DC's Non-DCAU Animated Timelines

[selfishmisery]

Nice work, I too consider Teen Titans a sequel to The Batman. I also count Legion Of Superheroes if that's something you think could work.

Here are the dates I was able to find in "The Batman".

"Ragdolls To Riches" features an on-screen date. "7.7.2". I used this check date to build this entire timeline as it's the only year shown in the "present day" episodes.

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There is also a visible Calendar in the season 3 episode "A Fistful Of Felt".

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Then in Season Five there's this newspaper date in "Attack Of The Terrible Trio".

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Lastly, in the season four episode "Artifacts" we have this on-screen date.

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Those are all of the dates I was able to find in "The Batman".

Doesn't Clark in LoSH season 2 allude to Batman's apprehension to join a team, which Bruce had at the start of Season 4?

So that would put Legion of SuperHeroes s2 around 2005/2006 in Clark's present years.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Doesn't Clark in LoSH season 2 allude to Batman's apprehension to join a team, which Bruce had at the start of Season 4?

So that would put Legion of SuperHeroes s2 around 2005/2006 in Clark's present years.

Here are the notes I originally took on this topic:

Superman tells his clone "...you remind me more of a friend of mine. Strong-willed, bit of a loner. And when the time came for him to be part of a team, he resisted. And while he never liked it, he'll tell you he did far more good as a member of that group than he ever could alone. It just took learning how to compromise."

Such a description fits Superman's Justice League teammate Batman and could possibly refer to the events depicted in "The Batman" episode 4.13: "The Joining, Part 2".

However, due to Superman's younger appearance in this series, "the friend" he's referring to likely is someone the audience hasn't seen. The description could fit many heroes in the DC Universe that Superman has worked with over the years. In this specific universe, it could refer to Green Arrow, Martian Manhunter or may even be a reference to one of the many Legion heroes he's worked with in Season One, like Timber Wolf.

Here are their design differences. I feel that Legion should have gone with Tim Daly or George Newbern for season Two to convey he's more mature.



The Batman design:

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Oh another note from a season two episode:

Superman only recently built The Fortress Of Solitude in his time. "The Fortress is a thousand years old to you. But I remember building it six months ago. I barely had time to stock the fridge." This indicates Superman is still young, and isn't the more seasoned Man Of Steel seen in "The Batman".

 

[selfishmisery]

Oh another note from a season two episode:

Superman only recently built The Fortress Of Solitude in his time. "The Fortress is a thousand years old to you. But I remember building it six months ago. I barely had time to stock the fridge." This indicates Superman is still young, and isn't the more seasoned Man Of Steel seen in "The Batman".

So the person he alluded to about being "a loner" either wasn't Batman or we can chalk up to design/voice discrepences a la DCAU Penguin going from mutant to refined gentlemen.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

So the person he alluded to about being "a loner" either wasn't Batman or we can chalk up to design/voice discrepences a la DCAU Penguin going from mutant to refined gentlemen.

Yep, there really is no right or wrong answer. I chose to go with it NOT being Batman because I feel Superman is portrayed as being in his late 20s/early 30s by the time of "The Batman". Legion Superman never seems to age past his late teens/early twenties. The voice is the primary reason I say this.

 

[barryh]

Here are the notes I originally took on this topic:

Superman tells his clone "...you remind me more of a friend of mine. Strong-willed, bit of a loner. And when the time came for him to be part of a team, he resisted. And while he never liked it, he'll tell you he did far more good as a member of that group than he ever could alone. It just took learning how to compromise."

Such a description fits Superman's Justice League teammate Batman and could possibly refer to the events depicted in "The Batman" episode 4.13: "The Joining, Part 2".

In S5 of The Batman, it's Superman who's the loner and Batman's the team player.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

In S5 of The Batman, it's Superman who's the loner and Batman's the team player.

Right, but in the season 4 finale, Bruce doesn't want to join the League.

 

[barryh]

He joins immediately when invited in the S4 finale ("You've put together quite a league. Let's get to work.") In S5, a year later, Superman comes to ask Bruce to "Tell me about this "justice team" of yours".

 

[Pro Bot]

To be honest, I don't really agree with The Batman and Teen Titans being connected to each other, since there's no in-universe evidence for it. Just fan theories and similar designs. It's not my timeline though so do as you wish. They do work well together.

 

[selfishmisery]

To be honest, I don't really agree with The Batman and Teen Titans being connected to each other, since there's no in-universe evidence for it. Just fan theories and similar designs. It's not my timeline though so do as you wish. They do work well together.

I will separate them after 1.) you admit Lois & Clark isn't connected to the Burtonverse and 2.) You separate those.
It's only fair.

 

[Pro Bot]

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I will separate them after 1.) you admit Lois & Clark isn't connected to the Burtonverse and 2.) You separate those.
It's only fair.

Well, if The Batman's batmobile appeared in Teen Titans alongside the main theme from that series, I would agree that The Batman and Teen Titans are connected. It does not, though. They don't even share voice actors and the costumes are completely different.

Honestly, I don't see how it's any different to Human Target being connected to Superman (1978) in your eyes, and you advocated for that. Lois & Clark has the same Batmobile (alongside the Danny Elfman theme) and references Gotham and Batman serveral times concurrent to the then-ongoing Batman film series. That's a bit different than a single comic using the most basic Batman design and using it as absolute proof of a shared universe. Heck, using that logic, the same comic tie-ins used far more explicit designs of the DCAU's Justice League.

Again, I'm not telling you what to do. I included Batman: Caped Crusader on an Earth-Prime/Earth-F timeline for God's sake. If the evidence is good enough for you, go ahead.

 

[selfishmisery]

Well, if The Batman's batmobile appeared in Teen Titans alongside the main theme from that series, I would agree that The Batman and Teen Titans are connected. It does not, though. They don't even share voice actors and the costumes are completely different.

Honestly, I don't see how it's any different to Human Target being connected to Superman (1978) in your eyes, and you advocated for that. Lois & Clark has the same Batmobile (alongside the Danny Elfman theme) and references Gotham and Batman serveral times concurrent to the then-ongoing Batman film series. That's a bit different than a single comic using the most basic Batman design and using it as absolute proof of a shared universe. Heck, using that logic, the same comic tie-ins used far more explicit designs of the DCAU's Justice League.

Again, I'm not telling you what to do. I included Batman: Caped Crusader on an Earth-Prime/Earth-F timeline for God's sake. If the evidence is good enough for you, go ahead.

I mean no offense, I have a jovial way of wording myself.
I've been confused for trolling at times, but you do you. I won't legit force ya to do anything.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

He joins immediately when invited in the S4 finale ("You've put together quite a league. Let's get to work.") In S5, a year later, Superman comes to ask Bruce to "Tell me about this "justice team" of yours".

Yes I remember. In Legion, it's never actually stated that he's talking about Batman or the Justice League.

 

[selfishmisery]

Here is why I think the animated Crisis on Infinite Earths does spell the end & rebirth of the animated multiverse and not some variant multiverse.



1.) In Crisis part 3, Razer has the Blue Lantern outfit that was teased in GL:TAS. No other half that is Red Lantern; thus making Young Justice a POST-Crisis Earth-16. (More on that in a sec.)

2.) Him finding Aya offscreen after her cameo in JL: Action implies it is a pre-Crisis Earth-16, with GL:TAS along with E16 "canon-adjacent" works like Catwoman: Hunted & the Green Arrow animated short. The only reason they pop up on Earth-18 is because all the Earths were in the same Bleed space pocket dimension in part 3.

3.) JL:Action likely got shifted out of Earth-16 to another Earth (Earth-15?) while the Green Lantern cartoon and other Earth-16 adjacent stories remained but were altered as we see them in YJ canon.

4.) If the multiverse was a "cancer", aka too big to maintain its existence, then we don't have anywhere near 2112 or 5501 Earths with miniscule Hypertime differences. The "My Adventures With Superman" cartoon suggested there are upwards between 52 to 508 Earths, not counting the unaffected Earth-Prime (the original Flashpoint only affected it from a barren wasteland to back to its thriving workd seen in the old Superman animated shorts.)

5.) All that said, the events of how Razer and Aya will reunite will be different than how it was pre-Crisis. The YJ set-up for that was the events perserved in the E16 timeline with alterations like Metron's involvement.