My first thought when I read that was suits made of unstable molecules, which was explored pretty brilliantly by Mark Waid on his FF run.
 
Doctor Doom being a blogger is the funniest thing ever.
 
I just can't believe how far from the source material they are going from. I'm not a huge FF fan but c'mon. They need to embrace the source material and maybe Fox well finally have a decent FF movie.
 
io9 has a pretty good summary:

Toby Kebbell recently revealed what the new backstory is for Doctor Doom in the Fantastic Four reboot. And it's so bad, guys. It's really, really bad. Spoilers beyond this point.

Speaking with Collider, Kebbell revealed:

He's Victor Domashev, not Victor Von Doom in our story. And I'm sure I'll be sent to jail for telling you that. The Doom in ours—I'm a programmer. Very anti-social programmer. And on blogging sites I'm "Doom".

Ugh. So much ugh. One of the best things about Doctor Doom is that he's literally Victor von Doom. It's fictional nominative determinism at its absolute best.

But it's not good enough for the new, gritty and realistic reboot:

Yeah, it was cool man. Josh [Trank], the whole deal, the lo-fi way he did it, the ultra-real. It was just nice to do that. It was nice to be feeling like we had to come to terms with what was given by this incident.

"The whole deal" is that we have an evil programmer — no bets that he's a hacker, I think it's clear that's a given — who blogs? Or is a commenter on blogs? And has chosen Doom as his Internet handle. And we're going to lose him as the ruler of Latveria, too, I'm guessing.

This is the worst.
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I'd love to see the focus groups or market research that suggested this would be a good idea.
 
I tried to defend this movie early on... but now that Doom is an angry, blogging, hacker, I'm done trying to defend it. Apparently Fox still haven't rid themselves of the habit to completely ruin franchises with bone headed decisions made in the script or in rewrites.
 
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This is more in line with "A film inspired by Marvel's Fantastic Four" than an adaptation of the comic group than anything else. And a very terribly sounding one at that.
 
My buddy theorized that Disney hired Trank for Star Wars to sabotage this film. I told him Fox is just that dumb but what if...?
 
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wyokid said:
My buddy theorized that Disney hired Trank for Star Wars to sabotage this film. I told him Fox is just that dumb but what if...?
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I don't get the impression that they need to sabotage it...

So a friend of mine works in the film industry and while I usually take what he says with a grain of salt...on this one I dunno. He claims that Foxx doesn't want to release this. Given the complete lack of promotion and now this... I think I buy it. Who wants to bet that this gets dumped somewhere?
 
Friday said:
I don't get the impression that they need to sabotage it...

So a friend of mine works in the film industry and while I usually take what he says with a grain of salt...on this one I dunno. He claims that Foxx doesn't want to release this. Given the complete lack of promotion and now this... I think I buy it. Who wants to bet that this gets dumped somewhere?
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If they don't, when would the rights go back to Marvel?
 
DIrishB said:
I tried to defend this movie early on... but now that Doom is an angry, blogging, hacker, I'm done trying to defend it. Apparently Fox still haven't rid themselves of the habit to completely ruin franchises with bone headed decisions made in the script or in rewrites.
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io9 has a good article on this today. (NSFW language)

It… it doesn't look good. I can explain why Fox made this decision, although it's not going to make you feel any better.

Fox makes the first Fantastic Four movie; it does okay, but fans everywhere ***** about it not being comics accurate enough. So Fox makes the second FF movie, thinking they're appeasing comics fans by adding Silver Surfer and Galactus, although they turn Galactus into a cloud so mass audiences aren't turned off. The movie bombs, and they don't see the fact that it sucks, they only see that they tried to appease nerds and the movie failed. Obviously, that's the problem, they think.

Then Josh Trank comes around and makes a small, found-footage superhero movie called Chronicle; even though the budget is small, it's super-popular and makes a lot of money. Fox sees this and says: "This works. People like this. If we do Fantastic Four like this, people will like it."

Fox hires Trank to make a "grounded", "lo-fi" version of the Fantastic Four, never once considering if perhaps this take is actually suitable for the characters and the franchise. (Hint: It's not.) Obviously, Doctor Doom is the FF's main foe, but Doom is just too comic book-y for the more realistic movie Fox is supremely confident the public wants. Thus we get Doom, the angry blogger.

I'm sure some of you are thinking "But Fox makes the X-Men movies. The X-Movies are pretty comics accurate and they're good movies and they make a lot of money! Why don't they learn from that?"

The answer is because that's not how a Hollywood executive's brain works. Traditional movie executives can't associate things. While you or I can watch other superhero movies and extrapolate what the public enjoys based on a wide variety of data, execs can only assess one thing at a time, take one lesson from it, and never, ever build upon that knowledge because as soon as they "learn" something new, the old memory is lost forever. How the hell are they going to learn from Marvel Studios' successes when they can't even apply the **** they should have learned making the X-Men movies to their other superhero franchise? They're not, and they couldn't if they wanted to.
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Captain Canuck said:
If they don't, when would the rights go back to Marvel?
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If it's like most other film licensing contracts, the rights wouldn't revert back to Marvel for seven years after filming wrapped. So assuming the movie bombs and doesn't get a sequel, it would be probably around mid to late 2021 when the rights would revert back to Marvel, assuming Fox doesn't try to make a sequel or reboot it yet again before late 2021. If they do that gives them another 7 year window as long as production was completed on anything filmed. Hence this reboot. Fantastic Four 2 came out in 2007. To retain the FF rights, Fox had to get a new FF film into production fast, which they did with pre-production in late 2013 and early 2014, and filming that wrapped a couple months ago.

So yeah, late 2021 at the earliest, more likely 2023 or 2024 if Fox does a sequel (which depends entirely on how this movie fares), but recent indicators seem to be painting it as a stinker.

As long as production/plans for a new FF movie haven't started by that time, and filming started by a specific deadline established by the time lengths in the contract, Marvel will get the FF rights back sometime in the next 10 years.
 
DIrishB said:
If it's like most other film licensing contracts, the rights wouldn't revert back to Marvel for seven years after filming wrapped. So assuming the movie bombs and doesn't get a sequel, it would be probably around mid to late 2021 when the rights would revert back to Marvel, assuming Fox doesn't try to make a sequel or reboot it yet again before late 2021. If they do that gives them another 7 year window as long as production was completed on anything filmed. Hence this reboot. Fantastic Four 2 came out in 2007. To retain the FF rights, Fox had to get a new FF film into production fast, which they did with pre-production in late 2013 and early 2014, and filming that wrapped a couple months ago.

So yeah, late 2021 at the earliest, more likely 2023 or 2024 if Fox does a sequel (which depends entirely on how this movie fares), but recent indicators seem to be painting it as a stinker.

As long as production/plans for a new FF movie haven't started by that time, and filming started by a specific deadline established by the time lengths in the contract, Marvel will get the FF rights back sometime in the next 10 years.
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Even if the movie doesn't get released? They keep the rights just by virtue of having worked on the film?
 
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