Fantastic Four by Jonathan Hickman (#570-611) (spoilers)

[Bass]

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There are posters with one member absent for all of them, Bass.

You fool.

(The rest of your post is accurate though).

That is exactly why you need to stop reading into the hype or not read the hype at all. It's what always kills the interest for people. That's also why I never bother with getting myself mixed with the hype. The important thing is the story and that's all I need to worry about.

It's why I do. I try to avoid them. But, dammit, look at your posts! I thought it was going to talk about Hickman's writing process. Diagrams?! I had to read it.

In other words: Like most things, it's all your fault, Ice. All. Your. Fault.

 

[Ice]

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It's why I do. I try to avoid them. But, dammit, look at your posts! I thought it was going to talk about Hickman's writing process. Diagrams?! I had to read it.

In other words: Like most things, it's all your fault, Ice. All. Your. Fault.

My job here is done.

 

[ProjectX2]

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Diagrams?!

 

[Zombipanda]

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Diagrams!?!?!?

Do we know that a member of the FF is dying? I kind of figured that, given how Hickman's run has been building, Ben is going to get cured.

 

[Ice]

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Diagrams!?!?!?

Do we know that a member of the FF is dying? I kind of figured that, given how Hickman's run has been building, Ben is going to get cured.

So not just temp. like Valeria said? Where he can only be human for one week a year, and that week will always be random.

 

[Zombipanda]

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So not just temp. like Valeria said? Where he can only be human for one week a year, and that week will always be random.

Clearly I'm not caught up on the series as I should be!

 

[ultimatedjf]

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Future Franklin and Val are at the end of time and have decided to rewrite history so that Reed Richards has a father and fix stuff and in order to do that, they had to die.

Obviously, it will all go pear-shaped.

But our Reed Richards did have a father, Nathaniel. Do you mean because he was never around for him?

 

[E]

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But our Reed Richards did have a father, Nathaniel. Do you mean because he was never around for him?

Yeah, I don't get this either. Nathaniel played a significant role in the book around the time of Tom DeFalco's run, which was so bad that the world almost ended. Our world. The real world. Most of you are too young to remember but it's true.

And FWIW Reed "died" during that run and the book became Fantastic Three for a number of issues.

 

[Bass]

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It's more that Nathaniel wasn't really around for Reed for most of his life. He just popped in and out, and Frankling and Val want to give him a proper dad.

I actually think Reed might buy it.

Here's why: One; Franklin says to Nathaniel that "no one should be without a father". Two; Hickman, when he came aboard F4, said the big problem with the series is Reed. He steals the show and it's all about him.

I can imagine that Reed dying is what Franklin and Val are trying to stop, and it's a way for Hickman to have the rest of the team shine on their own for a while. Since E pointed out it's been done before, the 'homage' would probably have the element of nostalgia that Marvel can use to soothe fanboys.

I doubt that Thing will leave, though. I think what Val and the foundation are going to do by giving him a week off and working out why he's rocky in appearance, plus his tie-ins to THE AVENGERS, probably means he'll stick around.

 

[E]

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Has no one read #583? Seriously? What is wrong with you people? It's probably Hickman's best issue yet.

Valeria finds Reed's machine, uses it, finds out he royally screwed up...and goes to see Doom (who is suffering from brain damage and creepily says he needs to be "reborn") to make him a deal - he helps Reed fix his screwup, and she would help Doom with the whole brain damage thing.

It was awesome.

And somehow Thing has a huge bulging head that I must've totally forgotten about. I need to re-read the last arc.

 

[Ultimate Houde]

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That was cause of the devolution of the High Evolutionary's city. It happened the first time they went there as well.

I read it and hated how it referenced World War Hulks.

 

[Iceshadow]

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I really liked it too, I had assumed Hickman would quietly ignore the events from World War Hulks, but he did a great job in utilizing the fallout from that series. I also thought it was real interesting how there are now apparently a bunch of Reeds all over the world presumably "solving everything", and I was surprised when Valeria revealed that she thought her dad was wrong in his decision to stay with his family.

 

[Bass]

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Unacceptable.

 

[ProjectX2]

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Doom's brain damage is a result from something that happened in World War Hulks?

I already love Hickman's Doom and I can't wait to see more of his Silver Surfer.

 

[Ultimate Houde]

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Yes, the Inteligencia or whomever they were, was the collection of Hulk villains who orchestrated the whole event. Why Doom is the only guy to completely lose his mind though is odd considering about eight people were in that machine, and they all came out okay.

 

[E]

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Doom's brain damage is a result from something that happened in World War Hulks?

I already love Hickman's Doom and I can't wait to see more of his Silver Surfer.

Yeah, Silver Surfer showing up was cool.

I like the idea of Silver Surfer and Doom playing larger parts in the book and appearing regularly.

 

[Iceshadow]

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Yes, the Inteligencia or whomever they were, was the collection of Hulk villains who orchestrated the whole event. Why Doom is the only guy to completely lose his mind though is odd considering about eight people were in that machine, and they all came out okay.

It's because Doom and Banner broke free first, and Doom tried tried to steal everyone else's brain power but Banner crossed some wires and it backfired on Doom. I'm paraphrasing but that's the gist of what happened.

 

[Bass]

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Unacceptable.

 

[Bass]

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Is no one reading this anymore?

Galactus is back. Nu-world is going to get eaten. Atlantis is at war. The Ben is human. The anti-priest is prepping the second annihilation. And... ohmigosh... Torch wants kids!

Cats and dogs, living together, mass hysteria!

I'm so pumped. I love how much gravitas Hickman gives Galactus, and that little moment; "We have to talk about your son"... yeep. And I love how they've built up the way anyone could die; Thing is human so he's vulnerable, Reed is halfway across the universe alone with Galactus, Sue is at the bottom of the ocean alone embroiled in the war of Atlantis, and Torch... Torch has started talking about how he wants kids. That's a death knell, baby.

Anyhow, while I can imagine any of them going, I think Thing is safe. Reed might go because Hickman said he thinks the F4 shouldn't be about Reed but the family. Sue might go too for the same reason; there's a whole element of families; Nathaniel Richards, the Council of Reeds, the Kids' Future Foundation, future Val and Franklin... I can't see the shape of it, but I can imagine Reed or Sue's death would be a big part of it.

But then I think of Torch. And I wonder, of all of them, isn't Torch the only one who has never died?

I don't know. I know this is an old F4 trick, but it's the first time where I've cared enough about the characters to actually be concerned/excited over who's gonna go and what the shake up will be.

 

[Iceshadow]

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What Bass said.

This series can't come out fast enough!