selfishmisery
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Pretty irrelevant discussion, but...
We never really got an explanation of the Jerome clone from Gotham S2. Now that Jeremiah became the Joker, sorta leaves you wondering what happened to this fella.
Well, in any case, Jerome, Jerome (Clone) and Jeremiah is a total of three, and I'm sure you're all aware of the three Jokers retcon and comic book.
Jeremiah Valeska - The Criminal
Jerome Valeska - The Clown
Jerome Valeska (Clone) - The Comedian
Just a thought. Coincidently, the Clown version of the character dies in the comic.
Still want to see a Gotham S6 comic book, but like Gotham Central where it focuses on the GCPD in a world with Batman. We got a Smallville sequel, we got a Batman 89 sequel, we got a Superman 78 sequel, so why can't we get a Gotham comic book?
Or, hot take, Gotham is Arrowverse canon.
My connections/continuity corrections based on vague info:
*No Man's Land inadvertently destroyed many records of Gotham criminals; giving many of them more mystery to their origins and a "clean slate".
*Jerome clone became Jack Napier, Jeremiah Valeska is dead by late-2002/early-2003.
*Pamela "Ivy" Pepper (maiden name via mum is "Isley"; the surname "Pepper" came from the Mario Pepper asshole her mother married) changed her name from Ivy Pepper to Pamela Isley. The whole thing about her getting powers at Gotham University was horse hockey and she used Marc LeGrand as her scapegoat to cover up her past.
*Renee Montoya is late-50s and despite earning a job as a police detective, she still had to study to become a police officer (DIFFERENT requirements) in the 2000s.
*Lee Thompkins dies in 2002 (killed?). Jim Gordon quits as commissioner briefly, his old boss Loeb takes over (via the "Commissioner Loeb" line in the season 1 finale of Batwoman), but Jimbo changes his mind and gets his job back after Loeb dies. He marries Barbara and in 2003 JJ Gordon is born. JJ leaving body parts in Barbara's loft and getting admitted makes Jim Gordon divorce Barbara and quit as commissioner for good; replaced by Forbes.
*The Mario Falcone in Batwoman 3x12 is the son of Sofia Falcone, named after her brother whom she really cared about in Gotham.
*Mouse aka John Cartwright is a clone of Jane Cartwright due to her brother August finding about his sister's death and having someone like Hugo Strange(?) clone her into his 'son'. (Why else would August shelter Mouse from the world like he did? The show never answered that, but that's my reasoning.)
*Batwoman's Magpie is the adopted sister of Reagan (Tommy Elliot's bartender and Kate's ex) since her mother (who the daughter inherited the OCD shiny obsession from) was killed by Penguin in 1991.
*Arrow's Cyrus Gold is Sonny Gilzean, Athena of the Thanatos Guild is Gotham's Nyssa al Ghul, there was a copycat Executioner in 2019, Pyg survived getting shot in the head because of metal plates.
Convoluted? You know it, but most things in the Arrowverse get that convoluted if not more.
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