Earth 13122 Timeline
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He came back to Earth off-screen.
Him joining in Reassembled is likely the actual joining. Seeing Falcon in the Avengers Facility for a few seconds really isn't a big contradiction that prevents them from being the same reality.
There's three characters:
-Mandarin
-Aldrich Killian
-Trevor Slattery
They are three different people, just like in Earth-199999. No contradiction.
Design differences ≠ contradictions, nor does Loki being captive after LMSH.
Sure, but I think that's something you've taken out of it. I think the references were supposed to mean it's the same universe, as that is more internally consistent.
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I don't think this discussion is worthless or ruining the thread, personally.
I'm not trying to provoke anything or anyone, and everyone has their own opinion, but these points below are how I prove that it should be one universe.
In Lego marvel's avengers masters of evil DLC, which is set after age of Ultron level and before Reassembled features Hulk. So he decided to turn the Quinjet around. So you have to assume that Ragnarok doesn't take place as Thor also stays.
I see it as Falcon helped in Winter soldier, then in reassembled he gets 'officially' announced as an avenger rather than just helping them, and most characters throughout all the Lego games/shorts wear different and quite random outfits.
There doesn't seem to be inconsistencies and if there are, then they don't contradict it to be a separate universe
Like I said earlier, most characters seem to change design often. I don't think it effects Loki's storyline to the extent that it effects other events, plus Loki (being the god of mischief) has crazy ways of coming back and doing random things (in both Earth-13122 and Earth-199999).
But it would still make sense if they were from Earth-13122 rather than Earth-TRN1570.
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Clearly you haven't played both the Iron Man 3 level and LMSH1
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I have played both.
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Trevor Slattery (Earth-13122)
5 appearance(s) of Trevor Slattery (Earth-13122) 3 image(s) of Trevor Slattery (Earth-13122)
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Trevor Slattery is a playable character in LEGO Marvel Super Heroes.
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Neither Tony nor Pepper know who he is in the Iron Man 3 levelTrevor Slattery (Earth-13122)
5 appearance(s) of Trevor Slattery (Earth-13122) 3 image(s) of Trevor Slattery (Earth-13122)marvel.fandom.com
After watching a walkthrough of the level, they are aware that he is an actor.
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I have gone through all the points mentioned besides the quote from the article and debunked most of it. I don't think there are any other inconsistencies other than these or others covered in this thread.
(Based of my timeline):
- Loki was locked up in the Raft instead of Asgard: Loki was sent to Asgard after the events of the avengers (First film) story, then, the year after, Lego marvel superheroes takes place so Loki escapes, the story plays out and after making it back to earth, is sent to the raft
- Coulson is implied to have actually died and then resurrected by both this and LMSH2 ("Sometimes I wish I had regeneration"): This is most likely referring to agents of shield in which he is resurrected in both MCU and LMSH/LMA
- Aldrich Killian also has two conflicting death scenes, and the LMA one is unlikely to take place after the LMSH one, since the LMA level is where he makes himself known to the world: This one I will admit is difficult as the iron man 3 level takes place before LMSH so I can only assume he didn't die
- Nick Fury also implies that Galactus' attack was the heroes' most recent adventure prior to the Guardians' arrival, so events of Age of Ultron are unlikely to have happened in the interim: This was retconned if im not mistaken and that there is a gap between the LMSH and LMSH2 in which LMA:AoU occurs
- LMSH and LMA versions of Malekith don't seem to be compatible either: Bro-Tunheim mission takes place before Thor the dark world mission and therefore other than an outfit change, it fits nicely without contradiction
- Howard the Duck wonders in LMSH2 if the first two games are "strictly canon", suggesting the developers didn't intend them to be so: This I cant argue but Howard the duck does used jokes and sort of 4th wall breaks to reference things, but then again he isn't 100% sure and is only assuming
- LMSH shows the real Mandarin, but in Maximum Overload Trevor Slattery impersonates him: That makes sense either way. It could be the real mandarin in LMSH but then Trevor takes his title and appearance and does his thing in Maximum overload or it is always Trevor but only made clear in Maximum overload
- Reassembled makes no mention of Ultron's supposed death: As a prominent character in Lego media that technically could have survived (and has done in other universes) it is safe to assume that he was never fully defeated
- Time Twisted depicts his defeat differently from LMA: That is just how the people making time twisted didn't think about copying the exact defeat of Ultron, they most likely did it for the sake of the show (and it is an alternate universe branching of off E-13122 so it could easily change his defeat slightly
- In Mission Demolition Galactus is a vacuum all of a sudden when he was a living being in the games: As far as I remember, it doesn't say it is Galactus, rather it it belongs to him and has his name on it. I think they say the F4 find it and take it back, which explains their absence from the games/shows, and I don't think they could bring Galactus back that easily as a vacuum
- Time Twisted, for example, treats Iron Man 1, The First Avenger and Age of Ultron as canon, while the earlier Maximum Overload contradicts all other works by portraying Slattery as the real Mandarin: Like I said before, it could have always been slattery in disguise
"I understand where you are coming from, but at the end of the day the stance that LEGO Marvel's Avengers is separate from LEGO Marvel Super Heroes and its sequel is something spoken in official capacity by one of the devs. It's not really a matter of opinion, it's a fact." - well that's the answer I got. As much as I disagree with the separation, its not possible to change their minds unless an official statement proves the separation wrong.
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I personally don't understand how it can't be canon when the events of the movies it adapts ARE canon, the game references the previous, and the follow-up to the original has callbacks to said game.
Like, ah yes. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 is canon to Earth-13122 but the rest of the MCU LEGO missions aren't. See? It's ridiculous.
I think we need to do a proper timestamp/mission breakdown of this universe anyway. Also, Iron Man 3 should probably be in 2013 now since it's been moved in Earth-199999. Stands to reason the same applies here, which might be more suit-accurate for Tony anyway.
Like, ah yes. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 is canon to Earth-13122 but the rest of the MCU LEGO missions aren't. See? It's ridiculous.
I think we need to do a proper timestamp/mission breakdown of this universe anyway. Also, Iron Man 3 should probably be in 2013 now since it's been moved in Earth-199999. Stands to reason the same applies here, which might be more suit-accurate for Tony anyway.
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Y'know what? I might start one. Why not? I can use the MCU timeline's dates. I'll link back here for the chronological order help. I've been meaning to play LEGO Marvel Super Heroes again for like a decade anyway.
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Same here.
