DC's Earth-66 - Timeline

Megatron said:
So I would agree to only the Dark Horse Comics, as I don't know if the Dynamite Comics can be canon, I never read a single issue of them.


Tho it still misses the Rogue Agent (GoldenEye) game, and one of the Fates Novels.
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Doesn't Goldeneye: Rogue Agent revive serveral dead characters, notably Goldfinger and Dr. No? 007: Racing too. I mean, I'll include them if you guys want I guess, but y'know. Not perfect continuity between them and the films.
 
Pro Bot said:
Doesn't Goldeneye: Rogue Agent revive serveral dead characters, notably Goldfinger and Dr. No? 007: Racing too. I mean, I'll include them if you guys want I guess, but y'know. Not perfect continuity between them and the films.
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if they have a reason for being alive, why not? If not could it be set before Dr. No?
 
Megatron said:
if they have a reason for being alive, why not? If not could it be set before Dr. No?
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Judi Dench's M is in it, and she started in 1996. Also, the first mission is a training simulation version of the events of Goldfinger (1964) where Bond gets crushed to death, lol. It's definitely in the present day setting around Pierce Brosnan's films, but Blofield, No, Goldfinger, and a few others just happen to be alive again. Heck, the main character lost his eye in an encounter with Dr. No three years prior, so at least Dr. No would have had to have been resurrected by that point if we're going to fit this in.
 
Pro Bot said:
I guess 007: Racing can be set before the GoldenEye film.
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007: Racing features John Cleese as R whom Bond first meets in The World Is Not Enough. I don't think it fits the timeline.

James Bond 007: The Duel also features the likes of Oddjob etc.
 
barryh said:
007: Racing features John Cleese as R whom Bond first meets in The World Is Not Enough. I don't think it fits the timeline.
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I could probably excuse that... we'll see.

barryh said:
James Bond 007: The Duel also features the likes of Oddjob etc.
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Oddjob

Oddjob can refer to: Oddjob (Literary), an antagonist of Ian Fleming's Goldfinger (1959). Oddjob (Dynamite), a reimagining of the character for Dynamite Entertainment's comics. "New Oddjob", the nickname of South Korean agent John Lee in Dynamite's comic books. Oddjob (Harold Sakata), an...
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Apparently that's a clone. Huh, maybe they're all clones in Rogue Agent? :p
 
Watching On Her Majesty's Secret Service, and because there's archive audio when he goes through his desk and picks up the items from the Sean Connery films, it just convinces me that he's one guy more. He's not just going through another guy's desk, he remembers each film. There's implied history with Monnypenny too. It kinda feels like "that other fella" line was, yes, a reference to Connery out-of-universe of course, but in-universe, reads like a Cinderella joke. There's a very easy justification for it because of that.
 
Pro Bot said:
Watching On Her Majesty's Secret Service, and because there's archive audio when he goes through his desk and picks up the items from the Sean Connery films, it just convinces me that he's one guy more. He's not just going through another guy's desk, he remembers each film. There's implied history with Monnypenny too. It kinda feels like "that other fella" line was, yes, a reference to Connery out-of-universe of course, but in-universe, reads like a Cinderella joke. There's a very easy justification for it because of that.
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tbf he winks at the camera and smiles when he said that line. More 4th wall jokes than this, are only the ones the mask or deadpool could pull off.
 
Oh, it's absolutely a joke for the audience too. He does the same thing in The Return of the Man from U.N.C.L.E., which is interesting because whenever Bond has that face he is able to break the fourth wall.
 
Man, can I just say, James Bond is kinda a dick? I don't agree with Alan Moore making him a straight up villain, he is definitely a hero, but Moore still had somewhat of a point.

In You Only Live Twice, he's with a girl, then he sleeps with a different girl, then he gets back with the first girl and lies about it, then that first girl dies (he doesn't even seem to care!), 2-3 days later he's marrying another girl as part of his duty and gets romantic with her! In the same film, he says he might retire to Japan because someone told him that "in Japan, men always come before women". Uh... sexist?

In On Her Majesty's Secret Service, a much better film in all honesty, Tracy's father tries to bribe Bond to be with his daughter, telling him that she needs someone to "dominate her" (this is clearly misogynistic btw, not bedroom talk). Bond doesn't agree at first until he tells him that he'll reveal where Blofield is. This lasts a day until Tracy forces her father to tell Bond what he needs to know before leaving to cry. Bond comforts her and gets into a relationship (for love).

Later, Bond is back as 007 and sleeps with a woman who isn't Tracy as part of his job, and when she reappears, he doesn't tell her this and instead proposes marriage to her... so, cheating? Tracy's father at the wedding, of course, tells her to obey her husband in all things, which she agrees with as she has obeyed her father in the past. At least Bond does seem to genuinely love Tracy, but it's still weird. I prefer when he sings about mango trees instead.

The Avengers is much more progressive with its depiction of women. Cathy Gale kicks ass, throws more punches than Batgirl or Catwoman did in the 1966 show honestly. She isn't a love interest either, she's Steed's partner. Tracy from OHMSS is actually Emma Peel's actress which is really cool.
 
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